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Should teams have a suggestion box for play calling??
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Posted: 10/21/2012 11:21 AM
Should teams have a suggestion box for play calling??
At VC we got some young guns on the sideline.....  But it has been an eye opener seeing most of the top teams play the last few years. All these teams with all these fast athletes and only a select few can run the ball. I saw 4 of the worst offensive performances yesterday while watching Citrus, RCC, Cerritos and VC. I say lets have a suggestion box and let the fans call some of the plays.........no way we can do any worse......    
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Posted: 10/21/2012 1:50 PM
Re: Should teams have a suggestion box for play calling??
Baseball impressario Bill Veeck tried this once when he owned the Browns. He had fans vote by mail for the staring lineup for a game against the Philadelphia A's, and vote for decisions during the game by holding up "yes" or "no" cards. And the Browns won the game.
Could be the next great promotion for JC football too, eh?
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Posted: 10/21/2012 4:08 PM
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DRinCA wrote: Baseball impressario Bill Veeck tried this once when he owned the Browns. He had fans vote by mail for the staring lineup for a game against the Philadelphia A's, and vote for decisions during the game by holding up "yes" or "no" cards. And the Browns won the game.
Could be the next great promotion for JC football too, eh? I remember Bill Veeck but dont recall that deal. He would try almost anything to get an edge. I do like the idea of holding up a card. I did have a card made that shows how I feel about certain plays........ 
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Posted: 10/21/2012 5:53 PM
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Hek, good thing you didn't take in the Moorpark/Bc game.... you would have seen 2 more sub-par teams BC Moorpark 68 ttl yrds rushing 82 ttl yrds rushing 1.9  rushing avg 2.3 rushing avg Much rather look at your chart than BC STATS PS what P.J. Gremaud said is TRUE
Last edited 10/21/2012 5:55 PM by bcfan1955
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Posted: 10/21/2012 6:19 PM
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Worst offensive performance by RCC in Craft era...  Defense and special teams won the game for us... 
Last edited 10/21/2012 6:20 PM by craftsman2
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Posted: 10/21/2012 7:02 PM
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The rest of PJ Gremauds quote was "I don't care, I'd rather be lucky than good anyways" The Pirates are for real! They win games because they are resilant! All the signs of a Championship team. I guess the Pirates just have to win State to make believers. They way it looks, the Pirates will be 10-0. That's not luck, that's flat out a good football team.
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Posted: 10/21/2012 7:19 PM
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FOOTBALLATTHEBEACH - You are right…..on ALL counts I just like to stimulate the conversation……just ask REFHEKLER
BTW I'm ALL for VC(BUT still a BCfan).......as I cannot see any way BC can make the playoffs
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Posted: 10/21/2012 7:50 PM
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Agreed on both counts, RCC defense really works hard and have a ton of speed!! craftsman2 wrote: Worst offensive performance by RCC in Craft era...
Defense and special teams won the game for us...
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Posted: 10/21/2012 7:54 PM
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Being a great JC football coach is probably like a lot of other things, easier said than done. In a 2 year system, any major changes in offensive or defensive strategies and a coach loses whatever advantage a team might have with their sophomores, who learned the system last year. I look at the offensive strategies of teams like VC, SAC, RCC, SB, Cerritos etc. I like what I see. When the offence is set, there is at least some strategic tension for a defense as to what they might do.
BC lines up with 2 tight ends on first and second down and runs it up the middle. We’re a north and south running team by gum. What do defenses do? They put 8 in the box. That’s how BC, having 2 of the best running backs in the NC, comes up with 68 yards rushing against a team like Moorpark.
I guess the grass is always greener……….. Arm chair QBs, we're the best! 
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Posted: 10/21/2012 11:12 PM
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BC has been running north and south for as long as I've been a fan...and that's a very long time. AND it works when we have all the ducks in a row to run the ball We've had only two sub 100 yard games (1 loss to MtSac-64 yrds- 7/0 and 1 win against Moorpark - 68 yrds-2/6) so far this year. The other 5 games: 130 yrds - Santa Ana 6/2 260 yrds - Fullerson 4/3 201 yrds - Ventura 8/0 268 yrds - Canyons 2/5 135 yrds - Elco 2/6
I know why we had only 64 yrds against MtSac - They were just to good for us But only 68 yrds at Moorpark????????????? At 2/6.....we played down to them.
