swimmingman64 wrote: So I am going to come on here even though I am sure it will get ripped by many:)  But that is the freedom of speech and I did come on here.  

So just quickly.  While I realize that many are unhappy with Kirk I think he is a good head coach.  I will have to say I was a bit frustrated but I see it as a new OC and the players were not the ones he recruited.  I think we have to really wait until next year to judge him on that.  Anyway.

With Kirk we were bowl eligible for 11 straight years, even Hayden didn't do that.  I think the team this year was young.  With another year I think that we will do much better next year.  Maybe I am drinking the kool aid a bit, but I think that the players enjoy playing for him, and with the changes this year and a young team it was a tough go.  

He has shown in the past an ability to rebound.  So as a fan of the school, coach and team I am willing to be frustrated by this season but see what next year has in store.  

I predict we will be 9-3 with losses to Ohio St., Michigan and Wisconsin.  Although with today's news about BB, we might be able to go 10-2.  Again maybe I am drinking the kool aid, but I just don't think things are as bad as people say.

A lot of people on here are calling for Barta's head because he signed Kirk to a long term contract.  One these are the same people that wanted him locked up because he was constantly being courted by others.  Two I actually think the long term contract works in our favor.  In the next 8 years(since Kirk's contract ends in 2020) I see coaches salaries going even higher.  So theoretically Kirk's salary won't be looked at the same in a few years as it is now.  With all of the money coming in for college football and the new playoff coming, which I believe will make it even more ludacris, it actually works in our favor.

So that is my two cents worth.  I just don't see the reason for all of the negative stuff on the board.  I am a Hawkeye fan.  I want a coach who believes in his players and school.  I want athletes who want to be here and want to wear the black and gold.  For that I am willing to support them even in a down year.  Two recruits recently said this was the place for them, the didn't see the 4-8 mark as a trend, rather they saw it as an opportunity for them to come in and make a difference.  Those are the players I want.  

Okay guys, bash away. haha

PS- Oh, and everyone have a great holiday season, may your Christmas be merry and may all of you have a Great new year.  

Go Hawks!!

Nice post swimmingfan.......finally got a chance to watch the 'bama-Georgia game last nite on my DVR.......kind of funny, concentrated on the lines and saw both use predominately zone blocking and stretch plays....the real eye opener was the number of times on a third down where they would throw short of the sticks....a few even on third and 4 yards to go. The defenses both ran cover 2 with man under coverage but Georgia walked their safety into the box an awful lot. In short, basically the same offense and defense, just better athletes. Special teams.....they showed coaching there....hope Kirk and Lester Erb were watching....I believe Erb still coaches Special Teams.

swimmingman64 wrote: So I am going to come on here even though I am sure it will get ripped by many:)  But that is the freedom of speech and I did come on here.  

So just quickly.  While I realize that many are unhappy with Kirk I think he is a good head coach.  I will have to say I was a bit frustrated but I see it as a new OC and the players were not the ones he recruited.  I think we have to really wait until next year to judge him on that.  Anyway.

With Kirk we were bowl eligible for 11 straight years, even Hayden didn't do that.  I think the team this year was young.  With another year I think that we will do much better next year.  Maybe I am drinking the kool aid a bit, but I think that the players enjoy playing for him, and with the changes this year and a young team it was a tough go.  

He has shown in the past an ability to rebound.  So as a fan of the school, coach and team I am willing to be frustrated by this season but see what next year has in store.  

I predict we will be 9-3 with losses to Ohio St., Michigan and Wisconsin.  Although with today's news about BB, we might be able to go 10-2.  Again maybe I am drinking the kool aid, but I just don't think things are as bad as people say.

A lot of people on here are calling for Barta's head because he signed Kirk to a long term contract.  One these are the same people that wanted him locked up because he was constantly being courted by others.  Two I actually think the long term contract works in our favor.  In the next 8 years(since Kirk's contract ends in 2020) I see coaches salaries going even higher.  So theoretically Kirk's salary won't be looked at the same in a few years as it is now.  With all of the money coming in for college football and the new playoff coming, which I believe will make it even more ludacris, it actually works in our favor.

So that is my two cents worth.  I just don't see the reason for all of the negative stuff on the board.  I am a Hawkeye fan.  I want a coach who believes in his players and school.  I want athletes who want to be here and want to wear the black and gold.  For that I am willing to support them even in a down year.  Two recruits recently said this was the place for them, the didn't see the 4-8 mark as a trend, rather they saw it as an opportunity for them to come in and make a difference.  Those are the players I want.  

