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Despite losing 3 out of 5 state games

Posted: 05/24/2014 6:09 PM

Despite losing 3 out of 5 state games 


LETS REALLY THINK GUYS ..HOW MANY OF YOU REALLY. REALLY BELIEVE MT SAC EVEN GETS TO ONE STATE GAME IN THE 2000S. IF THEY HAD OHHH LETS SAY. 98 PERCENT LOCAL TALENT. WALNUT. WEST COVINA AND HELL WELL EVEN THROW IN POMONA .YOU WERE HAVETO BE COMPLETELY BRAIN DEAD TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE .I KNOW IT YOU SHOULD KNOW IT AND FOR A FACT THEY KNOW IT .BUT THEN TO LOSE 3 OUT OF 5 AND DAMN NEAR 4 OUT OF 5 WITH ALL THE OOS ALLSTARS. IS REALLY UNBELIEVABLE ALSO. THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN ALLMOST LOSING SOME PRETTY CLOSE GAMES THE LAST FEW SEASON IN GAMES THEY SHOULD HAVE TOTALLY DOMINATED WITH THEIR HUGE OOS ALLSTARS. AND NOW IT APPEARS. RCC OWNS THEM .PS. REMEMBER. THE QUESTION IS WOULD THEY HAVE REACHED STATE 5 TIMES WITH 98 PERCENT VERY LOCAL PLAYERS IN THEIR AREA. And maybe 4 oos players SIMPLE YES OR NO ANSWER. NO BS EXCUSES. EITHER. YEs OR NO !

Last edited 05/24/2014 7:06 PM by gadesrule2011

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Posted: 05/24/2014 7:09 PM

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You're right. They'd probably only win a State title every 25 years or so.
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Posted: 05/24/2014 8:07 PM

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You are CORRECT JJ. ALL JOKING ASIDE ITS A FACT WITHOUR THE BIG OOS. THEY WOULD NEVER HAD REACH STATE IN 2000 ERA .BIG BIG TRUE FACT
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Posted: 05/24/2014 8:31 PM

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So they'd be like BC is what you are saying. I agree. One championship every 25 years maybe.
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Posted: 05/24/2014 8:32 PM

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NO MORE LIKE RCC. 1 PLAYOFF EVERY 15 YRS. LMAOOOOOOOOOO.ORRRR LIKE THE DALLAS. COWGIRLS. CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE. LMAOOOOOOOO

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Posted: 05/24/2014 9:11 PM

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NO MORE LIKE RCC. 1 PLAYOFF EVERY 15 YRS. LMAOOOOOOOOOO.ORRRR LIKE THE DALLAS. COWGIRLS. CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE. LMAOOOOOOOO

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Remind me. Hasn't RCC won a National Championship more recently than BC has?
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Posted: 05/24/2014 10:28 PM

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Great stuff whilst I enjoy my nightcap.

Hook, line and sinker! Good one JJ

By the way Wikipedia says Home Grown is clearly out of Orange County : )

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Grown

Last edited 05/24/2014 11:01 PM by ScubaSteve2

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Posted: 05/25/2014 11:49 AM

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Let's get some clarification on the definition of choking. RCC, in the Craft years, ended up undefeated and ranked #1 in SoCal in a year they were ineligible for the playoffs, taking down the back-to-back State and National champion Mounties. In the opinion of many, this was the best team he has fielded at RCC. In the two years since being eligible for the playoffs, RCC was knocked out one year by the Mounties and returned the favor the following year, advancing to the SoCal championship.

If Gadesrule's idea of choking is not winning a State title, what is to be said for BC since their last championship in 1988? Would all of those seasons with no hardware to show - all the while being eligible for the playoffs not, in his definition, be choking?
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Posted: 05/25/2014 3:02 PM

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JJ . . . There is no shortage of superlatives for RCC over the last four years . . . If the definition of choking is failing to reach the top, or being the last team standing, then we have an abundance of chokers in the sports we enjoy watching . . . Why not admire the performances before us, win or lose, this is a case where the journey exceeds the destination . . .

Last edited 05/25/2014 3:03 PM by diablos06

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Posted: 05/25/2014 7:51 PM

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I concur wholeheartedly, diablos. I'm just wondering how a #1 ranked team, ineligible for the playoffs, who beat the twice crowned champs, was any less than a 4-6 team, how a team that lost in its first year of playoff eligibility to the perennial league power house was any less than a team that had a championship stripped for league violations, and how a team that lost in the SoCal championship was any less than a 5-5 also ran.

