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How many of you have rather high expectations of this season?

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Posted: 7/2/2014 11:02 AM

How many of you have rather high expectations of this season? 


I'm nervous about saying "we will have double digit wins"  " ten at least".....I just don't know!

It's going to take a lot to think that the 'team' is going to pick up on the new system and design of play without glitches.

I can easily see us struggling to get each player on the same page of what they-player A, player B, player C are supposed to be doing NOW opposed to what we 'were' doing in 2013 and in the past....

CAN we "get it" right off the bat as a whole, as a team??  sure.

yet I doubt that will happen, I figure that in the middle of the season we have a much better shot of the guys thinking "oh yeah.....I got it."  or saying with confidence that most of our players "get it" and are playing well.

typical season as far as rookies and new players on a new team, new HC and staff -because that happens every year if your a rook, but even our vets or second year guys are trying to learn a new and different style under a

new HC and staff themselves.  so I feel this season 'could' be a bit rough as far as total win/Loss.

Lombardi and Caldwell could be very good at conveying what they want done, and -in turn, make it quite easy for the players to pick up- that's my hope.....but I'm guardedly optimistic about 10-11 wins in 2014.  noidea
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Posted: 7/2/2014 11:40 AM

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I have high expectations, IMHO this team has the capability of outscoring just about anybody. Defense ain't that bad either, no reason why they shouldn't compete for the division. 10-11 wins is doable, but in the first year of a new coaching regime, it's kinda hard to know how the new style of play will work out. It's reasonable to expect some mistakes early on that get fixed as the season progresses. But will they get on a roll or collapse again? No way to tell. Me, I'm just a hopeless slappie, put me down for 10-6.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 11:58 AM

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i have low expectations.  i am not a stafford believer, nor am i a fan of how this team is constructed.  i think this team is built around the edges rather than up the middle on offense, and exactly the opposite on defense.  neither is conducive to long term success.  7-9
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Posted: 7/2/2014 12:04 PM

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This team underachieved its expected W-L record the last 2 seasons (and for 4 out of the 5 seasons with Schwartz as head coach). Is that on the coaching staff? Is is the players?

I think we have a talented team, the only major question to me is the secondary but that isn't make or break for me because I think we have a good front 7.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 12:27 PM

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I expect us to be a better football team.  I expect us to play more controlled, smarter football.  I expect us to struggle at first and expect things to click about 1/3 into the season.  I expect players to develop under these coaches.  I don't know that all of this will translate into more wins because of the new systems being put in place. 

I do expect to go .500 in the division.

So it seems I say 9-7 and in the mix every year and we fall a little short.  So I will say 9-7 this year and be in the mix.  Eventually it has to hit, right?
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Posted: 7/2/2014 12:42 PM

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I expect us to win the NFC North Division title...
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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:08 PM

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BigWillieStyle wrote: I expect us to win the NFC North Division title...
good luck with that.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:03 PM

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Exactly

I had playoff expectations the last two seasons and we got 4 wins in 2012 and choked away a gift wrapped Division Title last year and missed the playoffs completely.

I have my Home Playoff Game Tickets framed in my office just to remind me of what a bunch of chokers they were last season.

Every time I find myself starting to maybe, kinda get my hopes up I look at those framed tickets and hit "Reset"


SportyCliche wrote: This team underachieved its expected W-L record the last 2 seasons (and for 4 out of the 5 seasons with Schwartz as head coach). Is that on the coaching staff? Is is the players?

I think we have a talented team, the only major question to me is the secondary but that isn't make or break for me because I think we have a good front 7.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:14 PM

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My expectations are mediocre.

There were too many changes this off season and that will cost this team wins.

We have inexperienced coordinators and that will cost this team wins.

We lack depth at key positions - DB, WR, LBer, DE and OL. So if we suffer injuries it could get real ugly.

My guess is the team will show flashes early on, win some games but as injures mount and mistakes happen the team will falter.

