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"Of course, Butler's dominance over Hutchinson - the Blue Dragons have not beaten Butler since 1997 - is more than simply turnovers. Inopportune penalties, long kickoff returns and missed tackles all add up when playing the Grizzlies.
'We played good; we've just got to eliminate mistakes,' defensive lineman Ben Bradley said. 'We know we can fix it for when we play Butler again. We've got to be perfect in practice this week.'"Um, really? The drought is going on 15 years now, and it's just mental mistakes that are keeping Hutch from picking up a single win in its last 20 or so tries? Wow. Not once does this article mention or suggest that Butler is simply a better football team/program. No, it's just those pesky mistakes. If only Hutch could correct the mistakes, they'd win. Oh, and Ben . . . No, you didn't play well. Giving up 40 points is not playing well. Cleaning up mistakes won't solve the problem. You have to perform better. Period.
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poppabear wrote: Butler for a shot at the NJCAA title or Hutch to knock them out?
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BradHallier wrote: Loooong time lurker and now I feel is the time I join in. First of all, just wanted to say hi to everyone. Yes, I am indeed the real Brad Hallier, the HCC beat writer for The Hutchinson News and I'm looking forward to contributing to these conversations.OK ... now it's time to address Butler79. Calling me a homer. Seriously? If you can point out to where my pom-poms are for HCC, please do so. If you're going to call me a homer, bring out specific examples. The Hutchinson News pays my bills, not Hutchinson Community College. I gain absolutely nothing from Hutchinson winning, and I lose absolutely nothing from Hutchinson losing.I never wrote it was just mental mistakes that have led to every loss since 1997. Never. Read it again. "... more than turnovers. Inopportune penalties, long kickoff returns and missed tackles all add up when playing Grizzlies."Those, Butler79, are a few among many reasons Hutchinson does not beat Butler. I can't control what any player said. Ben Bradley never said "mental mistakes." He said, "mistakes." And I think even a savvy football person like yourself can agree a team that has a minus-four margin in turnovers is not likely to win. Those are mistakes. When you clean up mistakes, you play better football. Butler rarely makes mistakes. That's a big reason they win and win big often. I can promise you that on Sunday, if Hutchinson wins the turnover battle by four and Butler sends a couple snaps over Billy Cosh's head, and the punter shanks a couple out of bounds, they're going to have a hard time winning. Mistakes = bad performances. Mistake-free = good performance.And I don't think I need to openly write that Butler is a better team/program. I think simply pointing out that Butler has won every game against Hutch since 1997 says enough. I have written a TON about Troy Morrell through the years. I have written about his dad even. I have the utmost respect for Troy and the beast he has built. I know you're trying to find something, anything, to provide material for the Grizzlies, but it isn't there.
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BradHallier wrote: Testy??? No. Just standing up for what I wrote and contributing to the discussion.In order to beat Butler, teams have to play near-perfect football. It would take a 20-inch story to put down all the mistakes teams cannot make against Butler. The ones are listed were the obvious ones Hutchinson has been known to make when playing Butler. Those aren't "my" excuses. I don't play the game.You're comparison of playing LeBron James 1 v 1 to Hutch-Butler is just a smidgen apples to oranges. You could play LeBron James 1 v 1 100 times and you would lose every time. Every time. If this year's Hutch and Butler team played 100 times, Butler would not likely win all 100. As a matter of fact, look at yesterday's game. Hutchinson was right there. You would never be "right there" against LeBron James. You have zero percent chance to beat LeBron James. Hutchinson's chances of beating Butler, while not high, are much higher than zero.You also say Hutchinson is not good enough to play with Butler. That was proven wrong yesterday. Hutchinson can play with Butler.2003: 36-34 Butler2004: 34-13 Butler, but it was a 13-13 game with less than 7 minutes left.2007: 34-26 Butler. Hutchinson's last-second pass was intercepted in the end zone.2008: 29-14 in championship game. Hutch led 14-10 in fourth quarter, and the game turned on an onside kick that even Troy Morrell admitted wasn't supposed to be an onside kick. But great teams make their own luck, without a doubt.2009: 13-10 Butler, winning on a last-second field goal2012: 26-16 Butler. Butler held to fewest yards of the season, game was tied in third quarter.Hutchinson is good enough to play with Butler. But they can't beat Butler.I hope this post is good enough to be discussed with other people who know intimately and understand the programs and history.
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jhcfan wrote: Brad, don't respond to to 79. Some of the guys on this site live for that.79, you were wrong. You called Brad a homer for his article and there was absolutely nothing to that claim. The article was complimentary to Butler and pointed out they had beaten Hutch 20 straight times. You were seeing something that wasn't there.
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