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Just how good is Larry Warford? PFF chimes in...

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Posted: 7/24/2014 11:47 AM

Just how good is Larry Warford? PFF chimes in... 


PFF Story here

Essentially, they have never rated a rookie OG higher than they did last year :)  Kid is a STUD.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 11:49 AM

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Of course the rookie guard from the NFC North that made the Pro Bowl was Kyle Long...
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Posted: 7/24/2014 12:03 PM

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Warford was my favorite draft pick from last year and lived up to every bit of hype that came with him. The offensive line and running game were noticeably better and a lot of that can be attributed to Warford. 

 I remember offensive line was the biggest question coming into last year and ended up being a huge strength. The fact that the O-line hasn't really even been discussed this offseason is a testament to how well it performed.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 12:44 PM

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Yoooop!

Stud.
"He was the backup last year. He was a backup the year before that.He's been a back up his whole career. I don't think anybody would be surprised if I thought he was a backup".

Martin Mayhew on Dan Orlovsky. Detroit Free Press, 2.21.09
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Posted: 7/24/2014 1:00 PM

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He was also named in ESPN's 25 under 25 list
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Posted: 7/24/2014 1:16 PM

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My feeling is that Long was riding his fathers coat tails and Warford plays for the Lions. Had Warford played for the Bears and Long played for the Lions, neither would have been named to the Pro Bowl. I think Warford deserved the Pro Bowl nod over Long who struggled early and Warford had been pretty much rock solid from day 1. Just my opinion tho
SportyCliche wrote: Of course the rookie guard from the NFC North that made the Pro Bowl was Kyle Long...

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Posted: 7/24/2014 1:42 PM

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Great example that you can get a stud on your interior OL in the mid rounds of the draft and not have to gamble on an early pick.

 

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Posted: 7/24/2014 2:02 PM

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Great example of just how LUCKY we were. I mean the guy stoned all those SEC first round DT's, on a suspect OL except for him, and doesn't get picked until the 3rd round? I was so pissed when we didn't take him in the 2nd, which was only made worse because I didn't care for the Slay pick. Big Larry is the man, and why teams looking for an OG passed him up was incredible.
Me4LionsPresident wrote: Great example that you can get a stud on your interior OL in the mid rounds of the draft and not have to gamble on an early pick.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 4:17 PM

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Lying fan,

I'm with you, I was pissed when we passed on him for Slay. I was floored when we still got him.

I think the Warford pick was the closest thing we have ever seen on this board to 100% happy about it. So it's fun to see we were all right about him.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 4:27 PM

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Yep, I had Ansah in the first and Big Larry in the 2nd. I had Frederick in the 3rd and was shocked that Dallas jumped up in the first to take him, though it was an immediate need for them. Peterman was a turnstyle, one of the lowest rated OG's in the game, which made the OG need that much more desperate. I think last year most people were on the Ansah pick too, talent and need merged which was what I thought about grabbing Larry in the 2nd as well. It was like GREAT, the BPA matches our need, no way we can pass...and we passed.
wesleysh21 wrote: Lying fan,

I'm with you, I was pissed when we passed on him for Slay. I was floored when we still got him.

I think the Warford pick was the closest thing we have ever seen on this board to 100% happy about it. So it's fun to see we were all right about him.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:28 PM

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Lying fan,

I'm with you, I was pissed when we passed on him for Slay. I was floored when we still got him.

I think the Warford pick was the closest thing we have ever seen on this board to 100% happy about it. So it's fun to see we were all right about him.

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I think everybody was pretty pleased with Calvin ;)

But I agree with your point, I don't remember anybody complaining and if they did they shut up pretty quick! Can't wait to watch him own all season long!
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:33 PM

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Kyle Long only went to the Pro Bowl due to injury of Mike Iupati....but yeah, Warford should have went instead.

I had Warford mocked to us in the second round and couldn't believe he was still available to us in the 3rd, great job by Mayhew drafting him.  Hopefully he be a staple on our O-line for the next 10 years!

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Posted: 7/24/2014 8:01 PM

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Lying fan,

I'm with you, I was pissed when we passed on him for Slay. I was floored when we still got him.

I think the Warford pick was the closest thing we have ever seen on this board to 100% happy about it. So it's fun to see we were all right about him.

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I think everybody was pretty pleased with Calvin ;)

But I agree with your point, I don't remember anybody complaining and if they did they shut up pretty quick! Can't wait to watch him own all season long!

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I think this is a joke, but if not, my memory says many many here did NOT want megatron (including myself. Trade down a few spots, take P Willis). Glad that choice was right.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:20 PM

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You would think GMs would have caught up by now but they STILL continue to vastly undervalue interior linemen.
HYATT™ believes Centers are more important than LTs and should be paid commensurate with their responsibilities.
Look around the league.
How many multiple All-Pro Centers are there, compared to All-Pro LTs? (HINT: 4 Centers, Mack, Kalil, Pouncey, & THOR, in NJ. & Pouncey is questionable, since he isn't always healthy).
After seeing what guys like Steve Hutchinson and a few other All-Pro OGs do for an offense, it escapes logic how any GM can undervalue elite Guards as well.
HYATT™

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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:30 PM

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HYATT wrote: You would think GMs would have caught up by now but they STILL continue to vastly undervalue interior linemen.
HYATT™ believes Centers are more important than LTs and should be paid commensurate with their responsibilities.
Look around the league.
How many multiple All-Pro Centers are there, compared to All-Pro LTs? (HINT: 4 Centers, Mack, Kalil, Pouncey, & THOR, in NJ. & Pouncey is questionable, since he isn't always healthy).
After seeing what guys like Steve Hutchinson and a few other All-Pro OGs do for an offense, it escapes logic how any GM can undervalue elite Guards as well.
I thought big larry was gonna go to the cowboys or bears was also disappointed when we didnt take him rnd 2..Im with hyatt interior oline vastly underrated.It was easy to notice what a good guard did for us been wanting one for years..

