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Posted: 12/3/2012 6:01 PM
Barta Not Sure???
http://www.cbssports.com/colle...eports/21245751Wow. The Black Friday "Rivalry" game with Nebby was a gift from the BIG on a national stage and Barta wants to walk away from it? It shouldn't be (entirely) about the 70k fans that fill the stadium on a Friday; rather, the millions upon millions of t.v. sets watching this game. It's "the only game in town." Are Barta and KF feeling too much pressure to field a competitive team on a national stage? This is an opportunity to draw a line in the sand, each season, and show a national audience that Iows can take it to Nebby!
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Posted: 12/3/2012 6:11 PM
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If Barta screws with this....it's nail in the coffin...he needs to go!!!!!
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Posted: 12/3/2012 6:37 PM
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I for one don't like the game on Friday. It's the day after Thanksgiving. No thanks.  |
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Posted: 12/3/2012 6:49 PM
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I am for continuing the game on Friday. It gives us national exposure and that can help recruiting. By Barta saying he is not sure, then who in hell in the athletic department is sure? Is KF and the gang about ready to run away from this challenge? If so, I believe it is an indicator how far this program has fallen.
Let's see what Rudock can do!
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Posted: 12/3/2012 6:55 PM
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I'm starting to think Barta and KF are double agents from Ames hell-bent on making this a Cyclone state.
Their kind of stupidity and stubborness isn't possible without being driven by some kind of purpose.
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Posted: 12/3/2012 6:57 PM
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Barta hopes to schedule NIACC at that time instead. has to run in by the Capt' first........
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Posted: 12/3/2012 6:58 PM
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hawkytalk wrote: I for one don't like the game on Friday. It's the day after Thanksgiving. No thanks. What the hell were they thinking! Iowa should not play on any day that ends in Y . Its bad for our image. |
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Posted: 12/3/2012 7:03 PM
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Time to fire them all. Unfortunately, the university president is a pantywaist who looks down on football as just a bunch of mindless brutes who serve no purpose in life. She would like nothing more than for it all to just go away. If football didn't bring in the cash that it did that is exactly what she would do: Get rid of the whole thing.
She won't fire Barta. She is probably the one encouraging him to be a wuss.
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Posted: 12/3/2012 7:05 PM
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Good old Barta. Whatever Kirk wants, we shall do. Unbelievable but what do you expect from this coach and AD. National exposure on ABC with no other games and they want to walk away from it. Tells me they are scared and afraid of getting taken to the woodshed next year at their place and every year after.
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Posted: 12/3/2012 7:15 PM
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I find this quote interesting: "One of the challenges, and I've talked to a lot of our fans that say a Friday is more challenging. They're trying to be with family on Thanksgiving and then they try to get to Iowa City..."
However, he doesn't appear to be hearing the fans that are complaining about the direction of the football program over the past few years. Maybe he hears that, but if he did, he would understand the importance of keeping this "Black Friday" game. Its about recruiting!!
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Posted: 12/3/2012 7:22 PM
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ArvadaHawk wrote: I find this quote interesting: "One of the challenges, and I've talked to a lot of our fans that say a Friday is more challenging. They're trying to be with family on Thanksgiving and then they try to get to Iowa City..."
However, he doesn't appear to be hearing the fans that are complaining about the direction of the football program over the past few years. Maybe he hears that, but if he did, he would understand the importance of keeping this "Black Friday" game. Its about recruiting!! Yeah......recruiting FOR NEBRASKA! So that every time we go up against them for a recruit, they can point to this game and say "did you see what we did to them on Black Friday?!?" |
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Posted: 12/3/2012 7:24 PM
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Saturday works for me
To much drama around here
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Posted: 12/3/2012 7:35 PM
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ArvadaHawk wrote: I find this quote interesting: "One of the challenges, and I've talked to a lot of our fans that say a Friday is more challenging. They're trying to be with family on Thanksgiving and then they try to get to Iowa City..."
However, he doesn't appear to be hearing the fans that are complaining about the direction of the football program over the past few years. Maybe he hears that, but if he did, he would understand the importance of keeping this "Black Friday" game. Its about recruiting!! So is this the first time he's given this point consideration? You'd think that when they were discussing whether or not to do this years ago, maybe they'd have thunk... 'hey, a Friday might be more challenging, and it might be tight for people spending time with family to get to I.C.' Seems to me it would've been a point of discussion back then before they decided to do it. But, knowing the braintrust we've got steering our ship, maybe not. |
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Posted: 12/3/2012 7:56 PM
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If we continue on the path we are on with this coaching staff and boring style of football we would be better off not being in the spotlight by playing on friday, this only hurts our recruiting |
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Posted: 12/3/2012 8:09 PM
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Posted: 12/4/2012 6:21 AM
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hawkytalk wrote: I for one don't like the game on Friday. It's the day after Thanksgiving. No thanks. And your point is relevant because?? |
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:24 AM
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Nebraska will immediately dump Iowa in 2014 when expansion kicks in for another B1G opponent if Iowa opts out of the Friday time slot and we'll be back to playing Minnesota to end the season. Zzzzzzzzz.
