Question- Say Palomar wins against OCC this week with a bye next week and finishes 8-2. GC and Sadd play the final week of the season (provided they both win this week) and Sadd wins. That would give Pal, GC and Sadd identical records (4-2) league and over all (8-2). GC beat Pal, Pal beat Sadd, Sadd beats GC. What would the 2nd place conference playoff tie breaker(s) be? 

I know coulda, woulda, shoulda, but it could very easily happen.

i personally think sadd winning the tie breakers is BS...palomar was 6 pts from being undefeated. out of conference play should not determine who goes to playoffs or not...

lego88 wrote:

i personally think sadd winning the tie breakers is BS...palomar was 6 pts from being undefeated. out of conference play should not determine who goes to playoffs or not...

I know it's a daunting feeling to hope for a Don uprising over the Griffins to keep the Comets' playoff chances alive, but the assertion that Palomar belongs in the playoffs because they were "6 pts from being undefeated" is absurd.  You know what, "I was 6 tenths of a second from running a 4.4 forty" I should have gotten that full ride to USC instead of Junior Seau.  SCFA bylaws are voted by the quorum members (coaches, AD's) and those rules are what they all play by....don't like the criteria, then change it.  Or simply be like the Hornets and take care of business during conference play so that the tie-breaker rules wouldn't be bothered.  If the Gauchos decide to take care of their business in 2 weeks they deserve to be in the playoffs just as much as any team in the tough southern conference.

DauberDybinski wrote:

 

lego88 wrote:

i personally think sadd winning the tie breakers is BS...palomar was 6 pts from being undefeated. out of conference play should not determine who goes to playoffs or not...

I know it's a daunting feeling to hope for a Don uprising over the Griffins to keep the Comets' playoff chances alive, but the assertion that Palomar belongs in the playoffs because they were "6 pts from being undefeated" is absurd.  You know what, "I was 6 tenths of a second from running a 4.4 forty" I should have gotten that full ride to USC instead of Junior Seau.  SCFA bylaws are voted by the quorum members (coaches, AD's) and those rules are what they all play by....don't like the criteria, then change it.  Or simply be like the Hornets and take care of business during conference play so that the tie-breaker rules wouldn't be bothered.  If the Gauchos decide to take care of their business in 2 weeks they deserve to be in the playoffs just as much as any team in the tough southern conference.

well said, Dauber!

One thing about the playoffs, the ninth team will always be pissed. But if 20 teams made the playoffs, the 21st team would find a way to say it's not fair. The fact that 8 teams are in, just about guarantees that whoever the best team is, is most likely gonna be in the playoffs. We can't ask for much more than that. If you get left out because the other team beat a higher ranked opponent, well, you shouldn't have lost two games. You lose two games in the North and you won't even get a sniff.

I may be mistaken but doesn't the playoff system change next year eliminating the auto qualifiers and just taking the top eight teams?

I have not heard Tommy. I wonder how the champs of the lower divisions would like that.

I wish the COA would stop treating the North and South as different states and give both sides the same playoff system, or at least the same amount of teams. Heck the Norcal and Valley conferences are a dogfight right now with most contenders seeming to be of equal ability.

Murph11 wrote:

One thing about the playoffs, the ninth team will always be pissed. But if 20 teams made the playoffs, the 21st team would find a way to say it's not fair. The fact that 8 teams are in, just about guarantees that whoever the best team is, is most likely gonna be in the playoffs. We can't ask for much more than that. If you get left out because the other team beat a higher ranked opponent, well, you shouldn't have lost two games. You lose two games in the North and you won't even get a sniff.

then the ninth team should have won one more game

 A buddy of mine suggested the three teams meet at Pala Casino and play craps for the 2nd spot.  At least the two teams that didn't get in would enjoy their weekend.

Here is the wording for next years playoff system if it passes legislation at the CCCAA meeting in the spring. This is from the COA website and it was put in by the commisioner of the SCFCA

2.3.3 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SEEDING

Playoff/bowl game participants will be selected and seeded

using the following process:

A. The champions of theNational Division conferences (the National-Northern, the National-Central, the National-Southern)  and the next five (5)highest ranked teams in the final CCCFCA/COA poll will compete in an eight (8)-team playoff to determine the Southern California regional champion to advance to the state championship game versus the Northern California regional champion. (Also stated in CCCAA Football

Championship Handbook Section 1.4.3 CCCAA Southern

California Football Playoff Format.)

If champions of the American Division fail to make they playoffs, they would automatically make a bowl game.

why does the local fish wrap say BC has to beat COC, to win the conference outright.  Sorry, but BC beat Hancock and Ventura, so how does that work?  Is there no tie break there?  Hmmm.

Guess BC just has to beat COC and they should, or there should be no crying if they don't 

Well technically if  BC loses, there will be a tie for the championship of the Northern Conference with whoever wins the Hancock/Ventura game. But the only difference in a loss to Canyons is how high BC is seeded.

ill bet when sac beat cerritos they will move to 1 and elco beat cerritos they will  jump to 2 and bako stays fourth with win over coc   i can even see them dropping us to 5  l.a.pollsters play big time favorites to big city schools its allready proven after bako kicked asses of two of the better defensive teams .no matter what the big city coaches look down on us country people I LOVE IT BEING UNDERDOG IS FUN FUN FUN..GO BIG RED .  go GADESSSSSSS goGADESSSSSSS goGADESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSS.

If BC beats Canyons, they'll be no lower than a 3 in my estimation.

yes should be because coc beat fullerton correct   lets see if we win how the pollsters vote us or will they leave fullerton in front of us even after we kicked ass on ventura and they won by a mere 3   plus ive looked at there games they have had some close ones and bakersfield really has blown everyone out exept elco and hancock which we all know was 24 to 3 in fourth