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This is why Stoops will never coach at Iowa

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Posted: 7/3/2014 4:58 PM

This is why Stoops will never coach at Iowa 


http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/...ght-move-for-ou

If Stoops ever considered bringing this guy to Iowa there would be an uproar from the local media, school president, board of regents, you name it.  Only at places like Oklahoma where the win at all costs without any regard for academics approach is considered ok could Stoops get away with this.
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Posted: 7/3/2014 5:16 PM

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I agree.  There are far too many possible student/athletes who play by the rules  to recruit these guys who will only be around till a better offer comes along.  We have one of the best player development coaches around and if the kids stick it out, it's a "win,win" for all.
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Posted: 7/4/2014 12:35 AM

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That's one example of why Stoops will never coach at Iowa.  And why he would not duplicate his results at Oklahoma if he did.

Here is another...

http://newsok.com/ou-football-...article/3897193

http://www.hawkeyesports.com/s.../120913aaa.html

And going back a couple of years to show this is not a new thing for Oklahoma (or the Big 12)...

http://stanford.scout.com/stor...n-rate-analysis
Hilton Magic-where Hoiberg the magician makes scholarships disappear. D Buckley,C Boozer,L Dendy,B Palo,E McKnight,D Phillips,C Godfrey,T Sledge,N Okoro,R Amardi,KJ Bluford, & P Gibson approve this message.
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Posted: 7/4/2014 1:19 AM

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LMFAO! This is maybe the best thing I've seen on this site. You're certifiably nuts if you think Stoops or any other coach wouldn't get away with this at Iowa, given the numbers he has put up. 10 wins a year and NC contention every year will make for a whole lot of blind regents, presidents and fans. 

lol...this is just too funny to believe.  excited

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Posted: 7/4/2014 8:50 AM

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I'm afraid you are the nut.  Admission standards between the Big 10 and the Big 12 are very very different.  Stoops can get players admitted to Oklahoma that would never get into school at Iowa or any other Big 10 school.
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Posted: 7/4/2014 3:44 PM

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Oklahoma has the worst Graduation Success Rate in the Big 12 for football.  Not because their academics stink, but because they admit players who have no intent or any interest in being students and it drags the GSR down for the whole team.  Iowa would not admit nor would be forced to admit these kinds of student athletes.  Iowa's GSR of 81% is proof of this, third best in the Big Ten for football.  Stoops would not go anywhere where his ability to recruit is limited by admission standards, even his beloved alma mater.

GSR for Oklahoma:

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/newmedia/public/rates/inde x.html

GSR for Iowa:

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/newmedia/public/rates/inde x.html
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Posted: 7/4/2014 7:47 PM

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Am I reading this right?  If you screw up really bad and get kicked off of a team you don't have to sit out a year but if you screw up enough to maybe lose your starting spot and you leave a team you have to sit out a year?  Guessing some of our guys that left should have smacked a cop on the way out of town to get kicked off rather than just leave.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:20 AM

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Dude will NEVER play for OU.  Their waiver request will get shot down and then DGB will, after sitting out the 14' season (but practicing with the team) will declare for the draft. 

If I were an OU fan, I'd be embarrassed.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:46 AM

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WizardHawk wrote:

LMFAO! This is maybe the best thing I've seen on this site. You're certifiably nuts if you think Stoops or any other coach wouldn't get away with this at Iowa, given the numbers he has put up. 10 wins a year and NC contention every year will make for a whole lot of blind regents, presidents and fans. 

lol...this is just too funny to believe.  excited

I think I have to agree with WizardHawk here...
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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:54 AM

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Griff22 wrote:
WizardHawk wrote:

LMFAO! This is maybe the best thing I've seen on this site. You're certifiably nuts if you think Stoops or any other coach wouldn't get away with this at Iowa, given the numbers he has put up. 10 wins a year and NC contention every year will make for a whole lot of blind regents, presidents and fans. 

lol...this is just too funny to believe.  excited

I think I have to agree with WizardHawk here...

Well, believe it or not, it seems there are actually quite a few OU fans that are NOT enamored with Stoops' decision on this matter.  Apparently, some people DO have some principle.  I presume there are "many" Iowa fans that would NOT be happy as well.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 9:26 AM

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WizardHawk wrote:

LMFAO! This is maybe the best thing I've seen on this site. You're certifiably nuts if you think Stoops or any other coach wouldn't get away with this at Iowa, given the numbers he has put up. 10 wins a year and NC contention every year will make for a whole lot of blind regents, presidents and fans. 

lol...this is just too funny to believe.  excited

So what you're saying is, if Iowa wins enough games on the field, people will look the other way when athletes get into trouble or have academic shortcomings?

