Sorry, but the only reason Iowa is in his top 8 is because the ties between his late father and Kirk. Would be very surprised if we get him with the state this team is in right now.

Alex51 wrote: You're right, we're the only school that does that.

HawkfaninWA wrote: Draft, for the most part I like your posts.  But getting on a list doesn't really get my blood pressure up.  Good grief, we're in his top EIGHT!  We currently have (and no, stars aren't everything, but they do mean something) nothing above a 3 star commit. KF is going to need a miracle to turn the ship around because we aren't getting talent and the talent we do get is being misused (read Garmon).

Sorry, but there's a reason we're not burning up the recruiting trail right now.

Draft..not to pile on, but I gotta agree with Hawkfan.

There was a piece written several months back stating that Orlando Brown learned from his now deceased father that KF, as an NFL line coach, personally mentored his father when he was an NFL lineman. That’s quite a tribute to KF as a decent and kind human being.

I want nothing but the best for Iowa football, but I fear that our beloved KF has lost touch with the college game and in being an effective leader. The writing is on the wall and without some major shakeups in coaching personnel, game philosophy, and recruiting, I believe we are heading further south. I hope I am wrong.

MidwestHawk wrote: Or Cleveland???? Don't recall where Kirk was an assistant at????

strabe30 wrote: Im pretty sure if you would as most kids who their "Top 8" was. We would be in most kids list.

HawkfaninWA wrote: Draft, for the most part I like your posts.  But getting on a list doesn't really get my blood pressure up.  Good grief, we're in his top EIGHT!  We currently have (and no, stars aren't everything, but they do mean something) nothing above a 3 star commit. KF is going to need a miracle to turn the ship around because we aren't getting talent and the talent we do get is being misused (read Garmon).

Sorry, but there's a reason we're not burning up the recruiting trail right now.

DRAFTFREAK wrote:

Alex51 wrote: You're right, we're the only school that does that.

Hey Mr. Negative, we are not the only one but we're one of the best at getting it done. I have no doubt there's more than one reason why he has Iowa in his top 8 and there better be if we're to get him. Whats wrong with any relationship with his Dad helping us land him? It may of got Iowa on the TV in his home and started conversations about KF, that's a plus, not a negative. I am glad KF is going all over the country now rather than mostly staying in BIG10 country. That is a huge step into positive territory if you ask me. Go on and jump on Iowa and say we only got in his top 8 because of KF and his Dad but I wonder two things, how you know that and even if it was true whats wrong with a player liking a school because his Dad gave him reasons to like the head coach? That's a positive to me.

ProTurf wrote: Dude, there's nothing wrong with "being positive," but forcing it down people's throats is irritating.

ProTurf wrote: Dude, there's nothing wrong with "being positive," but forcing it down people's throats is irritating.

DRAFTFREAK wrote:

Ht: 6-7 Wt: 340 Position: OT Year: Class of 2014 High School: Peachtree Ridge HS (Suwanee, GA)

2014 OL Orlando Brown from Georgia has 40 offers (TOS) and he just named a top 8
 From Twitter: OL Orlando Brown announces a top 8 of #Michigan, #Oregon, #Alabama, @OhioState, #SCar, #Georgia, #Iowa, #Florida. In no order.
Keep in mind that almost every big team offered him but scout has him as only a 3 star. Who is right?
 Just thought I would point out that every team has down times and not everyone see's it as the end for said team. We didn't make that list by accident, KF went after that kid in Georgia and is really trying to fix the problems. Just thought some of you would like to know that.

HawkfaninWA wrote: Draft, for the most part I like your posts.  But getting on a list doesn't really get my blood pressure up.  Good grief, we're in his top EIGHT!  We currently have (and no, stars aren't everything, but they do mean something) nothing above a 3 star commit. KF is going to need a miracle to turn the ship around because we aren't getting talent and the talent we do get is being misused (read Garmon).

Sorry, but there's a reason we're not burning up the recruiting trail right now.

RJSimmons wrote: 2009 was our best season over the past 8 seasons. Here is a list of starters with their Scout star rating. Next to it is the same thing from 2012.
QB - Stanzi - 2*                                                       QB - Vandenberg - 3*
RB - Robinson - walk on                                             RB - Weisman - walk on
FB - Morse - 2*                                                         FB - Rogers - 2*
WR - DJK - 3*                                                           WR - Davis - 4*
WR - McNutt - 3*                                                       WR - KMM - 2*
TE - Moeaki - 5*                                                         TE - CJF - 4*
OL - Calloway - 3*                                                      OL - Scherf - 3*
OL - Richardson - 5*                                                   OL - Tobin - walk on
OL - Eubanks - 4*                                                      OL - Ferentz - 3*
OL - Vandervelde - 2*                                                 OL - Blythe - 3*
OL - Bulaga -4*                                                          OL - Van Sloten - 2*

