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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:36 AM
Jake Roh
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Last edited 12/21/2012 11:38 AM by DRAFTFREAK
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:36 AM
Re: Jake Roh
Iowa is recruiting him as a LEO LB.
BSU wants him as a TE.
He told me position doesn't matter to him but I have to think it factors in at least a little.
Last edited 12/21/2012 11:37 AM by RobHowe
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:40 AM
RE: Jake Roh
Awesome, I love him more at LB! This kid has great ball skill and quickness to the ball out there and seems like a smart player. Here are his senior highlights: www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0_QJTxMiYg
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:43 AM
Re: Jake Roh
RobHowe wrote: Iowa is recruiting him as a LEO LB.
BSU wants him as a TE.
He told me position doesn't matter to him but I have to think it factors in at least a little. Does BSU actually play TEs? At least at Iowa he will get to cover slot WRs |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:48 AM
Re: Jake Roh
RobHowe wrote: Iowa is recruiting him as a LEO LB.
BSU wants him as a TE.
He told me position doesn't matter to him but I have to think it factors in at least a little. Here is a video from a year ago where he talks about his preferred position and about his brother at Michigan. Craig Roh started at LB and consideres himself a hybrid LB/DE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwEp_ZN-DPU
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:54 AM
Re: Jake Roh
kirbyk70 wrote:
RobHowe wrote: Iowa is recruiting him as a LEO LB.
BSU wants him as a TE.
He told me position doesn't matter to him but I have to think it factors in at least a little. Does BSU actually play TEs? At least at Iowa he will get to cover slot WRs Yes. They actually employ a TE rotation similar to the one at Iowa.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:56 AM
Re: Jake Roh
Wow! Now that kid is a beast. Hard to figure why he isnt higher on the recruiting sites. Versatile player. I'd love to have him.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 12:00 PM
RE: Jake Roh
Rob, what odd's do you give Iowa, and do you think his brother having played at Michigan will sway him in any direction?
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Posted: 12/21/2012 12:01 PM
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RJSimmons wrote: Wow! Now that kid is a beast. Hard to figure why he isnt higher on the recruiting sites. Versatile player. I'd love to have him. Roh No. 1 on Iowa board right now at LB with with Reggie Spearman from Chicago Simeon being No. 2.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 12:04 PM
RE: Jake Roh
DRAFTFREAK wrote: Rob, what odd's do you give Iowa, and do you think his brother having played at Michigan will sway him in any direction? 50-50.  I actually couldn't tell from speaking with him on which way he was leaning. He was pretty impressed with both visits. He grew up watching the Big Ten as his brother plays at Michigan and his father grew up in that state. Maybe that gives the Hawks an edge. Hard to say
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Posted: 12/21/2012 12:06 PM
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RJSimmons wrote: Wow! Now that kid is a beast. Hard to figure why he isnt higher on the recruiting sites. Versatile player. I'd love to have him. I think, don't know, that had he embraced being a LB, like his brother, then he might of had more offers. As is, he has some good ones, also Texas, UCLA and others have been in discussion with him at times so who knows if a late offer will fly in like Michigan did with Hill.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 12:18 PM
RE: Jake Roh
RobHowe wrote:
DRAFTFREAK wrote: Rob, what odd's do you give Iowa, and do you think his brother having played at Michigan will sway him in any direction? 50-50.
I actually couldn't tell from speaking with him on which way he was leaning. He was pretty impressed with both visits.
He grew up watching the Big Ten as his brother plays at Michigan and his father grew up in that state.
Maybe that gives the Hawks an edge. Hard to say Thanks! 50-50 is WAY BETTER than 49-51. If he grew up watching the BIG10 then I would think that it's a positive, unless he grew up hating the black and yellow each week. Maybe he will want to prove Michigan wrong. I had read that Duke thought it came down to them and Iowa. I liked those odds a little better.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 12:30 PM
Re: Jake Roh
That kid has great hands and speed. Why wouldnt he want to play TE in college? He looks to me like he could play either position. Get that kid on campus and allow him to pick the position he wants.
Good frame, too. He could easily put on 40 lbs.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 1:01 PM
Re: Jake Roh
This young man looks good on film and on paper. I sure hope we can land him. Gotta agree with RJ...he seems like he has the size, speed, and skills to become a B1G LEO or TE.  Let's see what Rudock can do!
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Posted: 12/21/2012 3:16 PM
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RJSimmons wrote: That kid has great hands and speed. Why wouldnt he want to play TE in college? He looks to me like he could play either position. Get that kid on campus and allow him to pick the position he wants.
