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kevin brown

Posted: 11/18/2012 2:49 PM

kevin brown 


kevin brown #44 redwoods
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Posted: 11/18/2012 3:09 PM

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Perhaps the level of competition at which he plays............... CR is not by any means a power house.............
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Posted: 11/18/2012 5:32 PM

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NCoast65 wrote: Perhaps the level of competition at which he plays............... CR is not by any means a power house.............

so is the "level of competition at which he plays" any different from E. Florence or other highly touted LB's in Bay Valley conference?  That he led the state in tackles, both solo and total, says something positive about his skill and potential.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 7:43 PM

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Well the level of competition does play a part in the recruitment process........... a LB at tier 3 for an example that is outstanding probably isn`t going to receive the majority of D1 offers that say a LB at Butte or CCSF or the tier 1 athletes in most cases............

As an example how well do you think that the College of the Redwoods would match up with CCSF,Butte or American Rivers as a team ??? Same for the athletes against the athletes from the CCSFs , Buttes etc.................

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Posted: 11/18/2012 8:32 PM

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Kevin Brown is a high quality athlete, no matter what the level of competition his offer will come down to his promotion.. freshman leading the state is remarkable no matter what division, LB from Monterey is also a guy to watch, 3rd in state in tackles although he missed 2 games. Eriquel Florence great LB as well assl from South division and hands down best LBs in California this year check the Hudl film.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 9:03 PM

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It all boils down to who they are playing against............ they can be studs playing Shasta but what are they playing against Butte ??? Butte used as an example......... LEVEL OF COMPETITION !!!! His offer will come down to grades, size, speed, technique and level of athletic ability !!!! NOT promotion.......................

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Posted: 11/18/2012 11:23 PM

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What it can also say is his teammates maybe were not that good. I have always believe looking at Tackles For Losses is the best sign to look for in a DL/LB. Its the ability to make a play on the other side of the ball. If you get a tackle 7 yards on your side of the ball they give you credit for the tackle but does that mean you made a good play, No. 

He maybe a good player, but there is no way to put him up against the LB's at Butte, CCSF and CSM as the level of play is not the same. A player may run for a 1,000 yards at D3, but does that make him a better player then a RB at D1 who runs for 700 yards. D1 is that for a reason, on average the players are better. Don't think playing Shasta is the same as Butte, CCSF or any of the teams in the D1 level.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 2:48 AM

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NCoast65 wrote: It all boils down to who they are playing against............ they can be studs playing Shasta but what are they playing against Butte ??? Butte used as an example......... LEVEL OF COMPETITION !!!! His offer will come down to grades, size, speed, technique and level of athletic ability !!!! NOT promotion.......................

this +100
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Posted: 11/19/2012 7:39 AM

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JC Steiner wrote: What it can also say is his teammates maybe were not that good. I have always believe looking at Tackles For Losses is the best sign to look for in a DL/LB. Its the ability to make a play on the other side of the ball. If you get a tackle 7 yards on your side of the ball they give you credit for the tackle but does that mean you made a good play, No. 

He maybe a good player, but there is no way to put him up against the LB's at Butte, CCSF and CSM as the level of play is not the same. A player may run for a 1,000 yards at D3, but does that make him a better player then a RB at D1 who runs for 700 yards. D1 is that for a reason, on average the players are better. Don't think playing Shasta is the same as Butte, CCSF or any of the teams in the D1 level.

seems like you are trying to minimize this specific player's abilities by preaching your generalized guidelines. i don't think this kid would be riding the bench at any of those other schools you mention.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 8:24 AM

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Rather that focussing on the level, sometimes you need to see the individual play. Using your logic, Jerry Rice, Walter Peyton, Doug Williams would have been overlooked due to playing on a lower division team. Fortunately D-1 coaches don't use the same logic and just visit only the elite division schools. I have seen enough football to know, if a kid can play, he can play. Wherever he is going, the team will not be going with him. His tallent will have to stand on it's own.  No major college wanted James Michael Johnson until Nevada was convinced by a concerned coach to give him a chance. Now he is with the Cleveland Browns. Contra Costa got nine D-1 sighnees out last year. Not bad for a lower division.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:02 AM

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Barry Sacks................... ???? Ken Wilson ??? Nevada and their program are known for taking kids that no one else wants.... Colin Kaepernick is the best example.

James Michael still has slow feet and mis reads but true is with the Browns. BTW might as well mention Virgil Green in that group....... sometimes a gamble does pay off. I can also give you the names of players that Nevada and Ault missed on..... in that group of LBs that  James Michael was recruited in.... there was another LB that was in the words of the little general the best athlete on the team and never started a game for the Silver and Blue but is now kicking it in LA area.

And, you are comparing the recruitment of HS to a JC program............ in a JC enviroment you have another chance to evaluate a kid against the competition..... James Michael was not an undersized kid... many times a coach that recruits a kid also gives extra attention to that kid in his program to make sure his decision is the right one........... still comes down to grades, size, speed and football ability.

Maybe you can get Sacks or Wilson up to CR ????

Last edited 11/19/2012 9:20 AM by NCoast65

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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:37 AM

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You might lay off that pink lemonade....................
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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:58 PM

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I agree that gems can be found at the D3 level. The issue I had was people see stats and think stats are everything. Stats depend on the level of compation and style of team play.
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