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Athlon projects B1G Standings for 2014

Posted: 6/6/2014 1:01 AM

Athlon projects B1G Standings for 2014 


There is a ton of information here:  http://athlonsports.com/colleg...wYa3EYI.twitter

For Iowa specifically, go here:  http://athlonsports.com/colleg...6-iowa-hawkeyes

Bottom line, here is what they predict. Agree? Disagree?  Note that they think tOSU will make the college football playoff.

Personally, I think with Iowa's overall schedule and with having both Wisconsin and Nebraska at home, I will be very disappointed if we don't win the West and advance to the B1G title game.  And from there?  On a neutral field, against the East Champion (most likely Ohio State), I think anything is possible.  We hung with Ohio State last year at their place so why couldn't we knock them off on a neutral field? 


East


7-1  12-1  Ohio state (projected to make College Football playoff)
7-1  10-2  Mich State
6-2  10-2  Penn State
5-3  8-4   Michigan
3-5  6-6  Maryland
2-6  5-7  Indiana
1-7  4-8  Rutgers

Key games:

Ohio State at Michigan State

West

7-1  10-3  Wisconsin
6-2  9-3  Iowa
5-3  9-3  Nebraska
3-5  6-6  Northwestern
3-5  6-6  Minnesota
1-7  4-8  Illinois
0-8  3-9  Purdue

B1G Championship

 
Ohio State over Wisconsin


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Comments on specific teams:

The debate at No. 1 in the East Division will dominate the headlines.

Michigan State is the defending conference champion, but the Spartans have key holes to fill:

*  Lock down cornerback Darqueze Dennard needs to be replaced.
*  Two starting linebackers (including Max Bullough) need to be replaced.
*   Both Defensive starting tackles need to be replaced.
*  The Spartans have to also replace 3 starters on the Offensive Line.

Even though Michigan State has won two out of the last three games against Ohio State, the Buckeyes are Athlon's pick to win the Big Ten in 2014.


Ohio State

Quarterback Braxton Miller is among the nation’s best players, and coach Urban Meyer has assembled plenty of talent at the skill positions. Ohio State also has the nation’s No. 1 defensive line for 2014. Filling the holes in the back seven of the defense is critical for the Buckeyes’ chances of making an appearance in college football’s four-team playoff.

Penn State and Michigan are the two wildcard teams to watch in the East. New coach James Franklin inherits a solid roster, especially with sophomore quarterback Christian Hackenberg on the verge of a huge season. The biggest obstacle for the Nittany Lions will be an offensive line that is thin on proven depth.

Michigan also has plenty of talent, but the Wolverines underachieved in 2013. Will the hire of Doug Nussmeier as offensive coordinator resurrect an offense that averaged less than 100 rushing yards per game last year? Quarterback Devin Gardner needs to be more consistent and more targets need to emerge at receiver.

Indiana is another team that could easily outperform its projected ranking, but the Hoosiers have a brutal schedule, along with a struggling defense. If Indiana can find answers on defense under new coordinator Brian Knorr, the Hoosiers should make a bowl for the first time under Kevin Wilson.

Despite returning only eight starters, Wisconsin is Athlon’s favorite to win the Big Ten’s West Division. The Badgers’ passing attack is a work in progress, but running back Melvin Gordon can carry the offense until new receivers emerge. The defense does not return a starter in its front seven.

Just behind Wisconsin in the West Division is Iowa and Nebraska. There’s not much separating the Hawkeyes and Cornhuskers for the No. 2 spot. Iowa has a favorable schedule and will have a chance to win the division with Nebraska and Wisconsin both visiting Iowa City in late November.

Northwestern and Minnesota are darkhorses to watch, especially as the Wildcats regain the services of standout running back Venric Mark.

Illinois and Purdue round out the West Division predictions for 2014. Both teams are looking for signs of progress after a disappointing 2013, and there are reasons to be optimistic for the Boilermakers and Fighting Illini. However, considerable improvement needs to be made before either team makes a bowl game this year.



Wisconsin lost a lot of key personnel yet is still the pick for No. 1 in the West. Was there much debate?





Not really. Wisconsin still returns Melvin Gordon and four starters on the offensive line. That’s the perfect recipe for the Badgers to win games.

In addition, being the best team in the Big Ten West doesn’t necessarily make Wisconsin one of the best teams in the league. The Badgers are our third-ranked team in the Big Ten overall, behind Ohio State and Michigan State.

Simply put, most of the West simply has more obvious flaws than Wisconsin, which ranked in the top 20 nationally in both total offense and total defense a year ago. We’re not quite ready to cast our lot with either Nebraska or Iowa or a sleeper like Minnesota or Northwestern to win the division.



Michigan and Nebraska are both storied programs picked to finish in the middle of the pack. Which team is more likely to surprise in a good way?








That’s a tough question and probably a symptom of why these powers have been so infuriating of late. Michigan was actually plus-10 in turnover margin during the last nine games and still finished the season on a 3–6 slide. Clearly, Michigan has its share of holes to fill.