Good frame, too. He could easily put on 40 lbs. A LB that can catch passed sounds great to me! |
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Posted: 12/22/2012 12:57 AM
RE: Jake Roh
Things for Mr. Roh to consider. Conference, location, program direction, position, weather (nope, its cold in both places). Anything else? Being on T.V. so family can watch when not at a game? Or, maybe a girlfriend going to the same location? Of all these things and more, I think playing in a premier (slightly down) conference will help him decide to commit to Iowa. Both programs can get you to the NFL if thats high on his list of priorities. One other thing to consider is, is Blue his favorite color. If so, we're screwed.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 4:14 AM
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Was just reading on espn about the whole Big East / Mountain West situation. Not sure which way Boise st is going in regards to which conference they'll end up in, so this may be to Iowas advantage concerning which school he picks. |
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Posted: 12/22/2012 8:03 AM
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The biggest thing going for Boise State is the fact that they win.  |
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Posted: 12/22/2012 8:20 AM
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I think that the Boise area is more attractive than Iowa City as well.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 9:10 AM
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Young man is going for an education I hope. Iowa generally rated much higher in academics.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 9:17 AM
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Per Scout, BSU already has 3 LB commits (2 OLB's / 1 MLB) and Iowa has two OLB commits (Trevon Young being one). From that perspective, Iowa could have the edge.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 9:55 AM
Re: Jake Roh
Per Rob, BSU is looking to use him as a tightend, not a Linebacker so it does not matter what the recruiting numbers look like for BSU at the LB position.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 10:00 AM
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Per Rob, BSU is looking to use him as a tightend, not a Linebacker so it does not matter what the recruiting numbers look like for BSU at the LB position.
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According to Scout, they already have commits from the 53rd and 29th rated TE's.
Let's see what Rudock can do!
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Posted: 12/22/2012 10:38 AM
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Cardinal, thanks for catching me on that. I completely spaced the LB vs TE when I got to the Bronco's site. But yeah, they have TE's already committed, too. Thanks for picking me up Florida.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 11:38 AM
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kmurp wrote: I think that the Boise area is more attractive than Iowa City as well. Have you been to Boise???  |
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Posted: 12/22/2012 12:47 PM
Re: Jake Roh
Gone and I can't blame him with our boring defense and offense. Too bad he looked like a good one.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 12:50 PM
Re: Jake Roh
He just sent me a text that he committed to Boise State.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 12:55 PM
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golfshep1 wrote: Gone and I can't blame him with our boring defense and offense. Too bad he looked like a good one. Sadly this did not even surprise me.  We can't fire Ferentz for another 4 years because of his buyout. But we can sure as hell get rid of our worthless coordinators and AD!!
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Posted: 12/22/2012 12:57 PM
RE: Jake Roh
Bozo the Ferentz can't even out-recruit Boise, Idaho.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 1:08 PM
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phdsvp wrote: Bozo the Ferentz can't even out-recruit Boise, Idaho. While I understand the sentiment, Boise has started competing successfully against many top tier programs for recruits. While this was unheard of 7 years ago, it is relatively common now. A couple of examples... Ioane (teammate of Teo in Hawaii) - Notre Dame (I almost died of shock on this one) Fields & Demas - Oregon Lawrence - Clemson, South Carolina, Tennessee Weaver - Texas A&M Miller - Arkansas Yakoo - UCLA We beat out the middle tier of the Pac 12 routinely for most of our guys today. One team we have yet to beat for a recruit is USC. They don't really recruit...they interview. " Hate’s not too strong a word: petty, hoity-toity hate at that, the sort of condescension the old guard throw at the nouveau riche. And that’s not really hate at all... but rather fear."
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Posted: 12/22/2012 1:10 PM
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phdsvp wrote: Bozo the Ferentz can't even out-recruit Boise, Idaho. Let me TRY to understand your statement; Roh has two final teams, one Iowa, who offers him at LB, and Boise State, who offers him at TE. He has said before that he prefers offense but still, "BOZO" was able to get into his final two. Yea, that one's on the coach for sure. Not that his parents having a much better shot at driving to his games had any bearing on it either. Arizona and Idaho have only one state between them. Iowa is halfway across the country.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 1:18 PM
RE: Jake Roh
Jake said it was the coaches at Boise St. that was the difference for him. Remember, Iowa jumped in late here. BSU had been recruiting him for some time.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 1:20 PM
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RobHowe wrote: Jake said it was the coaches at Boise St. that was the difference for him. Remember, Iowa jumped in late here. BSU had been recruiting him for some time. I wonder if this had ANY effect, (it crossed my mind yesterday): His brother played for his Dads favorite team but he didn't get an offer. That has to sting a little. So he has a choice, play for his Dads hated Iowa or go to a much closer team and play offense, just like he wanted. Just a thought.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 1:45 PM
RE: Jake Roh
He told me that position wasn't going to be a huge factor. He liked the idea of playing linebacker.
I think it had to do with his relationship with the BSU coaches. They'd been recruiting him for a while.
The Hawks jumped in last month. Remember, he had to squeeze in a midweek visit here to get it in before making his decision.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 2:23 PM
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BSUFAN9999 wrote:
phdsvp wrote: Bozo the Ferentz can't even out-recruit Boise, Idaho.