My expectation is 8-8 or 7-9. If we stay relatively healthy and Stafford plays well I think 9-7 or even 10-6 could be possible. Most likely injuries will mount and Stafford is streaky thus the team finishes below 500. I just hope we don't have significant injuries and a total meltdown to 2-4 wins. Which I think is plausible.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:32 PM

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Pass the Kool-Aid. I'm in. This offense is going from putting everything offensively on Stafford, to a freaking FB heavy offense that will be able to run the ball from the I-formation and much more sure handed targets, as well as bringing in guys that will focus on making Stafford better. On defense, everything relied on the front four. Change there as well. Now we are not going to be predictable and we are going to blitz from everywhere. Lastly we've got a HC who will bring a calming affect and one who is focusing on limiting mistakes. I think it's a perfect storm for us and we have enough talent to win. What we were lacking IMHO was the staff putting our talent in the best position to capitalize on the talent. This staff will.

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Posted: 7/2/2014 3:31 PM

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Over the years you learn to temper expectation just a bit. That being said I do believe the Lions got substantially better this off-season. The same can be said for every other team in our division however.

Last year,I figured .500. This year I'm thinking roughly the same thing. 8 wins, or 9 wins max. Anything above that will be a pleasant surprise.



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Posted: 7/2/2014 4:27 PM

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I am not worried about our coordinators lacking experience. Mike Martz was never a coordinator and he turned out the #1 offense and won a Super Bowl with a team that nobody saw coming, that had a combined 9 wins the previous 2 seasons and a QB who wasn't supposed to start & wasn't too far removed from bagging groceries. Lovie Smith had never been a coordinator either with this same franchise, who was the worst defense thye prior season and they turned into the #3 defense and lost in the Super Bowl. Mike Tomlin had never been a coordinator and he only did one season, got the HC job in Pittsburgh and shortly after won a Super Bowl and then went to another one and lost. Experience is insignificant. You have to put your talent in the right position to succeed. Martz did that with the Rams, Lovie & Tomlin did that with the defenses that they coordinated for the first time. The Lions, as almost everyone agrees, have the talent in place. If they are properly utilized we can do a quick turnaround.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 4:49 PM

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super high for me.  this offense really has no excuse to be all world anymore except for stafford.  IF it gets clicking i see as many as 12 wins, enough to compensate for any deficiencies on D.  the pieces are there.  just do it.

defensively speaking, we're not going to be predictable anymore which is a BIG deal.  we're better right now with ihedigbo starting over delmas and by adding van noy (yeah van noy hasn't played a down of nfl football yet but i'll stand by that).  we're lacking depth at DE but if taylor steps up it might be for the best.  even if DBs don't step it up this year, our D will still be more serviceable than last year and we did some good things last year.   van noy and digs hopefully bottle up those long backbreaking plays.  IF the dbs step up.. be prepared to be pleasantly surprised.

DRAFT / FA / COACHING : i thought last years FA and draft *felt* right.  it turned out that way.  i *feel* the same way about this years.   all the key new coaches have rings.  the coaches that needed to be retained were.  the ones needing to get booted are gone.  i like the mix.

very positive for this year.  to me the season is on stafford offensively this year.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 5:11 PM

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This team is close. Unfortunately, I do not believe that we can win a playoff game ( let alone a championship) with Stafford as our QB. He doesn't have the mental toughness to make a playoff run. When the pressure increases Stafford folds like a tent. He is basically a worse version of Romo IMO. We do have talent, but Stafford cannot mask some of the holes that we have.

I have us at 9-5 heading into Chi/GB, we finish at 9-7, with Rodgers putting the nail into the coffin in week 17.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 5:48 PM

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doesn't have the mental toughness!? really!?...this kid has got kicked in the balls by his fan base. he'll be an old age of 26 this year.
what do think he's been thinking and going through these past 5 years...having ONLY Calvin Johnson to rely Super Heavily upon and no Running game at all - ZERO, until 2013?

Having to listen to idiots trying to tell him what to do and call the plays, having a team full of holes or at the VERY least was incomplete.