Okay guys, bash away. haha

PS- Oh, and everyone have a great holiday season, may your Christmas be merry and may all of you have a Great new year.  

Go Hawks!!

swimmingman64 wrote: So I am going to come on here even though I am sure it will get ripped by many:)  But that is the freedom of speech and I did come on here.  

So just quickly.  While I realize that many are unhappy with Kirk I think he is a good head coach.  I will have to say I was a bit frustrated but I see it as a new OC and the players were not the ones he recruited.  I think we have to really wait until next year to judge him on that.  Anyway.

With Kirk we were bowl eligible for 11 straight years, even Hayden didn't do that.  I think the team this year was young.  With another year I think that we will do much better next year.  Maybe I am drinking the kool aid a bit, but I think that the players enjoy playing for him, and with the changes this year and a young team it was a tough go.  

He has shown in the past an ability to rebound.  So as a fan of the school, coach and team I am willing to be frustrated by this season but see what next year has in store.  

I predict we will be 9-3 with losses to Ohio St., Michigan and Wisconsin.  Although with today's news about BB, we might be able to go 10-2.  Again maybe I am drinking the kool aid, but I just don't think things are as bad as people say.

A lot of people on here are calling for Barta's head because he signed Kirk to a long term contract.  One these are the same people that wanted him locked up because he was constantly being courted by others.  Two I actually think the long term contract works in our favor.  In the next 8 years(since Kirk's contract ends in 2020) I see coaches salaries going even higher.  So theoretically Kirk's salary won't be looked at the same in a few years as it is now.  With all of the money coming in for college football and the new playoff coming, which I believe will make it even more ludacris, it actually works in our favor.

So that is my two cents worth.  I just don't see the reason for all of the negative stuff on the board.  I am a Hawkeye fan.  I want a coach who believes in his players and school.  I want athletes who want to be here and want to wear the black and gold.  For that I am willing to support them even in a down year.  Two recruits recently said this was the place for them, the didn't see the 4-8 mark as a trend, rather they saw it as an opportunity for them to come in and make a difference.  Those are the players I want.  

Okay guys, bash away. haha

PS- Oh, and everyone have a great holiday season, may your Christmas be merry and may all of you have a Great new year.  

Go Hawks!!

MississippiHawkeye wrote: I don't know you personally, but by saying you like Kirk, Im going to assume that you are a big fan of just being average, that you don't strive to improve in much that you do, that you lack creativity, that the idea of taking a even a small risk for a large reward scares the hell out of you, that you don't mind just handing money out to people who have done nothing to earn it, that you don't get fired up over too much situations even if you were wronged, and that you refuse to acknowledge that change can sometimes be a good thing.

Again, I don't mean this as a perosnal attack, but you are catching my drift with the innuendos (sp?).

IOWA308 wrote:

swimmingman64 wrote: So I am going to come on here even though I am sure it will get ripped by many:)  But that is the freedom of speech and I did come on here.  

So just quickly.  While I realize that many are unhappy with Kirk I think he is a good head coach.  I will have to say I was a bit frustrated but I see it as a new OC and the players were not the ones he recruited.  I think we have to really wait until next year to judge him on that.  Anyway.

With Kirk we were bowl eligible for 11 straight years, even Hayden didn't do that.  I think the team this year was young.  With another year I think that we will do much better next year.  Maybe I am drinking the kool aid a bit, but I think that the players enjoy playing for him, and with the changes this year and a young team it was a tough go.  

He has shown in the past an ability to rebound.  So as a fan of the school, coach and team I am willing to be frustrated by this season but see what next year has in store.  

I predict we will be 9-3 with losses to Ohio St., Michigan and Wisconsin.  Although with today's news about BB, we might be able to go 10-2.  Again maybe I am drinking the kool aid, but I just don't think things are as bad as people say.

A lot of people on here are calling for Barta's head because he signed Kirk to a long term contract.  One these are the same people that wanted him locked up because he was constantly being courted by others.  Two I actually think the long term contract works in our favor.  In the next 8 years(since Kirk's contract ends in 2020) I see coaches salaries going even higher.  So theoretically Kirk's salary won't be looked at the same in a few years as it is now.  With all of the money coming in for college football and the new playoff coming, which I believe will make it even more ludacris, it actually works in our favor.