Nebraska might be more likely to surprise. For one, we expect the West to be the weaker of the two new Big Ten divisions. Nebraska has the bread-and-butter of its offense in place with Ameer Abdullah and Imani Cross running the ball, and the Cornhuskers managed to win nine games despite quarterback injuries and turnover problems (minus-11 margin) a year ago. If things start to go Nebraska’s way, the Cornhuskers may be in a better position to make noise in the Big Ten title race. 

See the whole article here:  http://athlonsports.com/colleg...wYa3EYI.twitter


Previewing your IOWA HAWKEYES:






#26 Iowa Hawkeyes

NATIONAL FORECAST

#26

Big Ten West PREDICTION

#2

head coach: kirk ferentz, 120-100 (18 years) | off. coordinator: greg davis | def. coordinator: phil parker



The 2014 college football season starts on Aug. 27 and continues into mid-January with the first edition of the four-team playoff. Athlon Sports is counting down until kickoff with projections and previews for all 128 FBS teams. Here is our team preview for No. 26 Iowa. 

Previewing Iowa’s Offense for 2014:

Unlike this time last season, there is reason to be optimistic about the Iowa offense. Six starters return, including quarterback Jake Rudock, leading rusher Mark Weisman, leading receiver Kevonte Martin-Manley and potential All-America left tackle Brandon Scherff.


Rudock passed for 2,383 yards and 18 touchdowns last season, helping Iowa double its win total from the disastrous 2012 season with an 8–5 record. Hardly a dual-threat quarterback, Rudock showed surprising mobility before being hobbled by a knee injury down the stretch. His biggest flaw was the tendency to force passes into coverage, which resulted in 13 interceptions.


Iowa is loaded at running back, and Scherff is among three starters returning on the offensive line, which is traditionally a strength for the Hawkeyes under veteran coach Kirk Ferentz. The 236-pound Weisman led the team with 975 rushing yards last season, using a bruising style that fits nicely in Iowa’s power running scheme. Junior Jordan Canzeri and senior Damon Bullock rushed for 481 and 467 yards, respectively, last season. Both are more elusive than Weisman, while Bullock is also a threat as a receiver. LeShun Daniels, a 6'0", 230-pound sophomore, is also an intriguing option.

There is a void at tight end with C.J. Fiedorowicz having moved on. But much like the offensive line, tight end is traditionally a stable position for the Hawkeyes, and that’s the expectation for this season. Senior Ray Hamilton and junior Jake Duzey are among four tight ends with extensive game experience.


Previewing Iowa’s Defense for 2014:

Six starters have to be replaced, including all three linebackers and an All-Big Ten cornerback. It’ll be a daunting task, made easier by the presence of two standout tackles. Senior Carl Davis was one of the most improved players on the team last season, earning second-team All-Big Ten honors after being a reserve in 2012. Fellow senior tackle Louis Trinca-Pasat also progressed throughout last season, his first as a full-time starter.

However, he and Davis won’t have the luxury of playing with three senior standout linebackers, as was the case last season. Senior Quinton Alston has waited three seasons to replace James Morris at middle linebacker and now finally has that opportunity. Alston made an impact on special teams last season, in addition to being a key part to a new rush package that was installed in 2013.

Replacing All-Big Ten cornerback B.J. Lowery is a priority, but the Hawkeyes also might have a star in the making at that position in sophomore Desmond King. He started every game last season and finished sixth on the team with 69 tackles to go along with eight pass break-ups. Senior strong safety John Lowdermilk also returns after starting all 13 games last season.

Previewing Iowa’s Specialists for 2014:


Martin-Manley is a reliable punt returner, and there plenty of candidates to return kicks. The kicking game, however, is a concern. Mike Meyer has moved on after handling the placekicking duties the past four seasons. Walk-on Marshall Koehn was listed as the starter throughout spring practice, but incoming freshman Mick Ellis will be given a chance to win the job. Junior punter Connor Kornbrath is back, but he struggled with consistency, so the staff signed junior college prospect Dillon Kidd to compete with him. 

Final Analysis

Many of the pieces are in place for Iowa to continue this latest resurgence under Ferentz, especially on offense. Combine that with a schedule that doesn’t include Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan or Penn State, and has Iowa State, Wisconsin and Nebraska coming to Kinnick Stadium, and there is reason to believe Iowa can be a legitimate contender in the new Big Ten West Division.

Source:  http://athlonsports.com/colleg...6-iowa-hawkeyes







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Dec 31, 2013: RPI = 37; Strength of
Sched = 112; Rank: #22 in AP; #23 Coaches

We will go 14-4 in the B1G (25-6 overall)...or better =)  

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So they assume that they lose one non-conference (presumably Pittsburgh), lose to either Nebraska or Wisconsin, and then one game we shouldn't.

Although I hope for better, this is about what I would expect from the season. Not a terribly unrealistic prediction
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2015178 wrote: So they assume that they lose one non-conference (presumably Pittsburgh), lose to either Nebraska or Wisconsin, and then one game we shouldn't.

