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Re: Butler/Hutch

Posted: 10/28/2012 7:35 PM

Re: Butler/Hutch 



poppabear wrote: Hutch's turnovers were not from 'intimidation', 'bad luck', nor 'self-inflicted'. Any more guesses? Where's the Mouth-of-the-South when you need him? 
Hutch had a huge hometown advantage with several bizarre calls. What was the deal on the after-play pileup and ensuing beatdown of Cosh? Looked like an alley fight. No flag as I recall.
Agree on both accounts.

Hutch didn't suffer from turnovers (for whatever reason one might come up with).  Butler took the ball away, plain and simple.

Head the call on the radio about the pileup on Cosh, how it seemed dirty from the get-go, and then how Hutch players celebrated as Cosh was hurt on the ground.  Radio guys were not impressed.  Glad Cosh came back out there and finished strong.
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Posted: 10/29/2012 6:58 AM

Re: Butler/Hutch 



Irish2009 wrote:
poppabear wrote: Hutch's turnovers were not from 'intimidation', 'bad luck', nor 'self-inflicted'. Any more guesses? Where's the Mouth-of-the-South when you need him? 
Hutch had a huge hometown advantage with several bizarre calls. What was the deal on the after-play pileup and ensuing beatdown of Cosh? Looked like an alley fight. No flag as I recall.
Agree on both accounts.

Hutch didn't suffer from turnovers (for whatever reason one might come up with).  Butler took the ball away, plain and simple.

Head the call on the radio about the pileup on Cosh, how it seemed dirty from the get-go, and then how Hutch players celebrated as Cosh was hurt on the ground.  Radio guys were not impressed.  Glad Cosh came back out there and finished strong.
Good to hear about AZW. I wasn't really worried about them, but this removes any doubt. If Butler wins out, it will be IWCC and Butler for all the marbles.

I hate to count my chickens before they've hatched, but considering that we've beaten the next two teams that we are likely to face by a combined margin of 104 points, I feel pretty confident in expressing this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Ua7yJhdcA

I do think Butler was a little fortunate in getting some red zone turnovers.  I'm not suggesting that they weren't caused, or that the score should have been different -- just that we can't expect to get multiple red zone turnovers every game. 

But, there are a couple of counters to that -- (1) Hutch only lost 1 of 4 fumbles, recovering one in the end zone for its only TD, so fumbling was really not the cause of any big score swings.  The Int's were not luck. Barnes was forced to press the issue because Butler built up a lead, and he and the rest of the O just aren't good enough to do that.  (2) Butler also had its own red zone problems, failing to score a couple of times in or near the red zone.  In the end, I think that all evened out, and the margin of victory was about what it should be. 

The pile-on of Cosh was the start of the officiating problems.  After that, the game got very chippy on both sides.  Needless to say, Butler players were a little angry that their QB was mauled and frustrated that the officials didn't bother to throw a flag.  What resulted was pushing and shoving aftern nearly every play for the rest of the game.  There were 4 personal foul penalties -- three of which were on Butler.  Flagging Butler rewarded Hutch for the BS and only added to Butler's anger and frustration.  Without even considering the other ridiculous calls (or non-calls), these refs should be reprimanded for allowing the game to get out of control.

Last edited 10/29/2012 9:01 AM by Butler79

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