So that is my two cents worth.  I just don't see the reason for all of the negative stuff on the board.  I am a Hawkeye fan.  I want a coach who believes in his players and school.  I want athletes who want to be here and want to wear the black and gold.  For that I am willing to support them even in a down year.  Two recruits recently said this was the place for them, the didn't see the 4-8 mark as a trend, rather they saw it as an opportunity for them to come in and make a difference.  Those are the players I want.  

Okay guys, bash away. haha

PS- Oh, and everyone have a great holiday season, may your Christmas be merry and may all of you have a Great new year.  

Go Hawks!!

There are plenty of reason to rip into your thoughts about this coach and rediculous predictions for next year...but I am getting to a point of saying why bother, we stuck with this guy for several years.  However Fans like you and Draft Freak need to realize a few indisputable KEY realities.  Realities you tend to "skirt around" or avoid whenever you feel juiced up about KF.  This coach, for as much as he is paid, is not capable of bringing this program to an elite level again or bring us a national championship - dream all you want, but it ain't happening.  Number 2:  Our best years (high points) under KF since 2002 were due in large to Norm's defence and a few great classes that gave us talent on bothsides of the ball - it was not because of KF's great coaching abilities.  Number 3: This coach is not aggressive enough to put away teams in game time regulation or consistently beat lesser teams. If you can't consistenly beat lesser teams year and year out, you can forget about elite status folks.  Number 4:  After all of these seasons under KF, have we really seen any marked improvements with coaching or recruiting - a resounding NO! its been status quo - no changes.  Number 5:  When we are the ropes during close games that we need to win, this coach will not give us the best chance for victory, whether its play calling or not sending the best talent to the field - take your pick (if we do win a close one, its usually because the other team beats themselves or we get some crazy turnover or lucky break, but its not from outstanding coaching). Sorry guys, these are the realities and you'll be be hard pressed to argue against them.

sunnydaze46 wrote: And 2 cars plus insurance, 35 hours of private jet time, etc. Beyond unbelievable at this point. ANF my ass, what a sham/scam for the state of Iowa.

http://www.dmcityview.com/2012/11/28/ferentz-gets- 100000-raise-rhoads-misses-200000-bonus/

hawkeye4life68 wrote:

swimmingman64 wrote: So I am going to come on here even though I am sure it will get ripped by many:)  But that is the freedom of speech and I did come on here.  

So just quickly.  While I realize that many are unhappy with Kirk I think he is a good head coach.  I will have to say I was a bit frustrated but I see it as a new OC and the players were not the ones he recruited.  I think we have to really wait until next year to judge him on that.  Anyway.

With Kirk we were bowl eligible for 11 straight years, even Hayden didn't do that.  I think the team this year was young.  With another year I think that we will do much better next year.  Maybe I am drinking the kool aid a bit, but I think that the players enjoy playing for him, and with the changes this year and a young team it was a tough go.  

He has shown in the past an ability to rebound.  So as a fan of the school, coach and team I am willing to be frustrated by this season but see what next year has in store.  

I predict we will be 9-3 with losses to Ohio St., Michigan and Wisconsin.  Although with today's news about BB, we might be able to go 10-2.  Again maybe I am drinking the kool aid, but I just don't think things are as bad as people say.

A lot of people on here are calling for Barta's head because he signed Kirk to a long term contract.  One these are the same people that wanted him locked up because he was constantly being courted by others.  Two I actually think the long term contract works in our favor.  In the next 8 years(since Kirk's contract ends in 2020) I see coaches salaries going even higher.  So theoretically Kirk's salary won't be looked at the same in a few years as it is now.  With all of the money coming in for college football and the new playoff coming, which I believe will make it even more ludacris, it actually works in our favor.

So that is my two cents worth.  I just don't see the reason for all of the negative stuff on the board.  I am a Hawkeye fan.  I want a coach who believes in his players and school.  I want athletes who want to be here and want to wear the black and gold.  For that I am willing to support them even in a down year.  Two recruits recently said this was the place for them, the didn't see the 4-8 mark as a trend, rather they saw it as an opportunity for them to come in and make a difference.  Those are the players I want.  

Okay guys, bash away. haha

PS- Oh, and everyone have a great holiday season, may your Christmas be merry and may all of you have a Great new year.  

Go Hawks!!

I don't like Kirk.

I guess I just expect a guy who makes 4 million and has perks like access to a private jet and free cars to give a flying frick about the fact that his teams can't make first downs or score and that he looks like a complete buffoon managing the last two minutes of a half and actually recognize those deficiencies and do something that has a REAL chance of resolving those issues.