Although I hope for better, this is about what I would expect from the season. Not a terribly unrealistic prediction
I think it would stink if we lose 3 games given our schedule and who we play at home.

But we traditionally seem to lose a nonconference game so the game at Pitt is a big time concern. 

Teams like N'western, Minnesota (we play up there again!), and now Indiana (with their high power offense) have given us fits recently, as well. 

So who the heck knows; one thing I know for sure; this Iowa team can't look past anyone and if they stay healthy and given their schedule, it could be a special, very memorable season.


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Dec 31, 2013: RPI = 37; Strength of
Sched = 112; Rank: #22 in AP; #23 Coaches

We will go 14-4 in the B1G (25-6 overall)...or better =)  
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Agree that Pitt, NW and Indy are all trap games. Still think we win 10 though.
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I really don't think Kinnick is what it used to be to opposing teams and this is primarily due to the lack of noise and the student section being empty the last 2-3 years. Hopefully they will get behind this team and have Kinnick rocking again! Go Hawks!
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EUROhawk wrote: Agree that Pitt, NW and Indy are all trap games. Still think we win 10 though.
They are, but shouldn't be.
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HawkeyeMike2 wrote: I really don't think Kinnick is what it used to be to opposing teams and this is primarily due to the lack of noise and the student section being empty the last 2-3 years. Hopefully they will get behind this team and have Kinnick rocking again! Go Hawks!

I couldn't say about Kinnick as I haven't been to a game at Kinnick under the KF regime.  But, if you are correct, then it could also be due to being 3 games over .500 (overall record) that past 4 seasons, combined.
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After 3 seasons of "rebuilding" the program, at what point can we fans rely on an Iowa team to be dominant? I belive we have 8 starters returning on offense and 7 starters returning on defense. So Athlon is saying that WUs' 8 returning starters (4 each on offense/defense) are better than our 15 returning starters and their 13 new starters are better than our 6 new starters? If WUs' program is that much better than Iowa's, then KF has a problem. Now I understand this is their "opinion" and I don't believe they're close to being right. But, if this is the "reputation" each program has, then we can expect recruits to hear or believe this. That makes recruiting even that much more difficult. 

The only game that concerns me is the roadie at PITT. Iowa should win their B1G games. I don't know how it can be argued that there is a loss on Iowa's schedule in the B1G.
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EUROhawk wrote: Agree that Pitt, NW and Indy are all trap games. Still think we win 10 though.
man, i hope you are right; where do you think our 2 losses come from?  to me, its almost like put our last 9 opponents in a bag and pull out 2 teams and those are our 2 losses....

our schedule:

Date Opponent Result
Aug. 30 Northern Iowa TBA
Sep. 6 Ball State TBA
Sep. 13 Iowa State TBA
Sep. 20 at Pittsburgh TBA
Sep. 27 at Purdue 11:00am
Oct. 11 Indiana 11:00am
Oct. 18 at Maryland 11:00am
Nov. 1 Northwestern TBA
Nov. 8 at Minnesota TBA
Nov. 15 at Illinois TBA
Nov. 22 Wisconsin TBA
Nov. 28 Nebraska TBA


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Dec 31, 2013: RPI = 37; Strength of
Sched = 112; Rank: #22 in AP; #23 Coaches

We will go 14-4 in the B1G (25-6 overall)...or better =)  
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ArvadaHawk wrote:
EUROhawk wrote: Agree that Pitt, NW and Indy are all trap games. Still think we win 10 though.
They are, but shouldn't be.
everybody has to be on the same page and physically and mentally ready to go


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Dec 31, 2013: RPI = 37; Strength of
Sched = 112; Rank: #22 in AP; #23 Coaches

We will go 14-4 in the B1G (25-6 overall)...or better =)  
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tbonehawkeye wrote:
2015178 wrote: So they assume that they lose one non-conference (presumably Pittsburgh), lose to either Nebraska or Wisconsin, and then one game we shouldn't.

Although I hope for better, this is about what I would expect from the season. Not a terribly unrealistic prediction
I think it would stink if we lose 3 games given our schedule and who we play at home.

But we traditionally seem to lose a nonconference game so the game at Pitt is a big time concern. 

Teams like N'western, Minnesota (we play up there again!), and now Indiana (with their high power offense) have given us fits recently, as well. 

So who the heck knows; one thing I know for sure; this Iowa team can't look past anyone and if they stay healthy and given their schedule, it could be a special, very memorable season.
That statement pretty much some's it up......well said!
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Taztigerhwk wrote:
tbonehawkeye wrote:
2015178 wrote: So they assume that they lose one non-conference (presumably Pittsburgh), lose to either Nebraska or Wisconsin, and then one game we shouldn't.

Although I hope for better, this is about what I would expect from the season. Not a terribly unrealistic prediction
I think it would stink if we lose 3 games given our schedule and who we play at home.

But we traditionally seem to lose a nonconference game so the game at Pitt is a big time concern. 

