Posted: 10/30/2012 8:29 AM
Posted: 10/30/2012 8:31 AM
NEFootball wrote:Butler may get excluded from the national championship because their conference has a losing record and Blinn (Butler's lone NC win) turns out to be a 2-6 team.
Posted: 10/30/2012 1:55 PM
Posted: 10/30/2012 3:32 PM
Posted: 10/30/2012 7:21 PM
Posted: 11/10/2012 11:06 AM
Butler79 wrote: There would be a riot if butler were left out in favor of Nassau.
Posted: 11/10/2012 11:31 AM
Posted: 11/10/2012 11:37 AM
bandrat wrote: Out of all of this, I see light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe a team from "whiney" Mississippi will play NEO in a bowl game. I would love to see that happen.
Posted: 11/15/2012 10:34 PM
Last edited 11/15/2012 10:39 PM by rounders23
Posted: 11/16/2012 6:34 AM
Posted: 11/16/2012 7:29 AM
I hear you, to get respect you have to earn it. To their defense, Monroe scored 21 points in the second half on ASA's JV guys, not their 1st nor 2nd team guys... Yes, ASA has a JV team also... They also gave Nassau short fields twice (inside 20) with turnovers (14 quick points). They gave up 14 against Dean and 3 against Lackawanna; two respectable programs. I understand that historically the NE conference have not been the powerhouses of JUCO football world. ASA is on it's 4th year of existence and they are a full scholarship program. Little by little they have recruited top talent from around the country (My recruits from Miami, FL). Together with the D1 bouncebacks, they have been able to put a nice product on the field. With all that said, the games need to be played.If ASA can keep the turnovers to a minimum, I believe they will take this game convincingly. If not, it can be a long day. No matter how good your defense is, if they're on the field all day and in short yardage situations, it will equal to a long day for them. Last year when ASA faced the #1 rusher in the country (Louisburg), he was shut out. This year they face the #1 rusher in the country again. It will be an interesting matchup. Do you think that Nassau can go down to the desert and beat Arizona Western?
Last edited 11/16/2012 8:15 AM by rounders23
Posted: 11/16/2012 7:42 AM
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Last edited 11/16/2012 12:10 PM by NEFootball
Posted: 11/16/2012 1:14 PM
Posted: 11/16/2012 5:01 PM
NEFootball wrote: ASA is good and, although its far from a home game for ASA, Snow does have to come to the Northeast which is something no team west of the Mississippi has done in a long time. I will go to this game and am excited to watch it.
Posted: 11/16/2012 6:11 PM
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Posted: 11/18/2012 1:26 AM
Butler79 wrote: I;m not sold on AZ Western or the AZ/Utah conference, in general. I think that conference is notably inferior to the other 3 power conferences, especially since the loss of Dixie College a decade or so ago. In fact, it might be more comparable to the Iowa conferece, esp. now that IWCC is making a name for itself. So, yeah, I think Nassau has a chance. I'm not sure that I would even say Nassau is an underdog.
From my vantage point, it appears that there are many similarities among the different conferences. As a general observation, each conference generally features 1 really good team and one or maybe two challangers each year. Butler/Hutch, Blinn/Navarro, Snow/AW, etc. After that, the quality of teams appears to degrade quickly for pretty much every conference. As far as which conference is the best top to bottom - we'll never know because the current system doesn't allow for enough interconference games to make any meaningful conclusions. However, just going off of the recent bowl games for the top teams from the WSFL since 2008, AZW played for the national title last year against East Mississippi and lost in the final minute of the game in a shootout in Arizona. The previous year, Blinn beat AZW by 4 points in the Heart of Texas Bowl. The year before that, AZW lost to East Mississippi by 3 points in the Mississippi Bowl. The year before that, Snow lost to Butler in double overtime in the national championship game in SLC by gifting Butler a fumble recovery in the endzone after a blocked kick that cost Snow the game. Each of these games weren't decided until basically the last posession or sometimes even the last play of the game. A single play could have changed the outcomes of any of these games. My whole point is that I think among the top teams from each of the major conferences, I think there is a lot of parity, not just in comparing the WSFL conference to the others, but among all the major conferences in general. I have a hard time picking one conference over another for more than a single season at a time. For me it just depends on what kind of year individual teams are having in a given year. Now, all that said, I think I favor AZW in this game, but only because I know nothing about Nasau. I don't think it will be a given - I expect Nassau to put up a fight. They have certainly put up some impressive numbers during the season. But AZW has been impressive as well. They played for all the marbles just last year and have established a winning tradition over the last several years, with several players back from last years team. They have athletes and several key playmakers. In the end I think they eventually overpower Nassau.
Last edited 11/19/2012 7:56 PM by NJCAAfootballfan
Posted: 11/19/2012 9:26 AM