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Butler/Hutch -- Better the second time around?

Posted: 11/06/2012 7:21 AM

Butler/Hutch -- Better the second time around? 


Prior to the Hutch game, I didn't really think that Hutch would be a serious threat to Butler, and I don't think I was alone.  At least one poster called us out, asking why we believed that the result of the game was a foregone conclusion?

Well, the first game played itself out, and it was, as expected, another Butler beat down of Hutch.  Frankly, the Hutch fan turnout for the game told me that most fans had written this game off, even if a few hardcore fans were still holding out hope for a win. 

So, now I want to flip the question around for Hutch fans -- is there any expectation that Hutch can pull off an upset?  Or is the result now a foregone conclusion?

To be honest, I get a little more nervous each week because we're so close to another national title shot.  I am fretting a slip up.  That being said, my more logical side says that this game will be much like the last.  We may not win by 33, but I think Butler takes this game by multiple scores in the end. 

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Posted: 11/10/2012 12:25 PM

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Butler79 wrote:

Prior to the Hutch game, I didn't really think that Hutch would be a serious threat to Butler, and I don't think I was alone.  At least one poster called us out, asking why we believed that the result of the game was a foregone conclusion?

Well, the first game played itself out, and it was, as expected, another Butler beat down of Hutch.  Frankly, the Hutch fan turnout for the game told me that most fans had written this game off, even if a few hardcore fans were still holding out hope for a win. 

So, now I want to flip the question around for Hutch fans -- is there any expectation that Hutch can pull off an upset?  Or is the result now a foregone conclusion?

To be honest, I get a little more nervous each week because we're so close to another national title shot.  I am fretting a slip up.  That being said, my more logical side says that this game will be much like the last.  We may not win by 33, but I think Butler takes this game by multiple scores in the end. 


I never get nervous about Butler's D.  As you've pointed out before, they just don't get scored on in great quantity.  Hopefully the offense continues to fire along.

Really, I just don't see how Hutch can put up enough points while limiting Butler's scoring.  Plus, the injury to their stud on the D line will hurt, too, regardless whether it's Thomas or Smith running the ball.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 5:05 PM

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get a few players hurt in this game and it may create some problems at the next game! cool

butler will win the game but you fans better hope you don't get a player hurt in the process.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 7:08 PM

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JayhawkAlumni wrote: get a few players hurt in this game and it may create some problems at the next game! cool

butler will win the game but you fans better hope you don't get a player hurt in the process.

What is wrong with you, man?  That's the worst thing I've ever seen anyone write on here - with that smirking smiley face like you're wishing it would happen.   Once and for all, go away.

Last edited 11/11/2012 8:44 AM by Irish2009

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Posted: 11/11/2012 9:17 AM

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Its a game; things happen.... not a thing wrong with what was posted.

Meet me and we can discuss me going away! cool
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Posted: 11/11/2012 1:36 PM

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You Butler boys are awful quiet about this tie ball game...
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Posted: 11/11/2012 2:24 PM

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Watch some of the game online (could only take so much), not impressed with Butler AT ALL! Hutch had numerous opportunities in the first half, and they were playing without 2 of their best players.

I have not watched a Butler game this season, but from the posts on this site, I was expecting a far better team.

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Posted: 11/11/2012 2:30 PM

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dude, did you listen to the announcers at all?  33 degress and 18mph winds, and butler is still without a fully capable dreamius smith.  first time they've had weather conditions like that at a game this year.  

hutch may have had opportunities, but one of the differences between a good team and a great team is taking advantage of those opportunities.  Hutch did not maximize their output from those opportunities and thus lost.

but over all, it doesn't matter what you think and nothing i say makes a difference.  take your sour grapes and enjoy the offseason.  butler still has one more game to go and gets to play for a(nother) national title.  

this link pretty much sums it all up in a concise post-game analysis for you...
POST GAME
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Posted: 11/11/2012 3:59 PM

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Cold and windy.... Oh that completely changes my view.
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Posted: 11/11/2012 4:02 PM

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SouthHasRisen wrote: Cold and windy.... Oh that completely changes my view.
50 degrees is cold.  33 is one degree away from freezing.  MS boys couldn't hold up well in cold like that.  18mph isn't windy, that's dang right gusting.  Hutch had a 4 yard punt into the wind.  it was a game changer whether or not  you want to believe it or not.  

your sarcasm and your obsession is noted.  please keep coming around the jayhawk message boards to display your butt-hurt for the world to see.  and, really, i meant it earlier: enjoy the offseason.  some teams still have games to play.  after crapping the bed against co-lin, your "best team in the nation" gets to go home and think about how great they are and you get to hoist mythical trophies in your mind in their honor, lol.

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Posted: 11/11/2012 5:41 PM

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The cold caused some dropped passes and probably a couple of fumbles, but the wind was the bigger factor. Passing downfield was impossible, and kicking into the wind was a joke. Only one team scored while driving into the wind-- butler in the third, a rushing TD. This game was definitely ugly, but in conditions like that, a win is a win. Butler will look a lot better in the uni dome.
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Posted: 11/11/2012 5:46 PM

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Uhhhh, we're at the game. Game never in doubt. We have been a 4th Q team for over 15 years. Nothing new. Winningest NJCAA program since 1998.
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Posted: 11/12/2012 9:02 AM

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The wind had a massive effect on the game. Billy Cosh barely overthrew receivers a few times that probably would have been touchdowns without the wind. Hutchinson's receivers had a bad case of the drops yesterday, likely due to the cold weather.

Dreamius Smith not playing much was offset with Terrell Lane's ankle injury.

Butler did what Butler does in close games - patiently wait and then pounce on an opening. Yesterday, it was the fumbled lateral when Hutchinson had the ball and the game was tied 16-16. Teams that makes mistakes like that against Butler are begging for it.

Butler will be fine in the championship game indoors.
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