Guess I'm just crazy like that.

swimmingman64 wrote:

MississippiHawkeye wrote: I don't know you personally, but by saying you like Kirk, Im going to assume that you are a big fan of just being average, that you don't strive to improve in much that you do, that you lack creativity, that the idea of taking a even a small risk for a large reward scares the hell out of you, that you don't mind just handing money out to people who have done nothing to earn it, that you don't get fired up over too much situations even if you were wronged, and that you refuse to acknowledge that change can sometimes be a good thing.

Again, I don't mean this as a perosnal attack, but you are catching my drift with the innuendos (sp?).

Your right you don't know me.  You don't know that I have coached high school swimming for 20 years, won 18 league championships and a State Championship.  You don't know that my athletes have achieved all american over 120 times.   You don't know that I run 2 high school youth ministry programs at two different churches, that I teach PE full time and I coach.  You don't know that I went back to school and got my masters degree in Education. 

If you feel the program is average then that is your opinion, but when you throw out that my opinion for a team I think is not as bad off as  you should define me.  Then yes it is personal becuase you don't understand how to write a rational response and only feel that getting personal and trying to put someone down is your best way defending your position.

MississippiHawkeye wrote: Sorry swimming, I thought that I made my self clear with my final statement that it was nothing personal and simply tyring to make a play off of the words in which you titled your thread.

Sorry it got taken the wrong way. Was not meant to be a personal attack at all and like you said, and like I prefaced, I don't know you at all.

It was a play off of the thread title "I Like".  I was implying you liked all those things becasue to me, Kirk Ferentz and this football program represent those things.

I don't know you, so there is no way that I would knwo if you literally stand/don't stand for the points I made.

It was just me trying to play off the title of the thread. Not trying to attack you perosnally, not trying to insult you, not trying to put you down. Was a poor attempt at a play on the words.

swimmingman64 wrote:

MississippiHawkeye wrote: I don't know you personally, but by saying you like Kirk, Im going to assume that you are a big fan of just being average, that you don't strive to improve in much that you do, that you lack creativity, that the idea of taking a even a small risk for a large reward scares the hell out of you, that you don't mind just handing money out to people who have done nothing to earn it, that you don't get fired up over too much situations even if you were wronged, and that you refuse to acknowledge that change can sometimes be a good thing.

Again, I don't mean this as a perosnal attack, but you are catching my drift with the innuendos (sp?).

Your right you don't know me.  You don't know that I have coached high school swimming for 20 years, won 18 league championships and a State Championship.  You don't know that my athletes have achieved all american over 120 times.   You don't know that I run 2 high school youth ministry programs at two different churches, that I teach PE full time and I coach.  You don't know that I went back to school and got my masters degree in Education. 

If you feel the program is average then that is your opinion, but when you throw out that my opinion for a team I think is not as bad off as  you should define me.  Then yes it is personal becuase you don't understand how to write a rational response and only feel that getting personal and trying to put someone down is your best way defending your position.

swimmingman64 wrote:

IOWA308 wrote:

swimmingman64 wrote: So I am going to come on here even though I am sure it will get ripped by many:)  But that is the freedom of speech and I did come on here.  

So just quickly.  While I realize that many are unhappy with Kirk I think he is a good head coach.  I will have to say I was a bit frustrated but I see it as a new OC and the players were not the ones he recruited.  I think we have to really wait until next year to judge him on that.  Anyway.

With Kirk we were bowl eligible for 11 straight years, even Hayden didn't do that.  I think the team this year was young.  With another year I think that we will do much better next year.  Maybe I am drinking the kool aid a bit, but I think that the players enjoy playing for him, and with the changes this year and a young team it was a tough go.  

He has shown in the past an ability to rebound.  So as a fan of the school, coach and team I am willing to be frustrated by this season but see what next year has in store.  

I predict we will be 9-3 with losses to Ohio St., Michigan and Wisconsin.  Although with today's news about BB, we might be able to go 10-2.  Again maybe I am drinking the kool aid, but I just don't think things are as bad as people say.

A lot of people on here are calling for Barta's head because he signed Kirk to a long term contract.  One these are the same people that wanted him locked up because he was constantly being courted by others.  Two I actually think the long term contract works in our favor.  In the next 8 years(since Kirk's contract ends in 2020) I see coaches salaries going even higher.  So theoretically Kirk's salary won't be looked at the same in a few years as it is now.  With all of the money coming in for college football and the new playoff coming, which I believe will make it even more ludacris, it actually works in our favor.