ACDAD...would you say it might be worth a down season to change our offence? Or just keep having a down season after season, after season?
I know, how about bringing back the Old East High Single Wing (At least I would know what's going on)
AND there would be no need for Arm chair QBs, as the QB in a single wing was a blocking back most of the time (never getting the ball). AND in the Double-wing variation there was NO QB
Last edited 10/21/2012 11:25 PM by bcfan1955
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Posted: 10/22/2012 9:03 AM
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BCFan wrote: ACDAD...would you say it might be worth a down season to change our offence? Or just keep having a down season after season, after season?
Bottom line is, I think BC needs to get out and recruit some size and depth in our offensive and defensive lines and we can play any offense we want. Weak line play is a perennial problem for BC. Our outstanding QB needs some time and our great running backs need some holes.
We have a playoff grade team this year, so I can’t complain too much. We played undefeated VC head to head even for 4 quarters + 3.99 overtimes. I give us even odds to beat Cerritos this weekend 4:00 at home and I think BC has the weapons to beat AHC this year.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 9:06 AM
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sounds about right. So you can put your recruiting tip is the "suggestion box?"   acdad0330 wrote:BCFan wrote: ACDAD...would you say it might be worth a down season to change our offence? Or just keep having a down season after season, after season?
Bottom line is, I think BC needs to get out and recruit some size and depth in our offensive and defensive lines and we can play any offense we want. Weak line play is a perennial problem for BC. Our outstanding QB needs some time and our great running backs need some holes.
We have a playoff grade team this year, so I can’t complain too much. We played undefeated VC head to head even for 4 quarters + 3.99 overtimes. I give us even odds to beat Cerritos this weekend 4:00 at home and I think BC has the weapons to beat AHC this year.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 10:16 AM
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BC will not recruit. They know what we BC fans think, we Email them. That’s why I say.…..We have a playoff grade team this year, so I can’t complain too much. They charge $7 for all of the close parking on the new home side now. The $7 close parking area sits two thirds empty during the game. They know what we think, THEY are satisfied with things the way they are.
Admittedly alot of this stuff is damed if you do and damned if you don't for the coaches and administration.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 11:52 AM
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But BC does recruit. Hollis, and wide receivers, db's are out of state guys. Big deal, this is college. How can a school say they wont recruit when they have 8-10 guys that are studs? Do you really think they just stumbled across BC on the internet and called Chudy?? Chudy has friends that are coaches in texas and other places that recomend players. If you or anyone else try and compare to Mt Sac, you might be disapointed..  But your team is a very solid team. Probably my favorite playing style that I have seen so for to date this year. I am just hoping for a bowl game every year.......    acdad0330 wrote:BC will not recruit. They know what we BC fans think, we Email them. That’s why I say.…..We have a playoff grade team this year, so I can’t complain too much. They charge $7 for all of the close parking on the new home side now. The $7 close parking area sits two thirds empty during the game. They know what we think, THEY are satisfied with things the way they are.
Admittedly alot of this stuff is damed if you do and damned if you don't for the coaches and administration.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 3:15 PM
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Heckler: To be honest I don’t know how any of the teams actually handle their dealings with OOS players. I have intuitive guesses, but they are a dime a dozen. What BC has said publically about OOS recruiting is that they are very picky about whom they take OOS and they don’t have any intensions of increasing the # of OOS from the normal 10 any time soon. This year’s BC team is actually the best we have had in a while. We played undefeated VC even to 3.9 overtimes, and lost to MS by more than our usual 10-14 points. BC was ready for the MS spread; the Gades picked Montana 3 times in the first half. BC scored first (7) and were 1st and 3 yards away from going up 14-0 and didn’t get it in. After that MS went with a solid running game attack, which BC clearly was not ready for.
I’m guessing 2 new teams VC and RCC will probably make the playoffs this year. It will be interesting to see how they size up against SAC and whoever? from the National South.
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Posted: 10/23/2012 10:32 AM
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Posted: 10/28/2012 12:23 PM
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