Teams like N'western, Minnesota (we play up there again!), and now Indiana (with their high power offense) have given us fits recently, as well. 

So who the heck knows; one thing I know for sure; this Iowa team can't look past anyone and if they stay healthy and given their schedule, it could be a special, very memorable season.
That statement pretty much some's it up......well said!
we just cant have games like 2 years ago when we lost 2 starting offensive lineman (season ending injuries) in the same game.....and we all know that helped snow ball into a 4 win season


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Dec 31, 2013: RPI = 37; Strength of
Sched = 112; Rank: #22 in AP; #23 Coaches

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Personally, I feel that it's their job to get the crowd loud and make us have something to be proud of.  It's the way of the world man.  Put a good product out there and a fanbase like Iowa's will support it loud and proud.  Outside of one, maybe two with Greene, really good seasons over the last decade...why expect the fans to bring it when the team hasn't at times?

People should want championships, or else what's the point?  2009 didn't have problems with the crowd being quiet.  Like I said, they need to make us get behind them, not the other way around.
HawkeyeMike2 wrote: I really don't think Kinnick is what it used to be to opposing teams and this is primarily due to the lack of noise and the student section being empty the last 2-3 years. Hopefully they will get behind this team and have Kinnick rocking again! Go Hawks!

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We have to find an explosive play makers on O- both WR and RB.  If we do that and avoid injuries we can be very good.   A few injuries in the OL or DL we can start losing a number of games.
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We have to find an explosive play makers on O- both WR and RB.  If we do that and avoid injuries we can be very good.   A few injuries in the OL or DL we can start losing a number of games.

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I think this assessment is pretty accurate. We are not a Mich or O$U; therefore, we don't have a bench full of ready now reserves. I would be highly disappointed if we lost three games this year, but lately, KF's teams have underachieved when they have been expected to do much better.
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floridahawk wrote:


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We have to find an explosive play makers on O- both WR and RB.  If we do that and avoid injuries we can be very good.   A few injuries in the OL or DL we can start losing a number of games.

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I think this assessment is pretty accurate. We are not a Mich or O$U; therefore, we don't have a bench full of ready now reserves. I would be highly disappointed if we lost three games this year, but lately, KF's teams have underachieved when they have been expected to do much better.
In my opinion, the good news is that I think we do have playmakers on offense.  I think Willies and T. Smith at WR, Hamilton/Duzey at TE and Canzeri/Daniels/(hopefully fr. Smith) are explosion type players.  I would love to see a injury free year on the OL, but, other than Scherff and the C position, I think we've got capbable backups.  KF needs to let the offense take off this season and not try to "manage" games, like in the past.  Just go for it.  He can't get fired, so just go for it, let it all hang out there on offense.  We do seem to have the talent to accomplish some very good things.
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2015178 wrote: So they assume that they lose one non-conference (presumably Pittsburgh), lose to either Nebraska or Wisconsin, and then one game we shouldn't.

Although I hope for better, this is about what I would expect from the season. Not a terribly unrealistic prediction
While I do that their prognostician is 'not a terribly unrealistic prediction'........my own Prediction is for the
IOWA HAWKEYES to win their Division of the Big Ten in 2014.

Get ready to Rock n Roll Hawkeye fans !  cool
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About where I would have things as well. The most obvious over-shoot that I see is Penn State at 10-2. I think they are giving James Franklin a little too much credit considering he hasn't coached one game at Penn State yet.
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hoxrock wrote: About where I would have things as well. The most obvious over-shoot that I see is Penn State at 10-2. I think they are giving James Franklin a little too much credit considering he hasn't coached one game at Penn State yet.
But then again, look at PSU's schedule; @Michigan and Mich State and Ohio State at home are their only potential losses IMO

Date Opponent* Result Record
Aug. 30, 2014 at UCF 7:30 am CT | Tickets    
Sept. 6, 2014 Akron TBA | Tickets    
Sept. 13, 2014 at Rutgers 7:00 pm CT | Tickets    
Sept. 20, 2014 Massachusetts TBA | Tickets    
Sept. 27, 2014 Northwestern 11:00 am CT | Tickets    
Oct. 11, 2014 at Michigan 6:00 pm CT | Tickets    
Oct. 25, 2014 Ohio State 7:00 pm CT | Tickets    
Nov. 1, 2014 Maryland TBA | Tickets    
Nov. 8, 2014 at Indiana TBA | Tickets    
Nov. 15, 2014 Temple TBA | Tickets    
Nov. 22, 2014 at Illinois TBA | Tickets    
Nov. 29, 2014 Michigan State TBA | Tickets    


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Dec 31, 2013: RPI = 37; Strength of
Sched = 112; Rank: #22 in AP; #23 Coaches

We will go 14-4 in the B1G (25-6 overall)...or better =)  
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floridahawk wrote:


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We have to find an explosive play makers on O- both WR and RB.  If we do that and avoid injuries we can be very good.   A few injuries in the OL or DL we can start losing a number of games.