So that is my two cents worth.  I just don't see the reason for all of the negative stuff on the board.  I am a Hawkeye fan.  I want a coach who believes in his players and school.  I want athletes who want to be here and want to wear the black and gold.  For that I am willing to support them even in a down year.  Two recruits recently said this was the place for them, the didn't see the 4-8 mark as a trend, rather they saw it as an opportunity for them to come in and make a difference.  Those are the players I want.  

Okay guys, bash away. haha

PS- Oh, and everyone have a great holiday season, may your Christmas be merry and may all of you have a Great new year.  

Go Hawks!!

There are plenty of reason to rip into your thoughts about this coach and rediculous predictions for next year...but I am getting to a point of saying why bother, we stuck with this guy for several years.  However Fans like you and Draft Freak need to realize a few indisputable KEY realities.  Realities you tend to "skirt around" or avoid whenever you feel juiced up about KF.  This coach, for as much as he is paid, is not capable of bringing this program to an elite level again or bring us a national championship - dream all you want, but it ain't happening.  Number 2:  Our best years (high points) under KF since 2002 were due in large to Norm's defence and a few great classes that gave us talent on bothsides of the ball - it was not because of KF's great coaching abilities.  Number 3: This coach is not aggressive enough to put away teams in game time regulation or consistently beat lesser teams. If you can't consistenly beat lesser teams year and year out, you can forget about elite status folks.  Number 4:  After all of these seasons under KF, have we really seen any marked improvements with coaching or recruiting - a resounding NO! its been status quo - no changes.  Number 5:  When we are the ropes during close games that we need to win, this coach will not give us the best chance for victory, whether its play calling or not sending the best talent to the field - take your pick (if we do win a close one, its usually because the other team beats themselves or we get some crazy turnover or lucky break, but its not from outstanding coaching). Sorry guys, these are the realities and you'll be be hard pressed to argue against them.

Again these are not facts sir, they are only your opinion.

swimmingman64 wrote:

MississippiHawkeye wrote: I don't know you personally, but by saying you like Kirk, Im going to assume that you are a big fan of just being average, that you don't strive to improve in much that you do, that you lack creativity, that the idea of taking a even a small risk for a large reward scares the hell out of you, that you don't mind just handing money out to people who have done nothing to earn it, that you don't get fired up over too much situations even if you were wronged, and that you refuse to acknowledge that change can sometimes be a good thing.

Again, I don't mean this as a perosnal attack, but you are catching my drift with the innuendos (sp?).

Your right you don't know me.  You don't know that I have coached high school swimming for 20 years, won 18 league championships and a State Championship.  You don't know that my athletes have achieved all american over 120 times.   You don't know that I run 2 high school youth ministry programs at two different churches, that I teach PE full time and I coach.  You don't know that I went back to school and got my masters degree in Education. 

If you feel the program is average then that is your opinion, but when you throw out that my opinion for a team I think is not as bad off as  you should define me.  Then yes it is personal becuase you don't understand how to write a rational response and only feel that getting personal and trying to put someone down is your best way defending your position.

IOWA308 wrote:

swimmingman64 wrote:

IOWA308 wrote:

swimmingman64 wrote: So I am going to come on here even though I am sure it will get ripped by many:)  But that is the freedom of speech and I did come on here.  

So just quickly.  While I realize that many are unhappy with Kirk I think he is a good head coach.  I will have to say I was a bit frustrated but I see it as a new OC and the players were not the ones he recruited.  I think we have to really wait until next year to judge him on that.  Anyway.

With Kirk we were bowl eligible for 11 straight years, even Hayden didn't do that.  I think the team this year was young.  With another year I think that we will do much better next year.  Maybe I am drinking the kool aid a bit, but I think that the players enjoy playing for him, and with the changes this year and a young team it was a tough go.  

He has shown in the past an ability to rebound.  So as a fan of the school, coach and team I am willing to be frustrated by this season but see what next year has in store.  

I predict we will be 9-3 with losses to Ohio St., Michigan and Wisconsin.  Although with today's news about BB, we might be able to go 10-2.  Again maybe I am drinking the kool aid, but I just don't think things are as bad as people say.

A lot of people on here are calling for Barta's head because he signed Kirk to a long term contract.  One these are the same people that wanted him locked up because he was constantly being courted by others.  Two I actually think the long term contract works in our favor.  In the next 8 years(since Kirk's contract ends in 2020) I see coaches salaries going even higher.  So theoretically Kirk's salary won't be looked at the same in a few years as it is now.  With all of the money coming in for college football and the new playoff coming, which I believe will make it even more ludacris, it actually works in our favor.