Having to watch and listen to the Sports world and his fans say he isn't "good enough" OR "he doesn't BELONG in the same conversation as Brees, as Manning, as Rogers, Cutler-or the rest of the QB's?

what about playing on a team that went -0-16...and had 1, O.N.E. playoff showing in 20 years?

what about all the talking heads picking apart his footwork, his mechanic's, his accuracy, his decision making?

you THINK he doesn't hear these things!? but even with the media pressure and everything else at 25/26 years old, Stafford has taken it all with grace and composure IMO.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 5:51 PM

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Under achieved last year.HIGH expectations.No quarter for players team new staff.Hit the ground running or i will be breathing fire. I said it from the git go....right staff...right players...no excuses.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 6:35 PM

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BigWillieStyle wrote: I am not worried about our coordinators lacking experience. Mike Martz was never a coordinator and he turned out the #1 offense and won a Super Bowl with a team that nobody saw coming, that had a combined 9 wins the previous 2 seasons and a QB who wasn't supposed to start & wasn't too far removed from bagging groceries. Lovie Smith had never been a coordinator either with this same franchise, who was the worst defense thye prior season and they turned into the #3 defense and lost in the Super Bowl. Mike Tomlin had never been a coordinator and he only did one season, got the HC job in Pittsburgh and shortly after won a Super Bowl and then went to another one and lost. Experience is insignificant. You have to put your talent in the right position to succeed. Martz did that with the Rams, Lovie & Tomlin did that with the defenses that they coordinated for the first time. The Lions, as almost everyone agrees, have the talent in place. If they are properly utilized we can do a quick turnaround.
Don't mean to nitpick but...

In 1999, Martz was hired as the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams by Dick Vermeil, who went on to win Super Bowl XXXIV that season. During the season, Martz's number one ranked offense scored 526 points, the fourth highest in NFL history.[1] Regarding Martz's impact on the season, Vermeil stated, "I can't think, in my history of coaching, of any assistant who came into an NFL franchise and made the immediate impact that Mike Martz did."

-That said, I agree with your thought process. cool  Both the Saints and Ravens were bummed to lose Lombardi and Austin.  More than one fan was calling for Austin to take over as DC in Baltimore.  That speaks volumes.  I think the kind of man that Caldwell is, sort of an EF Hutton character, he's a guy that can mentor the young coaches.

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Posted: 7/2/2014 6:58 PM

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I'm your local Kool-Aid distributor kids. Super Freakin' Bowl. Go Lions!

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Posted: 7/2/2014 7:18 PM

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At times last year this offense was unstoppable.
The Lions were 6-3 before everything went haywire.

10-6 is very possible.
As always, there are a number of "ifs"
6-10 is also possible ...
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Posted: 7/2/2014 7:35 PM

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3RDRGR wrote:
BigWillieStyle wrote: I am not worried about our coordinators lacking experience. Mike Martz was never a coordinator and he turned out the #1 offense and won a Super Bowl with a team that nobody saw coming, that had a combined 9 wins the previous 2 seasons and a QB who wasn't supposed to start & wasn't too far removed from bagging groceries. Lovie Smith had never been a coordinator either with this same franchise, who was the worst defense thye prior season and they turned into the #3 defense and lost in the Super Bowl. Mike Tomlin had never been a coordinator and he only did one season, got the HC job in Pittsburgh and shortly after won a Super Bowl and then went to another one and lost. Experience is insignificant. You have to put your talent in the right position to succeed. Martz did that with the Rams, Lovie & Tomlin did that with the defenses that they coordinated for the first time. The Lions, as almost everyone agrees, have the talent in place. If they are properly utilized we can do a quick turnaround.
Don't mean to nitpick but...

In 1999, Martz was hired as the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams by Dick Vermeil, who went on to win Super Bowl XXXIV that season. During the season, Martz's number one ranked offense scored 526 points, the fourth highest in NFL history.[1] Regarding Martz's impact on the season, Vermeil stated, "I can't think, in my history of coaching, of any assistant who came into an NFL franchise and made the immediate impact that Mike Martz did."

-That said, I agree with your thought process. cool  Both the Saints and Ravens were bummed to lose Lombardi and Austin.  More than one fan was calling for Austin to take over as DC in Baltimore.  That speaks volumes.  I think the kind of man that Caldwell is, sort of an EF Hutton character, he's a guy that can mentor the young coaches.

I don't understand what you are nitpicking? Anyhoo, I think Jim Caldwell's approach will be very similar to how Dick Vermeil ran the 1999 Rams. He surrounded himself with a good staff and he let them do their thang. I think the biggest thing for Caldwell is to reach the players, keep them calm and under control. Let Lombardi run the offense, let Austin run the defense. I think Lombardi and Austin have a very aggressive approach and Caldwell would be best advicsed to just let them go...pirate
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