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Posted: 7/24/2014 10:43 PM

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fury91 wrote:


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Lying fan,

I'm with you, I was pissed when we passed on him for Slay. I was floored when we still got him.

I think the Warford pick was the closest thing we have ever seen on this board to 100% happy about it. So it's fun to see we were all right about him.

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I think everybody was pretty pleased with Calvin ;)

But I agree with your point, I don't remember anybody complaining and if they did they shut up pretty quick! Can't wait to watch him own all season long!

Fury,

I'm about to sound like a huge dork, but I actually write this stuff down in my notebook.  I also buy a draft mag (late edition) to kind of "capture in time" the feelings going into the draft.  What I've found is people feel one way leading up to a draft, then start to revise history after the draft.  Calvin was no slam dunk going into the draft.  In fact, I proudly say I was against him.  I was in the "trade down for Patrick Willis" crowd.  For those staying put, there was a small group wanting Adrian Peterson (they had given up on Kevin Jones) and a very large group that wanted Joe Thomas.  I can still remember the debates of Joe Thomas vs Jeff Backus, and why would we take another technician instead of a dominant run blocker?

Here is why writing stuff down changes perspective that may never be re-captured otherwise...there was a group of us that wanted a double trade down scenario where we stockpiled picks and took David Harris in the 1st round.  Needless to say, when we took Drew Stanton in the 2nd round OVER David Harris...we were floored.

Larry Warford was different, he had a rare combination of elements that all came together at the same time.  He played a position that everyone agreed we needed to go get.  Some wanted it so bad they would go get Warmack or Cooper.  Many of the Warmack/Cooper crowd was on board with Warford in the 2nd as a consolation prize.  It seemed like there were a few that wanted Warford in the 3rd and not the 2nd.  But overall, by the time the 3rd round came around, almost everyone had chimed in as liking the idea prior to the draft.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:18 AM

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wesleysh21 wrote:
fury91 wrote:


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--- wesleysh21 wrote:

Lying fan,

I'm with you, I was pissed when we passed on him for Slay. I was floored when we still got him.

I think the Warford pick was the closest thing we have ever seen on this board to 100% happy about it. So it's fun to see we were all right about him.

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I think everybody was pretty pleased with Calvin ;)

But I agree with your point, I don't remember anybody complaining and if they did they shut up pretty quick! Can't wait to watch him own all season long!

Fury,

I'm about to sound like a huge dork, but I actually write this stuff down in my notebook.  I also buy a draft mag (late edition) to kind of "capture in time" the feelings going into the draft.  What I've found is people feel one way leading up to a draft, then start to revise history after the draft.  Calvin was no slam dunk going into the draft.  In fact, I proudly say I was against him.  I was in the "trade down for Patrick Willis" crowd.  For those staying put, there was a small group wanting Adrian Peterson (they had given up on Kevin Jones) and a very large group that wanted Joe Thomas.  I can still remember the debates of Joe Thomas vs Jeff Backus, and why would we take another technician instead of a dominant run blocker?

Here is why writing stuff down changes perspective that may never be re-captured otherwise...there was a group of us that wanted a double trade down scenario where we stockpiled picks and took David Harris in the 1st round.  Needless to say, when we took Drew Stanton in the 2nd round OVER David Harris...we were floored.

Larry Warford was different, he had a rare combination of elements that all came together at the same time.  He played a position that everyone agreed we needed to go get.  Some wanted it so bad they would go get Warmack or Cooper.  Many of the Warmack/Cooper crowd was on board with Warford in the 2nd as a consolation prize.  It seemed like there were a few that wanted Warford in the 3rd and not the 2nd.  But overall, by the time the 3rd round came around, almost everyone had chimed in as liking the idea prior to the draft.
crazy, all 4 of those guys will be HoFs one day... couldn't have gone wrong with any scenario there, lol well good thing the Raiders took JR! HAHAHA, after that point even Millen couldn't screw it up.

 

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Posted: 7/25/2014 7:24 AM

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A slight to the Lions? Unheard f!
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Of course the rookie guard from the NFC North that made the Pro Bowl was Kyle Long...

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In the last century, governments killed 260 million of their own citizens. Logical conclusion: Ban governments.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 8:34 AM

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Yeah, you guys are right. I forgot about all the debate over that pick. Definitely happy that OAK took Jamarcus, once he was gone it was hard for the Lions to mess up with a CJ, AD, Thomas, and Willis left.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 9:40 AM

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fury91 wrote: Yeah, you guys are right. I forgot about all the debate over that pick. Definitely happy that OAK took Jamarcus, once he was gone it was hard for the Lions to mess up with a CJ, AD, Thomas, and Willis left.
You can give yourself nightmares thinking about what might have happened if the Raiders had taken CJ #1. Even with 3 other all time greats sitting right there I couldn't see Millen passing up on Jabba.

"Him got big arm! Throw lots touchdown! Yay touchdown! I are so smart."
One of these days, I'm gonna change my evil ways, one of these days. Until then, I'll just keep riding on.
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