Did Iowa's success from 02-04 change how guys like Dominique Douglas, Anthony Bowman, or Cedric Everson were dealt with?
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Posted: 7/7/2014 10:56 AM

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Griff22 wrote:
WizardHawk wrote:

LMFAO! This is maybe the best thing I've seen on this site. You're certifiably nuts if you think Stoops or any other coach wouldn't get away with this at Iowa, given the numbers he has put up. 10 wins a year and NC contention every year will make for a whole lot of blind regents, presidents and fans. 

lol...this is just too funny to believe.  excited

I think I have to agree with WizardHawk here...




What "people" are we talking about here?

Will some fans look the other way if Stoops says he will win 10 or 11 games a year? Probably.

Will Jim Delaney say "okay with me" if Stoops says he needs to violate Big Ten eligibility rules in order to win 10 or 11 games a year? Evidently wizardhawk & griff22 think so. But I doubt it.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 12:42 AM

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Every fan base has its share of folks that would be absolutely giddy to have Charles Manson on their roster if he could run a 4.4 and had good hands.  The shocking part is when university presidents, regents, ad's and coaches are down with it too. 



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Posted: 7/8/2014 8:53 AM

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My point was...if DGB wanted to consider Iowa I'd think the majority of us would be willing to give this guy a change in scenery and a 2nd chance.  I'm not saying let him continue to get in trouble and still play, but simply allow him to better himself.  I would love to see this talent consider the Hawkeyes, bad apple or not.  The original post was knocking Stoops for giving this guy a chance and that our almighty Hawkeyes sit on a higher pedestal.  I'm pretty sure the regents, president, fans, etc. could care less what he did in the past as long as he's not causing problems at OU, same as if he would actually consider Iowa.  What is there to lose?  If he screws up once he's gone, if he doesn't screw up you have a top 3 receiver in the county...sounds like a win/win to me... 

K9Buck wrote:
Griff22 wrote:
WizardHawk wrote:

LMFAO! This is maybe the best thing I've seen on this site. You're certifiably nuts if you think Stoops or any other coach wouldn't get away with this at Iowa, given the numbers he has put up. 10 wins a year and NC contention every year will make for a whole lot of blind regents, presidents and fans. 

lol...this is just too funny to believe.  excited

I think I have to agree with WizardHawk here...

Well, believe it or not, it seems there are actually quite a few OU fans that are NOT enamored with Stoops' decision on this matter.  Apparently, some people DO have some principle.  I presume there are "many" Iowa fans that would NOT be happy as well.

Last edited 7/8/2014 11:40 AM by Griff22

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Posted: 7/9/2014 1:31 PM

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Why would we not want to give a struggling player a second chance?  Is compassion no longer a part of Iowa's ethics?  The kid's repentance sounds sincere.  Give him a chance.  Good job Stoops!

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Posted: 7/9/2014 5:00 PM

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Oh, I'm all for second chances.  Lord knows I've had plenty in my time.  The kicker here, however, is that DGB was kicked off the team after numerous "chances" and now OU is welcoming him with open arms (fine) and applying for a waiver so that he can play immediately.  Please correct me if I am mistaken but it's my understanding that the final straw occurred after DGB, allegedly, pushed a woman down some stairs.  So, he gets kicked off and OU says (in effect) "No problem, come on over here and we'll try to get you eligible to play immediately".  Therein lies the rub.
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Posted: 7/9/2014 5:53 PM

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theiowahawkeye wrote: Why would we not want to give a struggling player a second chance?  Is compassion no longer a part of Iowa's ethics?  The kid's repentance sounds sincere.  Give him a chance.  Good job Stoops!

Compassion...lol.  Ask Anthony Bowman, Abe Satterfield, Cedric Everson, and Dominique Douglas if Ferentz has any compassion.  As soon as these thugs were found guilty they were booted.  Alford had a great deal of compassion for Pierre Pierce...enough to give him three chances.  Look where it got him. Besides, it isn't compassion that compels Stoops to sign this kid, it is the video game-like stats Beckham can put up for his team and the fact that academics are a distant second in priority at Oklahoma.
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