While I understand the sentiment, Boise has started competing successfully against many top tier programs for recruits. While this was unheard of 7 years ago, it is relatively common now. A couple of examples...
Ioane (teammate of Teo in Hawaii) - Notre Dame (I almost died of shock on this one)
Fields & Demas - Oregon
Lawrence - Clemson, South Carolina, Tennessee
Weaver - Texas A&M
Miller - Arkansas
Yakoo - UCLA
We beat out the middle tier of the Pac 12 routinely for most of our guys today.
One team we have yet to beat for a recruit is USC. They don't really recruit...they interview. I don't think it is a slam to miss out on a recruit to BSU. Who could blame the kid? BSU has proven that it is a top notch program where as our program is in a nosedive. I frankly would rather have BSU in the B1G than Maryland or Rutgers. But that's a whole other story. Iowa fans are just smarting from a downward spiral that started in 2010 and has turned into a free fall, so every bit of bad news comes as a fresh dagger to the heart. We can't fire Ferentz for another 4 years because of his buyout. But we can sure as hell get rid of our worthless coordinators and AD!!
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Posted: 12/22/2012 2:27 PM
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Tubastank wrote:
kmurp wrote: I think that the Boise area is more attractive than Iowa City as well. Have you been to Boise??? Actually, no, so I shouldn't have commented. I have read that it is an up and coming, growing area, especially for the "boulder Colorado" type of outdoorsy crowd. |
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Posted: 12/22/2012 3:32 PM
RE: Jake Roh
DRAFTFREAK wrote:
RobHowe wrote: Jake said it was the coaches at Boise St. that was the difference for him. Remember, Iowa jumped in late here. BSU had been recruiting him for some time.
I wonder if this had ANY effect, (it crossed my mind yesterday): His brother played for his Dads favorite team but he didn't get an offer. That has to sting a little. So he has a choice, play for his Dads hated Iowa or go to a much closer team and play offense, just like he wanted. Just a thought. Draft, I think you could be Ferentz' Press Secretary. |
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Posted: 12/22/2012 3:40 PM
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kmurp wrote:
Tubastank wrote:
kmurp wrote: I think that the Boise area is more attractive than Iowa City as well. Have you been to Boise??? Actually, no, so I shouldn't have commented. I have read that it is an up and coming, growing area, especially for the "boulder Colorado" type of outdoorsy crowd. I've lived there. Boise far surpasses IC in climate, air travel, outdoor activities, restaurants, etc. BSU sits on the edge of downtown and along the clear Boise river. Full of trout, kayaking parks and people tubing the river. World class floating, camping and access to the largest wilderness tract in the lower 48 is literally minutes away. Sun Valley is the equivalent of Des Moines away from Boise. You may have heard of the place. Iowa is fine but there is no comparison other than the size of UI.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 3:48 PM
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Something that I feel has always hurt Ferentz is that recruits don't know whether or not he'll be around. In his earlier years he built up the program successfully. Since then (2002-2004) Ferentz was seemingly NFL bound. Once the NFL rumors died off a tad he had another great year (2009). Then some rumors come back and failed again. Now it's the program state and the fan base wanting him fired.
Absolutely not the only reason why recruiting has fallen off but it doesn't help. Other programs simply say "KF won't be there". They have been able to say that since 2003. Now it's "KF is going to get fired" instead of "KF is going to the NFL".
Players don't like it when a coach doesn't stick around. They also don't like the negative energy surrounding the program (fans, workouts, injuries, losing).
The only thing Iowa can really hang their hat on right now is NFL quantity. I'm a personal believer that almost any guy Iowa put in the NFL would have been in the NFL anyways. Most players just want to win anyways. If they want to go to the NFL, they need mostly self drive and some proper training that about 40-60 schools can do for you.
Last edited 12/22/2012 4:00 PM by YoureATowel
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Posted: 12/22/2012 5:03 PM
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YoureATowel wrote: Something that I feel has always hurt Ferentz is that recruits don't know whether or not he'll be around. In his earlier years he built up the program successfully. Since then (2002-2004) Ferentz was seemingly NFL bound. Once the NFL rumors died off a tad he had another great year (2009). Then some rumors come back and failed again. Now it's the program state and the fan base wanting him fired.
Absolutely not the only reason why recruiting has fallen off but it doesn't help. Other programs simply say "KF won't be there". They have been able to say that since 2003. Now it's "KF is going to get fired" instead of "KF is going to the NFL".
Players don't like it when a coach doesn't stick around. They also don't like the negative energy surrounding the program (fans, workouts, injuries, losing).
The only thing Iowa can really hang their hat on right now is NFL quantity. I'm a personal believer that almost any guy Iowa put in the NFL would have been in the NFL anyways. Most players just want to win anyways. If they want to go to the NFL, they need mostly self drive and some proper training that about 40-60 schools can do for you. The only problem with your argument is that it's not true. Read the Forbes article posted in the threads below. Ferentz is in one of the safest positions of any coach because of his extremely high buyout. |
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