Last edited 05/25/2014 8:19 PM by junglejim

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Posted: 05/25/2014 11:07 PM

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Well JJ........ maybe you would be able to answer yourself if you spent less time with those sheep.......
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Posted: 05/26/2014 7:51 AM

Re: BC….CHEATERS NEVER WIN….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 


AND RCC WINS A STATE CHAMP ONCE A 100 YEARS….!!!!

AND BC ONCE EVERY 50 YEARS…!!!

MT SAC FIRST BACK TO BACK "NATIONAL" CHAMPIONS IN JC FOOTBALL HISTORY….NOT STATE, "NATIONAL"……..!!!!!!!!!!!

YEAH, THATS WHAT US MT SAC FAITHFULS DO BUDDY, WE SET RECORDS OUT HERE IN THIS JC FOOTBALL WORLD…!!!

gades…..STOP BEING A CHEATER BUDDY….HAHAHAHAHAHA. IM SO GLAD THEY TOOK THAT TITILE FROM BC…YESSSSS…..!!! BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR BC TO BEAT THE BACK TO BACK NATIONAL CHAMPS, YOU HAD TO CHEAT YOUR WAY TO THE TOP AND THAT'S WHY THEY TOOK IT AWAY AND GAVE YOU GUYS THE L FOR THE WHOLE SEASON….hahahahahahahahahahahaha.




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You're right. They'd probably only win a State title every 25 years or so.

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Posted: 05/26/2014 8:02 AM

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Let me give you some clarification on the definition of choking…..in 5 year Craft has been at RCC….HAS NOTHING TO SHOW FOR ALL 5 YEARS….HAHAHAHAHAHA. OOHHHH WAIT, HE MADE THE PLAYOFF ONE YEAR AND STUNK IT UP….HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I DO REMEMBER A CERTAIN QB RIGHT….??????

TALK ABOUT CLARIFICATION ON THE DEFINITION OF CHOKING….THATS CHOKING TO THE 10TH POWER RIGHT THERE…!!!!

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Let's get some clarification on the definition of choking. RCC, in the Craft years, ended up undefeated and ranked #1 in SoCal in a year they were ineligible for the playoffs, taking down the back-to-back State and National champion Mounties. In the opinion of many, this was the best team he has fielded at RCC. In the two years since being eligible for the playoffs, RCC was knocked out one year by the Mounties and returned the favor the following year, advancing to the SoCal championship.

If Gadesrule's idea of choking is not winning a State title, what is to be said for BC since their last championship in 1988? Would all of those seasons with no hardware to show - all the while being eligible for the playoffs not, in his definition, be choking?

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Posted: 05/26/2014 9:00 AM

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DUDE! WEBSTER "CKOCKING": MOunt Sac beating RCC 17-3 in the 1st quarter, then getting outscored 23-7 in the second quarter and lose 33-30 to lose the conference and getting knocked off the playoffs!!! HAHAHAH LOSER!!!!

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Let me give you some clarification on the definition of choking…..in 5 year Craft has been at RCC….HAS NOTHING TO SHOW FOR ALL 5 YEARS….HAHAHAHAHAHA. OOHHHH WAIT, HE MADE THE PLAYOFF ONE YEAR AND STUNK IT UP….HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I DO REMEMBER A CERTAIN QB RIGHT….??????

TALK ABOUT CLARIFICATION ON THE DEFINITION OF CHOKING….THATS CHOKING TO THE 10TH POWER RIGHT THERE…!!!!

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Let's get some clarification on the definition of choking. RCC, in the Craft years, ended up undefeated and ranked #1 in SoCal in a year they were ineligible for the playoffs, taking down the back-to-back State and National champion Mounties. In the opinion of many, this was the best team he has fielded at RCC. In the two years since being eligible for the playoffs, RCC was knocked out one year by the Mounties and returned the favor the following year, advancing to the SoCal championship.

If Gadesrule's idea of choking is not winning a State title, what is to be said for BC since their last championship in 1988? Would all of those seasons with no hardware to show - all the while being eligible for the playoffs not, in his definition, be choking?

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Posted: 05/26/2014 11:19 AM

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Ru4 wrote: 

YEAH, THATS WHAT US MT SAC FAITHFULS DO BUDDY, WE SET RECORDS OUT HERE IN THIS JC FOOTBALL WORLD…!!!

gades…..STOP BEING A CHEATER BUDDY….HAHAHAHAHAHA. IM SO GLAD THEY TOOK THAT TITILE FROM BC…YESSSSS…..!!! BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR BC TO BEAT THE BACK TO BACK NATIONAL CHAMPS, YOU HAD TO CHEAT YOUR WAY TO THE TOP AND THAT'S WHY THEY TOOK IT AWAY AND GAVE YOU GUYS THE L FOR THE WHOLE SEASON….hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

I suggest any of you fans who are playing the "CHEATER" card read the following very carefully especially any fans of teams carrying 12 to 15 or more OOS.  It is hard to brag of "pipelines" and "Polynesian connections" and adhere to the following rules to the letter of the law. I'm guessing the same goes for many of these bounceback players who just happen to make "first contact" and just so happen to fit the teams exact position need.  