DE - Clayborn - 4*                                                      DE - Bigach - 2*
DT - Klug - 2*                                                            DT - Trica-Passat - 3*
DT - Ballard - 4*                                                         DT - Gaglione - 2*
DE - Binns - 3*                                                           DE - Alvis - walk on
LB - Edds - 4*                                                            LB - Hitchens - 2*
LB - Angerer - 3*                                                        LB - Morris - 3*
LB - Hunter - 4*                                                          LB - Kirksey - 2*
CB - Spievey - 2*                                                        CB - Lowery - 3*
SS - Sash - 3*                                                            SS - Miller - 2*
FS - Greenwood - walk on                                             FS - Donatell - walk on
CB - Prater - 3*                                                           CB - Hyde - 2*
Thats an average star rating of 2.95 per player.       Average star rating of 2.13

Hawks28 wrote: Really no reason to come to Iowa. This kid is NFL regardless of where he goes. Should go play for Saban - that guy can coach, win games (unlike Kurt), and will still get him to the NFL. Nice classy gesture on his behalf but this kid should go to the SEC. Our program is done.

larryhead wrote:

Hawks28 wrote: Really no reason to come to Iowa. This kid is NFL regardless of where he goes. Should go play for Saban - that guy can coach, win games (unlike Kurt), and will still get him to the NFL. Nice classy gesture on his behalf but this kid should go to the SEC. Our program is done.

So let me get this straight... you are now so unhappy with KF that you are recommending a recruit go any where but Iowa. I am no where near a KF fan but seriously? This is by far your most annoying post this year... and there have been many.

Hawks28 wrote: Larry, get real. If you think this program is going to turn around with Ferentz at the helm you're mistaken.  Look at CJ - we've really maximized his potential haven't we? And if you don't think he would have a better shot at another school, I think you're vastly mistaken.

And your comment about "most annoying post of the year". I'm quite sure you haven't even been following me but nice work with the blanket post for a message board.

larryhead wrote:

Hawks28 wrote: Really no reason to come to Iowa. This kid is NFL regardless of where he goes. Should go play for Saban - that guy can coach, win games (unlike Kurt), and will still get him to the NFL. Nice classy gesture on his behalf but this kid should go to the SEC. Our program is done.

So let me get this straight... you are now so unhappy with KF that you are recommending a recruit go any where but Iowa. I am no where near a KF fan but seriously? This is by far your most annoying post this year... and there have been many.

Hawks28 wrote: Larry, get real. If you think this program is going to turn around with Ferentz at the helm you're mistaken.  Look at CJ - we've really maximized his potential haven't we? And if you don't think he would have a better shot at another school, I think you're vastly mistaken.

And your comment about "most annoying post of the year". I'm quite sure you haven't even been following me but nice work with the blanket post for a message board.

larryhead wrote:

Hawks28 wrote: Really no reason to come to Iowa. This kid is NFL regardless of where he goes. Should go play for Saban - that guy can coach, win games (unlike Kurt), and will still get him to the NFL. Nice classy gesture on his behalf but this kid should go to the SEC. Our program is done.

So let me get this straight... you are now so unhappy with KF that you are recommending a recruit go any where but Iowa. I am no where near a KF fan but seriously? This is by far your most annoying post this year... and there have been many.

Hawks28 wrote: No offense taken. I'm as Black & Gold as anyone on here, although people might try to label me different. Born and raised in Iowa for 25 years of my life, graduated from Iowa, touched the Big 10 trophy on the field in Kinnick Stadium in 2004 when we beat down Wisconsin on a cold bitter night. Those are memories I will never forget. Call me spoiled, but we have achieved greatness in the past and I refuse to accept that this program is, all of a sudden, directionless.

If my posts seems annoying, I can understand your perspective and I'm quite frankly pissed at how poorly this entire program has been managed from the top down, Barta included, over the past 3 years. Yes, there are much more important things in life to be concerned about and I can maintain that perspective, but if we're going to be on a football forum, we should talk football and be allowed to be emotionally invested in the outcomes as "fans". That's what makes it fun and madening at the same time.

There are so many things wrong with the direction right now. KF routinely takes the "sky is not falling" approach to everything he does, but the final results on the field suggest otherwise. Perhaps the most disappointing thing to this whole mess involves that there is no way out of this. He's overpaid, under-performing and is a terrible recruiter. It's the lack of hope in the forseeable future that is most disconcerting and that's what "gets me". I would like nothing more than to be proven wrong over the next couple years, I just don't logically see it.