So that is my two cents worth.  I just don't see the reason for all of the negative stuff on the board.  I am a Hawkeye fan.  I want a coach who believes in his players and school.  I want athletes who want to be here and want to wear the black and gold.  For that I am willing to support them even in a down year.  Two recruits recently said this was the place for them, the didn't see the 4-8 mark as a trend, rather they saw it as an opportunity for them to come in and make a difference.  Those are the players I want.  

Okay guys, bash away. haha

PS- Oh, and everyone have a great holiday season, may your Christmas be merry and may all of you have a Great new year.  

Go Hawks!!

There are plenty of reason to rip into your thoughts about this coach and rediculous predictions for next year...but I am getting to a point of saying why bother, we stuck with this guy for several years.  However Fans like you and Draft Freak need to realize a few indisputable KEY realities.  Realities you tend to "skirt around" or avoid whenever you feel juiced up about KF.  This coach, for as much as he is paid, is not capable of bringing this program to an elite level again or bring us a national championship - dream all you want, but it ain't happening.  Number 2:  Our best years (high points) under KF since 2002 were due in large to Norm's defence and a few great classes that gave us talent on bothsides of the ball - it was not because of KF's great coaching abilities.  Number 3: This coach is not aggressive enough to put away teams in game time regulation or consistently beat lesser teams. If you can't consistenly beat lesser teams year and year out, you can forget about elite status folks.  Number 4:  After all of these seasons under KF, have we really seen any marked improvements with coaching or recruiting - a resounding NO! its been status quo - no changes.  Number 5:  When we are the ropes during close games that we need to win, this coach will not give us the best chance for victory, whether its play calling or not sending the best talent to the field - take your pick (if we do win a close one, its usually because the other team beats themselves or we get some crazy turnover or lucky break, but its not from outstanding coaching). Sorry guys, these are the realities and you'll be be hard pressed to argue against them.

Again these are not facts sir, they are only your opinion.

You can dance all you want around the "REALITIES" of my response.  KF is a great guy, but he is an average coach in the BIG with a few signature years under his belt. Records/results don't lie. A majority of Iowa fans expect more from this coach under his salary and tenure with Iowa, that is a fact...not an opinion sir.  We Haven't seen dominance on this team since Norm left, that is a fact.  We've become the new doormat of the BIG conference this season, that is a fact. KF was riding the coat tails of Norm's great defenses - that is my opinion, but I'm sticking to it. A winning program starts with a great coach - we aren't there - that is a fact.

swimmingman64 wrote:

hawkeye4life68 wrote:

swimmingman64 wrote: So I am going to come on here even though I am sure it will get ripped by many:)  But that is the freedom of speech and I did come on here.  

So just quickly.  While I realize that many are unhappy with Kirk I think he is a good head coach.  I will have to say I was a bit frustrated but I see it as a new OC and the players were not the ones he recruited.  I think we have to really wait until next year to judge him on that.  Anyway.

With Kirk we were bowl eligible for 11 straight years, even Hayden didn't do that.  I think the team this year was young.  With another year I think that we will do much better next year.  Maybe I am drinking the kool aid a bit, but I think that the players enjoy playing for him, and with the changes this year and a young team it was a tough go.  

He has shown in the past an ability to rebound.  So as a fan of the school, coach and team I am willing to be frustrated by this season but see what next year has in store.  

I predict we will be 9-3 with losses to Ohio St., Michigan and Wisconsin.  Although with today's news about BB, we might be able to go 10-2.  Again maybe I am drinking the kool aid, but I just don't think things are as bad as people say.

A lot of people on here are calling for Barta's head because he signed Kirk to a long term contract.  One these are the same people that wanted him locked up because he was constantly being courted by others.  Two I actually think the long term contract works in our favor.  In the next 8 years(since Kirk's contract ends in 2020) I see coaches salaries going even higher.  So theoretically Kirk's salary won't be looked at the same in a few years as it is now.  With all of the money coming in for college football and the new playoff coming, which I believe will make it even more ludacris, it actually works in our favor.

So that is my two cents worth.  I just don't see the reason for all of the negative stuff on the board.  I am a Hawkeye fan.  I want a coach who believes in his players and school.  I want athletes who want to be here and want to wear the black and gold.  For that I am willing to support them even in a down year.  Two recruits recently said this was the place for them, the didn't see the 4-8 mark as a trend, rather they saw it as an opportunity for them to come in and make a difference.  Those are the players I want.  

