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Re: Contra Costa Recruiting Update

Posted: 12/29/2012 8:03 AM

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I have mixed emotions about this topic, local vs OOS player rosters . . . I am from the southern Cal region and live in the Mt Sac area . . . The Mounties changed their philosophy when the current head coach took over the helm of the program, half to more-than-half of the roster consist of out-of-area and out-of-state players, a very successful program . . . At a community college I was employed at from 1997 to 2010, the coach used exclusively local talent within Orange County, he has a successful program posting a winning record most years with a bowl bid, but fails to make the cut for the right to play for the state title . . . Since I am employed within the, and I quote, the "Community College" system, what does the word community mean in community college? A perplexing dilemma that I have emotionally wrestled for years, and I personally feel needs intervention and policy enforced from the CC Chancellor's Office . . .

aclb83 . . . If NCoast65 is an idiot, what does that make me, a Moran for asking a question or posting my view, isn't that why we post, to share, learn, and be entertained by one another?

Last edited 12/29/2012 8:10 AM by diablos06

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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:21 AM

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In just my "bizarre"world I comprehend the word Community to define that area I live in the other people in that area that reside there are my neighbors and community residents. Again in my world and way of thinking............. Community does not include the area known as Detroit..... Bangadesh....... Tonga...... Samoa Samoa........ Palermo.... Fairbanks...... etc. etc............

It means that place and surrounding tissue of the area that I live in... work in.... and drive about in..... NOT the place that I have to see a travel agent in order to get there via an airline !!!!
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Posted: 12/29/2012 12:22 PM

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I never called NCoast65 an idiot.........I called the FIRST  post by Yokster5 idiotic (actually ncoast had the same opinion as me)

Clearly Yokster is the parent of a local CCC kid not being recruited. Don't blame the team or school because your son is not getting recruited. It has nothing to do with OOS players; but rather the lack of size, speed, skill of the "local" players.

BTW.....the term community means people in that community pay taxes for the inexpensive fees. OOS students have not been paying taxes in that community and therefore must pay OOS fees, which is substantially more expensive.
diablos06 wrote: I have mixed emotions about this topic, local vs OOS player rosters . . . I am from the southern Cal region and live in the Mt Sac area . . . The Mounties changed their philosophy when the current head coach took over the helm of the program, half to more-than-half of the roster consist of out-of-area and out-of-state players, a very successful program . . . At a community college I was employed at from 1997 to 2010, the coach used exclusively local talent within Orange County, he has a successful program posting a winning record most years with a bowl bid, but fails to make the cut for the right to play for the state title . . . Since I am employed within the, and I quote, the "Community College" system, what does the word community mean in community college? A perplexing dilemma that I have emotionally wrestled for years, and I personally feel needs intervention and policy enforced from the CC Chancellor's Office . . .

aclb83 . . . If NCoast65 is an idiot, what does that make me, a Moran for asking a question or posting my view, isn't that why we post, to share, learn, and be entertained by one another?

Last edited 12/29/2012 12:24 PM by aclb83

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Posted: 12/29/2012 1:40 PM

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right on................
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Posted: 12/29/2012 3:10 PM

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My congradulations to Bakersfield for winning the championship. However, if you are going to educate everyone about the Bakersfield way, also inform us that Bakersfield is in the middle of no where with more high schools than any place in the state to draw from. As for community college, people are paying money to attend these schools, if the locals are not able to get classes because of outsiders, then legislate changes. Community college is first and foremost about plan A, Education.

Understand this, by nature, football on the college level can be construed as unfair. Unhappy D-1 players returning to community college because they were unhappy. Players from out of the area playing in front of locals. I have nothing but respect for the Bakersfield's, SFCC...ect because the coaches have guided these young men and prepared them for the next level. As a parent, I want to see Johnny play, but keep in mind, this is a business. Those scholarships, are not given, they are earned.

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Posted: 12/29/2012 5:09 PM

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According to you Bakersfield is in the middle of nowhere with all those high schools to draw from............ thats your point ??? FYI..... Bakersfield sits at the southern tip of the S.J. Valley while Sacramento sits in the north and Fresno in the middle. Sacramento has more high schools to draw from while Bakersfield and Fresno are the most comparable both in size and high schools............

So, why hasn`t Sac City, American River and Fresno City been as successful as Bakersfield College ??? Bakersfield built Memorial Stadium in the late `50s and it still remains as one of the top venues to watch football in........... plus the long tradition of the winning Renegade program..... Why Bakersfield and not Fresno or the schools in Sacramento ????

Also, what city in the Valley doesn`t sit out in nowhere ??? Fresno, Sacramento and Bakersfield are the population centers in the Valley.......... so what are you talking about ??
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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:27 PM

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It seems that you got lost regarding my point. You never said how many high schools are in Bakersfield.  You mentioned colleges in Sacramento. All are in close proxemity. In fact, when Solano shut down their program, Sacramento and the Bay Area took the players in.  In the middle of no where meant there is no other recruiting competition. 

My question to you is how many high schools are in Bakersfield and what other JCs are in close proximety. Don't give me valley, southern tip, just the facts.  We both know that there is a difference in country miles and city miles.  Thanks for a spirited debate, best wishes for the players wherever they play.
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:16 PM

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You never made a point............. just kinda rambled on !!! How many high schools in Fresno ??? How many high schools in the Sacramento area ??? One JC in Fresno..... what 2 in Sacramento ???

 

Bakersfield is 90 miles south of Fresno....... 110 milles north of L.A. so, now what ???? Oh, and just north of Ventura and Santa Barbara.............

Sacramento is a large area compared to Bakersfield............. so, who does Sac City compete with for their players ??? CCSF ? they are about the same distance that seperates Bakersfield and L.A.................... 

Last edited 12/29/2012 7:21 PM by NCoast65

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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:58 PM

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You said that I rambled. The two questions that I asked were in English. You answered one and side stepped the other.  Let me make it plain for you.  Bakersfield has double digit high schools, one JC and no other colleges around. You brag about all of the kids are from Bakersfield except for the Texas and Carolina kids.

A good coach and a good program should keep the local kids in Bakersfield. This is not knock on the program, just some information regarding a unique situation in Bakersfield that you refuse to acknowledge.  Once again, how many** high schools are in Bakersfield?**  Put it in print, and the rest is mute.

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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:03 PM

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How many HSs in Sacremento............ thats simple enough for you isn`t it ???
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