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I think this assessment is pretty accurate. We are not a Mich or O$U; therefore, we don't have a bench full of ready now reserves. I would be highly disappointed if we lost three games this year, but lately, KF's teams have underachieved when they have been expected to do much better.
the only way to make our B1G schedule more easy is to have Rutgers (instead of IU) as one of our cross over games; we have Maryland as one of those cross over games, of course.

i agree; if we lose 3 or more games this year, everyone should be disappointed because our schedule is pretty dang easy (no Michigan, Mich State, Penn State, Ohio State)


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Sched = 112; Rank: #22 in AP; #23 Coaches

We will go 14-4 in the B1G (25-6 overall)...or better =)  

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tbonehawkeye wrote:



Personally, I think with Iowa's overall schedule and with having both Wisconsin and Nebraska at home, I will be very disappointed if we don't win the West and advance to the B1G title game.  And from there?  On a neutral field, against the East Champion (most likely Ohio State), I think anything is possible.  We hung with Ohio State last year at their place so why couldn't we knock them off on a neutral field? 






I will not "be very disappointed if we don't win the West . . . "  The western division championship is a high bar. But I do think Iowa ought to win the West. 

I have Iowa favored in every game except Nebraska and Wisconsin which I have as toss-ups. But it also appears to me that every team except Purdue and Illinois have the capability of defeating Iowa. And even Illinois might have that capability since they have the most returning starters in the Big Ten.

It is unlikely Iowa can defeat Ohio State in the  championship game because they are Ohio State, and this is Iowa. Iowa very seldom defeats Ohio St. And Ohio State has Braxton Miller, probably the 2nd best QB in NCAA football in 2014.

I do not understand why there is so much love for MSU for 2014. MSU has a lot of losses from last year's team. Michigan has a lot of people back. I suspect Michigan will be 2nd in the East.
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Hawkinole wrote:
tbonehawkeye wrote:



Personally, I think with Iowa's overall schedule and with having both Wisconsin and Nebraska at home, I will be very disappointed if we don't win the West and advance to the B1G title game.  And from there?  On a neutral field, against the East Champion (most likely Ohio State), I think anything is possible.  We hung with Ohio State last year at their place so why couldn't we knock them off on a neutral field? 






I will not "be very disappointed if we don't win the West . . . "  The western division championship is a high bar. But I do think Iowa ought to win the West. 

I have Iowa favored in every game except Nebraska and Wisconsin which I have as toss-ups. But it also appears to me that every team except Purdue and Illinois have the capability of defeating Iowa. And even Illinois might have that capability since they have the most returning starters in the Big Ten.

It is unlikely Iowa can defeat Ohio State in the  championship game because they are Ohio State, and this is Iowa. Iowa very seldom defeats Ohio St. And Ohio State has Braxton Miller, probably the 2nd best QB in NCAA football in 2014.

I do not understand why there is so much love for MSU for 2014. MSU has a lot of losses from last year's team. Michigan has a lot of people back. I suspect Michigan will be 2nd in the East.
yeah, MSU has a lot of holes to fill; not sure what they have back from last year to fill in the holes

if Michigan finishes 4th in their division, will Brady Hoke survive?

Michigan's schedule, I see these as probable losses:  @ND; @MSU; @OSU.....so that puts them at 9-3, 6-2 B1G; Athlon has them at 8-4, 5-3, so they must see them losing to PSU at home?

Date Opponent* Result Record
Aug. 30, 2014 Appalachian St. TBA | Tickets    
Sept. 6, 2014 at Notre Dame 6:30 pm CT | Tickets    
Sept. 13, 2014 Miami-OH TBA | Tickets    
Sept. 20, 2014 Utah TBA | Tickets    
Sept. 27, 2014 Minnesota TBA | Tickets    
Oct. 4, 2014 at Rutgers 6:00 pm CT | Tickets    
Oct. 11, 2014 Penn State 6:00 pm CT | Tickets    
Oct. 25, 2014 at Michigan State TBA | Tickets    
Nov. 1, 2014 Indiana 2:30 pm CT | Tickets    
Nov. 8, 2014 at Northwestern TBA | Tickets    
Nov. 22, 2014 Maryland TBA | Tickets    
Nov. 29, 2014 at Ohio State TBA | Tickets


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Dec 31, 2013: RPI = 37; Strength of
Sched = 112; Rank: #22 in AP; #23 Coaches

We will go 14-4 in the B1G (25-6 overall)...or better =)  

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ArvadaHawk wrote: After 3 seasons of "rebuilding" the program, at what point can we fans rely on an Iowa team to be dominant? I belive we have 8 starters returning on offense and 7 starters returning on defense. So Athlon is saying that WUs' 8 returning starters (4 each on offense/defense) are better than our 15 returning starters and their 13 new starters are better than our 6 new starters? If WUs' program is that much better than Iowa's, then KF has a problem. Now I understand this is their "opinion" and I don't believe they're close to being right. But, if this is the "reputation" each program has, then we can expect recruits to hear or believe this. That makes recruiting even that much more difficult. 