CCCAA

2.2 r

EPRESENTATIVES AND AGENTS

2.2.1 all things prohibited by this

Constitution and Bylaws

to colleges, faculty, staff, and

representatives are also prohibited to anyone acting as a representative or agent of the

college; i.e., non-employees, volunteers, alumni, boosters, relatives, friends, students,

and any others speaking for or on behalf of the college and its programs.

2.2.2 an agent is anyone (college staff member, parent/relative/friend of an athlete or college,

alumnus(i), booster, high school coach/teacher, etc.) whose actions are designed to

benefit a certain athletic program. the most common activities of an agent are:

a. Making initial contact with out-of-recruiting-area athletes for the purpose of

recruiting them to a specific athletic program that is outside their recruiting area.

b. Making contact with out-of-recruiting-area coaches and asking them to contact

athletes out of their recruiting area.

c. High school coaches who personally refer and encourage their athletes to attend a

specific out-of-recruiting-area/out-of-state community college and/or contact the outof-

recruiting-area community college on a student’s behalf. 


2.2.3 Agents may be encouraged by an athletic department’s program or they may exist

without the knowledge of the program. In the latter case, as soon as the college becomes

aware of an agent, it must take steps to stop the activity.


2.2.4 only an out-of-recruiting area student athlete can make first person-to-person contact

with a community college. this must be documented (f

ORM

C) at the time of first

contact by the community college staff member contacted.

2.2.5 A college is responsible for the actions of any person acting as an agent of the college.



to be honest - this is just about an impossible standard to follow 100% for any jc team in the modern era of the jc oos player.

but it takes a "pamela dearest" insider before the cccaa has an ounce interest in enforcing any of the above rules. banghead  count your lucky stars.  


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Posted: 05/26/2014 12:36 PM

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acdad . . . Probably not enough resources to adequately police the CC's in CA, and what about other sports . . . Would need a whistle blower, or inside-the-program individual . . . For example, here's what happened at a local H.S. in our area . . .

www.sgvtribune.com/sports/2014...ls-hudl-account

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Posted: 05/26/2014 1:01 PM

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You need a disgruntled coach to go postal!!! LOL

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acdad . . . Probably not enough resources to adequately police the CC's in CA, and what about other sports . . . Would need a whistle blower, or inside-the-program individual . . . For example, here's what happened at a local H.S. in our area . . .

www.sgvtribune.com/sports/2014...ls-hudl-account

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Posted: 05/26/2014 1:41 PM

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It is a policy in place administrated by the SCFA and NCFA but that will never be policed b/c as diablos mentioned.... time, MONEY and personel numbers !!! The only way this is policed is by as Craftsman pointed out...... by a disgruntled,jealous,menopausal female X coach of some insignificant sport that wanted their share of the football programs money !!!!

Add to that a relationship of questionable sorts with the head of the CCCAA........ then you have the perfect storm to become a whistleblower....

The only way this is regulated is by an in house whistle blowers !!!!1

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Posted: 05/26/2014 6:51 PM

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So are you saying that some perfectly content, proud, men football coaches in their prime possibly knew about the violations but didn't report them? That it took, instead, a "disgruntled, jealous, menopausal female coach of an insignificant sport" to report the violations? I think you failed to call her a carpet muncher. Probably an oversight. Honestly, if we were molding lives and the shaping the future, which would we prefer? That coaches who knew things weren't right were reporting it or that female coaches from other sports were reporting it? Oh, I get it.  We'd prefer that it weren't reported at all.

The anger doesn't seem to be pointed at the fact that there was wrongdoing, but at the fact that someone would dare to report it.  I'd prefer to see everyone play it clean, but obviously, that only happens in Fairy Land.

Someone was going to get caught.  It just happened to be Bakersfield.  It was bound to happen to somebody.  I don't think for a moment that everyone is playing it clean, but the ongoing misogynistic comments towards this individual are uncalled for.  Have you guys run her out of town yet?

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Posted: 05/26/2014 7:00 PM

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Spend less time with your sheep and perhaps you will reread what I wrote and be able to comprehend it........ you know nothing about the facts and what actually took place nor of the coaches....

You are always mistruing what happened... I never mentioned a coach in my post.... and to set the record straight for you sheep man.... sworn statements address the issue of what the coaches knew... the CCCAA found no wrong doing by any coach.

As usual.... you have made unjust statements against people that haven`t done anything wrong.... grow up !!!
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