Okay guys, bash away. haha

PS- Oh, and everyone have a great holiday season, may your Christmas be merry and may all of you have a Great new year.  

Go Hawks!!

I don't like Kirk.

I guess I just expect a guy who makes 4 million and has perks like access to a private jet and free cars to give a flying frick about the fact that his teams can't make first downs or score and that he looks like a complete buffoon managing the last two minutes of a half and actually recognize those deficiencies and do something that has a REAL chance of resolving those issues.

Guess I'm just crazy like that.

Your not crazy, that is what you see and that is fine, but again, you are writing your opinion here and not facts.  I respect that I get frustrated to, but I just see the glass half full here.  We just have different vision.

IOWA308 wrote: SWIMMINGMAN64:  Fact, this is not a message board to dicuss graduation and academics at Iowa, its a forum about our football program, which has taking a nose dive.  You keep using the word FACT....well 99% of everything you have said in this thread is opinion, an opinion which I think derived from being in denial.  We won't agree, youre right. But when you started this post, you admitted that you may be ripped.....but youre not handling it very well, so just let it ride out dude - after all, you were expecting it, so don't go on a rampage like you have to all the posters who don't agree with you. 

KF375 wrote:

IOWA308 wrote: SWIMMINGMAN64:  Fact, this is not a message board to dicuss graduation and academics at Iowa, its a forum about our football program, which has taking a nose dive.  You keep using the word FACT....well 99% of everything you have said in this thread is opinion, an opinion which I think derived from being in denial.  We won't agree, youre right. But when you started this post, you admitted that you may be ripped.....but youre not handling it very well, so just let it ride out dude - after all, you were expecting it, so don't go on a rampage like you have to all the posters who don't agree with you. 

This ^^

Also thanks for letting us know all of your credentials, since you weren't going to mention them.

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Sorry lindley...but its hard to sit idle anymore with posts like this with the trends we've seen.

IOWA308 wrote: Really KF375? Look at your posts for the last week and get back with me. Are you a camillion? You've been beating the hell out the same horse.

IOWA308 wrote: Really KF375? Look at your posts for the last week and get back with me. Are you a camillion? You've been beating the hell out the same horse.

swimmingman64 wrote: So I am going to come on here even though I am sure it will get ripped by many:)  But that is the freedom of speech and I did come on here.  

So just quickly.  While I realize that many are unhappy with Kirk I think he is a good head coach.  I will have to say I was a bit frustrated but I see it as a new OC and the players were not the ones he recruited.  I think we have to really wait until next year to judge him on that.  Anyway.

With Kirk we were bowl eligible for 11 straight years, even Hayden didn't do that.  I think the team this year was young.  With another year I think that we will do much better next year.  Maybe I am drinking the kool aid a bit, but I think that the players enjoy playing for him, and with the changes this year and a young team it was a tough go.  

He has shown in the past an ability to rebound.  So as a fan of the school, coach and team I am willing to be frustrated by this season but see what next year has in store.  

I predict we will be 9-3 with losses to Ohio St., Michigan and Wisconsin.  Although with today's news about BB, we might be able to go 10-2.  Again maybe I am drinking the kool aid, but I just don't think things are as bad as people say.

A lot of people on here are calling for Barta's head because he signed Kirk to a long term contract.  One these are the same people that wanted him locked up because he was constantly being courted by others.  Two I actually think the long term contract works in our favor.  In the next 8 years(since Kirk's contract ends in 2020) I see coaches salaries going even higher.  So theoretically Kirk's salary won't be looked at the same in a few years as it is now.  With all of the money coming in for college football and the new playoff coming, which I believe will make it even more ludacris, it actually works in our favor.

So that is my two cents worth.  I just don't see the reason for all of the negative stuff on the board.  I am a Hawkeye fan.  I want a coach who believes in his players and school.  I want athletes who want to be here and want to wear the black and gold.  For that I am willing to support them even in a down year.  Two recruits recently said this was the place for them, the didn't see the 4-8 mark as a trend, rather they saw it as an opportunity for them to come in and make a difference.  Those are the players I want.  

Okay guys, bash away. haha

PS- Oh, and everyone have a great holiday season, may your Christmas be merry and may all of you have a Great new year.  

Go Hawks!!

swimmingman64 wrote: So I am going to come on here even though I am sure it will get ripped by many:)  But that is the freedom of speech and I did come on here.  