The only game that concerns me is the roadie at PITT. Iowa should win their B1G games. I don't know how it can be argued that there is a loss on Iowa's schedule in the B1G.
Pitt loses their starting QB.  How often does a new starting QB dominate a game this early in the season.  They lose one of their top WR's, 2 OL, 2 DL, LB, CB, SS...and their back up QB was a RS Freshmen.   I like Iowa's chances against Pitt.  We have all 4 DL starters returning.  Alston and Spearman played plenty of minutes, and King will go up against Pitt's #1 WR.    Our offense should be better than last year...especially with a returning QB.  Vegas will have us favored, why not the fans???
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Posted: 6/10/2014 11:32 AM

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HAman wrote:
ArvadaHawk wrote: After 3 seasons of "rebuilding" the program, at what point can we fans rely on an Iowa team to be dominant? I belive we have 8 starters returning on offense and 7 starters returning on defense. So Athlon is saying that WUs' 8 returning starters (4 each on offense/defense) are better than our 15 returning starters and their 13 new starters are better than our 6 new starters? If WUs' program is that much better than Iowa's, then KF has a problem. Now I understand this is their "opinion" and I don't believe they're close to being right. But, if this is the "reputation" each program has, then we can expect recruits to hear or believe this. That makes recruiting even that much more difficult. 

The only game that concerns me is the roadie at PITT. Iowa should win their B1G games. I don't know how it can be argued that there is a loss on Iowa's schedule in the B1G.
Pitt loses their starting QB.  How often does a new starting QB dominate a game this early in the season.  They lose one of their top WR's, 2 OL, 2 DL, LB, CB, SS...and their back up QB was a RS Freshmen.   I like Iowa's chances against Pitt.  We have all 4 DL starters returning.  Alston and Spearman played plenty of minutes, and King will go up against Pitt's #1 WR.    Our offense should be better than last year...especially with a returning QB.  Vegas will have us favored, why not the fans???
I saw their young QB play late in the season when Savage was hurt.  He has some games under his belt, and he looked pretty good to me...so I think he will not hurt them.  The returning WR is a total stud...sure-fire NFL guy.  Conner, their rb, is a huge punishing runner who is very good.
So, I think they will be fine at the skill positions...not sure about their o-line.
Defense?  Not sure.

I think we can win that game, but it will be a close contest, like last two times we have played Pitt.
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Posted: 6/11/2014 2:02 PM

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hawkjth wrote:
HAman wrote:
ArvadaHawk wrote: After 3 seasons of "rebuilding" the program, at what point can we fans rely on an Iowa team to be dominant? I belive we have 8 starters returning on offense and 7 starters returning on defense. So Athlon is saying that WUs' 8 returning starters (4 each on offense/defense) are better than our 15 returning starters and their 13 new starters are better than our 6 new starters? If WUs' program is that much better than Iowa's, then KF has a problem. Now I understand this is their "opinion" and I don't believe they're close to being right. But, if this is the "reputation" each program has, then we can expect recruits to hear or believe this. That makes recruiting even that much more difficult. 

The only game that concerns me is the roadie at PITT. Iowa should win their B1G games. I don't know how it can be argued that there is a loss on Iowa's schedule in the B1G.
Pitt loses their starting QB.  How often does a new starting QB dominate a game this early in the season.  They lose one of their top WR's, 2 OL, 2 DL, LB, CB, SS...and their back up QB was a RS Freshmen.   I like Iowa's chances against Pitt.  We have all 4 DL starters returning.  Alston and Spearman played plenty of minutes, and King will go up against Pitt's #1 WR.    Our offense should be better than last year...especially with a returning QB.  Vegas will have us favored, why not the fans???
I saw their young QB play late in the season when Savage was hurt.  He has some games under his belt, and he looked pretty good to me...so I think he will not hurt them.  The returning WR is a total stud...sure-fire NFL guy.  Conner, their rb, is a huge punishing runner who is very good.
So, I think they will be fine at the skill positions...not sure about their o-line.
Defense?  Not sure.

I think we can win that game, but it will be a close contest, like last two times we have played Pitt.
I should have been bit clearer.  The reason the PITT game concerns me is due to our historically slow season starts; where we don't seem to be able to come out of the gate firing on most cylindars.  And it's the first road game of the season.  I don't know the numbers, but I don't think we do well in our first roadie of the season.
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Posted: 6/12/2014 2:03 AM

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Why not the fans?

I'll give it a shot...

Because Iowa has this uncanny ability to play down to its competition...not the other way around.  We play like an NFL team where the amount that we win by is less important than the idea of just winning itself.  That works in the NFL just fine (where everybody is a paid professional) but college has a different attitude towards winning against lesser competition.  You beat them handily...or suffer the repricussions of continually playing down to lesser competition i.e. rankings deterioration and lowered respect & prestige (which, in college means absolutely everything).