So just quickly.  While I realize that many are unhappy with Kirk I think he is a good head coach.  I will have to say I was a bit frustrated but I see it as a new OC and the players were not the ones he recruited.  I think we have to really wait until next year to judge him on that.  Anyway.

With Kirk we were bowl eligible for 11 straight years, even Hayden didn't do that.  I think the team this year was young.  With another year I think that we will do much better next year.  Maybe I am drinking the kool aid a bit, but I think that the players enjoy playing for him, and with the changes this year and a young team it was a tough go.  

He has shown in the past an ability to rebound.  So as a fan of the school, coach and team I am willing to be frustrated by this season but see what next year has in store.  

I predict we will be 9-3 with losses to Ohio St., Michigan and Wisconsin.  Although with today's news about BB, we might be able to go 10-2.  Again maybe I am drinking the kool aid, but I just don't think things are as bad as people say.

A lot of people on here are calling for Barta's head because he signed Kirk to a long term contract.  One these are the same people that wanted him locked up because he was constantly being courted by others.  Two I actually think the long term contract works in our favor.  In the next 8 years(since Kirk's contract ends in 2020) I see coaches salaries going even higher.  So theoretically Kirk's salary won't be looked at the same in a few years as it is now.  With all of the money coming in for college football and the new playoff coming, which I believe will make it even more ludacris, it actually works in our favor.

So that is my two cents worth.  I just don't see the reason for all of the negative stuff on the board.  I am a Hawkeye fan.  I want a coach who believes in his players and school.  I want athletes who want to be here and want to wear the black and gold.  For that I am willing to support them even in a down year.  Two recruits recently said this was the place for them, the didn't see the 4-8 mark as a trend, rather they saw it as an opportunity for them to come in and make a difference.  Those are the players I want.  

Okay guys, bash away. haha

PS- Oh, and everyone have a great holiday season, may your Christmas be merry and may all of you have a Great new year.  

Go Hawks!!

MicahHershberger wrote:

swimmingman64 wrote: So I am going to come on here even though I am sure it will get ripped by many:)  But that is the freedom of speech and I did come on here.  

So just quickly.  While I realize that many are unhappy with Kirk I think he is a good head coach.  I will have to say I was a bit frustrated but I see it as a new OC and the players were not the ones he recruited.  I think we have to really wait until next year to judge him on that.  Anyway.

With Kirk we were bowl eligible for 11 straight years, even Hayden didn't do that.  I think the team this year was young.  With another year I think that we will do much better next year.  Maybe I am drinking the kool aid a bit, but I think that the players enjoy playing for him, and with the changes this year and a young team it was a tough go.  

He has shown in the past an ability to rebound.  So as a fan of the school, coach and team I am willing to be frustrated by this season but see what next year has in store.  

I predict we will be 9-3 with losses to Ohio St., Michigan and Wisconsin.  Although with today's news about BB, we might be able to go 10-2.  Again maybe I am drinking the kool aid, but I just don't think things are as bad as people say.

A lot of people on here are calling for Barta's head because he signed Kirk to a long term contract.  One these are the same people that wanted him locked up because he was constantly being courted by others.  Two I actually think the long term contract works in our favor.  In the next 8 years(since Kirk's contract ends in 2020) I see coaches salaries going even higher.  So theoretically Kirk's salary won't be looked at the same in a few years as it is now.  With all of the money coming in for college football and the new playoff coming, which I believe will make it even more ludacris, it actually works in our favor.

So that is my two cents worth.  I just don't see the reason for all of the negative stuff on the board.  I am a Hawkeye fan.  I want a coach who believes in his players and school.  I want athletes who want to be here and want to wear the black and gold.  For that I am willing to support them even in a down year.  Two recruits recently said this was the place for them, the didn't see the 4-8 mark as a trend, rather they saw it as an opportunity for them to come in and make a difference.  Those are the players I want.  

Okay guys, bash away. haha

PS- Oh, and everyone have a great holiday season, may your Christmas be merry and may all of you have a Great new year.  

Go Hawks!!

I don't understand this mindset, but to each his own I guess.  I live in Nashville, and watching the SEC just continually get stronger and to see Iowa and the B1G get continually weaker is frustrating.

And to think that Ferentz is more highly paid than most of the SEC coaches, yet continues to produce an increasingly irrelevant product, then refuses to acknowledge that there is even a hint of a problem...is again, frustrating.

And then watching half the fan base exist in a vacuum where they simply don't care about competing...is even more frustrating.