Fans of Iowa should be pessimistic to some degree because every logical reason in the book says that Iowa is never "truly" the favorite in any game they play because of their coaches unique mindset and attitude towards the game.

Yes, Pitt could beat us just like they have in the past with lesser teams.  Ferentz will always be threatened by lesser teams.  This should be common knowledge by now.  Hell, it's a fact at this point and Ferentz is a known commodity.  We know we will struggle with teams that we shouldn't every year while challenging better teams because of that exact same system we use.  It's the Iowa way at this point and it's the reason we have all of this NFL quality on our team that never seems to equate to a high quality college football team anymore.

Yes, Iowa can pretty much beat most teams annually.  They can also lose to just about any team as well.  That isn't the case for most teams in the same stratosphere as Iowa (top 30 programs).  It's also the reason we never progress beyond our current tier.  We have the unique misfortune of rooting for a team that lives on the fringe every single time they play.  You never know who Iowa is going to be week to week.

That is why I always anticipate the possibility of losing to any team we play regardless of how much better of a football team we are than our opposition.  Odds are, we're usually one of the better football teams in the country annually but our record never quite seems to consistently reflect that at the end of the season.
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Pitt loses their starting QB.  How often does a new starting QB dominate a game this early in the season.  They lose one of their top WR's, 2 OL, 2 DL, LB, CB, SS...and their back up QB was a RS Freshmen.   I like Iowa's chances against Pitt.  We have all 4 DL starters returning.  Alston and Spearman played plenty of minutes, and King will go up against Pitt's #1 WR.    Our offense should be better than last year...especially with a returning QB.  Vegas will have us favored, why not the fans???

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Posted: 6/12/2014 6:23 AM

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ArvadaHawk wrote: After 3 seasons of "rebuilding" the program, at what point can we fans rely on an Iowa team to be dominant? I belive we have 8 starters returning on offense and 7 starters returning on defense. So Athlon is saying that WUs' 8 returning starters (4 each on offense/defense) are better than our 15 returning starters and their 13 new starters are better than our 6 new starters? If WUs' program is that much better than Iowa's, then KF has a problem. Now I understand this is their "opinion" and I don't believe they're close to being right. But, if this is the "reputation" each program has, then we can expect recruits to hear or believe this. That makes recruiting even that much more difficult. 

The only game that concerns me is the roadie at PITT. Iowa should win their B1G games. I don't know how it can be argued that there is a loss on Iowa's schedule in the B1G.
Pitt loses their starting QB.  How often does a new starting QB dominate a game this early in the season.  They lose one of their top WR's, 2 OL, 2 DL, LB, CB, SS...and their back up QB was a RS Freshmen.   I like Iowa's chances against Pitt.  We have all 4 DL starters returning.  Alston and Spearman played plenty of minutes, and King will go up against Pitt's #1 WR.    Our offense should be better than last year...especially with a returning QB.  Vegas will have us favored, why not the fans???

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King will probably only go against their #1 when that WR is lined up on Kings side right? Otherwise our other corner has him.
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Posted: 6/12/2014 1:41 PM

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AEGHawkeye wrote: Why not the fans?

I'll give it a shot...

Because Iowa has this uncanny ability to play down to its competition...not the other way around.  We play like an NFL team where the amount that we win by is less important than the idea of just winning itself.  That works in the NFL just fine (where everybody is a paid professional) but college has a different attitude towards winning against lesser competition.  You beat them handily...or suffer the repricussions of continually playing down to lesser competition i.e. rankings deterioration and lowered respect & prestige (which, in college means absolutely everything).

Fans of Iowa should be pessimistic to some degree because every logical reason in the book says that Iowa is never "truly" the favorite in any game they play because of their coaches unique mindset and attitude towards the game.

Yes, Pitt could beat us just like they have in the past with lesser teams.  Ferentz will always be threatened by lesser teams.  This should be common knowledge by now.  Hell, it's a fact at this point and Ferentz is a known commodity.  We know we will struggle with teams that we shouldn't every year while challenging better teams because of that exact same system we use.  It's the Iowa way at this point and it's the reason we have all of this NFL quality on our team that never seems to equate to a high quality college football team anymore.

Yes, Iowa can pretty much beat most teams annually.  They can also lose to just about any team as well.  That isn't the case for most teams in the same stratosphere as Iowa (top 30 programs).  It's also the reason we never progress beyond our current tier.  We have the unique misfortune of rooting for a team that lives on the fringe every single time they play.  You never know who Iowa is going to be week to week.

That is why I always anticipate the possibility of losing to any team we play regardless of how much better of a football team we are than our opposition.  Odds are, we're usually one of the better football teams in the country annually but our record never quite seems to consistently reflect that at the end of the season.
HAman wrote:
Pitt loses their starting QB.  How often does a new starting QB dominate a game this early in the season.  They lose one of their top WR's, 2 OL, 2 DL, LB, CB, SS...and their back up QB was a RS Freshmen.   I like Iowa's chances against Pitt.  We have all 4 DL starters returning.  Alston and Spearman played plenty of minutes, and King will go up against Pitt's #1 WR.    Our offense should be better than last year...especially with a returning QB.  Vegas will have us favored, why not the fans???
It's...as if you were...were reading my mind!  eek
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Posted: 6/12/2014 11:07 PM

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As usual bud.  It's getting kind of scary lol.
ArvadaHawk wrote:
AEGHawkeye wrote: Why not the fans?

I'll give it a shot...

Because Iowa has this uncanny ability to play down to its competition...not the other way around.  We play like an NFL team where the amount that we win by is less important than the idea of just winning itself.  That works in the NFL just fine (where everybody is a paid professional) but college has a different attitude towards winning against lesser competition.  You beat them handily...or suffer the repricussions of continually playing down to lesser competition i.e. rankings deterioration and lowered respect & prestige (which, in college means absolutely everything).

Fans of Iowa should be pessimistic to some degree because every logical reason in the book says that Iowa is never "truly" the favorite in any game they play because of their coaches unique mindset and attitude towards the game.

Yes, Pitt could beat us just like they have in the past with lesser teams.  Ferentz will always be threatened by lesser teams.  This should be common knowledge by now.  Hell, it's a fact at this point and Ferentz is a known commodity.  We know we will struggle with teams that we shouldn't every year while challenging better teams because of that exact same system we use.  It's the Iowa way at this point and it's the reason we have all of this NFL quality on our team that never seems to equate to a high quality college football team anymore.

Yes, Iowa can pretty much beat most teams annually.  They can also lose to just about any team as well.  That isn't the case for most teams in the same stratosphere as Iowa (top 30 programs).  It's also the reason we never progress beyond our current tier.  We have the unique misfortune of rooting for a team that lives on the fringe every single time they play.  You never know who Iowa is going to be week to week.

That is why I always anticipate the possibility of losing to any team we play regardless of how much better of a football team we are than our opposition.  Odds are, we're usually one of the better football teams in the country annually but our record never quite seems to consistently reflect that at the end of the season.
HAman wrote:
Pitt loses their starting QB.  How often does a new starting QB dominate a game this early in the season.  They lose one of their top WR's, 2 OL, 2 DL, LB, CB, SS...and their back up QB was a RS Freshmen.   I like Iowa's chances against Pitt.  We have all 4 DL starters returning.  Alston and Spearman played plenty of minutes, and King will go up against Pitt's #1 WR.    Our offense should be better than last year...especially with a returning QB.  Vegas will have us favored, why not the fans???
It's...as if you were...were reading my mind!  eek

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Posted: 6/13/2014 2:05 PM

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AEGHawkeye wrote: As usual bud.  It's getting kind of scary lol.
ArvadaHawk wrote:
AEGHawkeye wrote: Why not the fans?

I'll give it a shot...

Because Iowa has this uncanny ability to play down to its competition...not the other way around.  We play like an NFL team where the amount that we win by is less important than the idea of just winning itself.  That works in the NFL just fine (where everybody is a paid professional) but college has a different attitude towards winning against lesser competition.  You beat them handily...or suffer the repricussions of continually playing down to lesser competition i.e. rankings deterioration and lowered respect & prestige (which, in college means absolutely everything).

Fans of Iowa should be pessimistic to some degree because every logical reason in the book says that Iowa is never "truly" the favorite in any game they play because of their coaches unique mindset and attitude towards the game.

Yes, Pitt could beat us just like they have in the past with lesser teams.  Ferentz will always be threatened by lesser teams.  This should be common knowledge by now.  Hell, it's a fact at this point and Ferentz is a known commodity.  We know we will struggle with teams that we shouldn't every year while challenging better teams because of that exact same system we use.  It's the Iowa way at this point and it's the reason we have all of this NFL quality on our team that never seems to equate to a high quality college football team anymore.

Yes, Iowa can pretty much beat most teams annually.  They can also lose to just about any team as well.  That isn't the case for most teams in the same stratosphere as Iowa (top 30 programs).  It's also the reason we never progress beyond our current tier.  We have the unique misfortune of rooting for a team that lives on the fringe every single time they play.  You never know who Iowa is going to be week to week.

That is why I always anticipate the possibility of losing to any team we play regardless of how much better of a football team we are than our opposition.  Odds are, we're usually one of the better football teams in the country annually but our record never quite seems to consistently reflect that at the end of the season.
HAman wrote:
Pitt loses their starting QB.  How often does a new starting QB dominate a game this early in the season.  They lose one of their top WR's, 2 OL, 2 DL, LB, CB, SS...and their back up QB was a RS Freshmen.   I like Iowa's chances against Pitt.  We have all 4 DL starters returning.  Alston and Spearman played plenty of minutes, and King will go up against Pitt's #1 WR.    Our offense should be better than last year...especially with a returning QB.  Vegas will have us favored, why not the fans???
It's...as if you were...were reading my mind!  eek

Yeah, next time I have something I want to say, I'll come ask you what it is.  lol
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