I'm not crazy about the Black Friday thing either, but for the exposure it brings on ABC as the national game and the chance it gives Iowa to play a nationally recognized program like the Huskers before the entire country, Iowa would be crazy to opt out.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 8:28 AM
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Hawkman85 wrote: Nebraska will immediately dump Iowa in 2014 when expansion kicks in for another B1G opponent if Iowa opts out of the Friday time slot and we'll be back to playing Minnesota to end the season. Zzzzzzzzz.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 9:59 AM
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Yeah, why play on Black Friday in front of a national audience? When we could be playing on the BTN opposite the Michigan vs OSU game. And to the above poster, Nebby doesn't call the shots, but the league is not going to give up the time slot, so they will just schedule another opponent for Nebby, and we will wind up playing Minny opposite "the game" for the Legends basement. Good call Gary. Ranks right up there with giving KF a lifetime contract.  We can't fire Ferentz for another 4 years because of his buyout. But we can sure as hell get rid of our worthless coordinators and AD!!
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Posted: 12/4/2012 1:30 PM
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kungfuyou wrote:
Barta hopes to schedule NIACC at that time instead. has to run in by the Capt' first........ LOVE this comment. ha! Keep the Bettendorf Bulldog recruiting chain going right on through Iowa City!!!
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Posted: 12/4/2012 1:39 PM
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With the current situation at Iowa, what are the odds of Iowa beating Nebraska? Its a nice thought, but getting beat by Nebraska on a national stage every year doesn't seem that appealing. If they played at another time, the odds of Iowa beating nebraska would be greater.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 1:42 PM
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They have a big say in who they finish the season with, like any other program does, and the B1G will probably accommodate them if another team shows interest in playing on Fridays after Thanksgiving. HawkDrummer wrote:
Hawkman85 wrote: Nebraska will immediately dump Iowa in 2014 when expansion kicks in for another B1G opponent if Iowa opts out of the Friday time slot and we'll be back to playing Minnesota to end the season. Zzzzzzzzz.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 2:05 PM
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Tierney wrote: With the current situation at Iowa, what are the odds of Iowa beating Nebraska? Its a nice thought, but getting beat by Nebraska on a national stage every year doesn't seem that appealing. If they played at another time, the odds of Iowa beating nebraska would be greater. Are you suggesting Iowa's chances of beating Nebby would increase if they were to NOT play on Friday? |
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Posted: 12/4/2012 2:27 PM
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SanAntonioHawksFan wrote:
Tierney wrote: With the current situation at Iowa, what are the odds of Iowa beating Nebraska? Its a nice thought, but getting beat by Nebraska on a national stage every year doesn't seem that appealing. If they played at another time, the odds of Iowa beating nebraska would be greater.
Are you suggesting Iowa's chances of beating Nebby would increase if they were to NOT play on Friday? It would increase if we just didnt play em |
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Posted: 12/4/2012 3:15 PM
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ArvadaHawk wrote: http://www.cbssports.com/colle...eports/21245751
Wow. The Black Friday "Rivalry" game with Nebby was a gift from the BIG on a national stage and Barta wants to walk away from it? It shouldn't be (entirely) about the 70k fans that fill the stadium on a Friday; rather, the millions upon millions of t.v. sets watching this game. It's "the only game in town."
Are Barta and KF feeling too much pressure to field a competitive team on a national stage? This is an opportunity to draw a line in the sand, each season, and show a national audience that Iows can take it to Nebby! He talked about this before and about his issues with it. It sounded like they will probably do it but he is concerned about the students being out of town on a friday night after Thanksgiving and missing the game and instead those students selling their tickets to Nebby fans. Normally they have another day to get back for the game but Nebraska wants it on Friday. National tv is great but national tv with Kinnick red is not so good. That's his issue and it's valid, to me, for him to see what he can do about it before he agrees to do it again. 
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Posted: 12/4/2012 3:35 PM
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Look at the future schedules . . . official Iowa and Nebraska sites have the game being played on Saturday in 2013. Why is this a story. Black Friday is over.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 6:58 PM
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 The football team is headed to being only watched on computer streaming!!! Maybe this is what Barta wants. |
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:25 PM
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Economically for a suitdouche like Barta, it would make sense to do that so people are more "forced" to attend the game in person, driving up ticket prices. Too bad that university isn't getting my money until KF leaves or better yet, fired. Which is a long way off. harleyhawkeye wrote: The football team is headed to being only watched on computer streaming!!! Maybe this is what Barta wants. |
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Posted: 12/4/2012 8:11 PM
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DRAFTFREAK wrote:
ArvadaHawk wrote: http://www.cbssports.com/colle...eports/21245751
Wow. The Black Friday "Rivalry" game with Nebby was a gift from the BIG on a national stage and Barta wants to walk away from it? It shouldn't be (entirely) about the 70k fans that fill the stadium on a Friday; rather, the millions upon millions of t.v. sets watching this game. It's "the only game in town."
Are Barta and KF feeling too much pressure to field a competitive team on a national stage? This is an opportunity to draw a line in the sand, each season, and show a national audience that Iows can take it to Nebby!
He talked about this before and about his issues with it. It sounded like they will probably do it but he is concerned about the students being out of town on a friday night after Thanksgiving and missing the game and instead those students selling their tickets to Nebby fans. Normally they have another day to get back for the game but Nebraska wants it on Friday. National tv is great but national tv with Kinnick red is not so good. That's his issue and it's valid, to me, for him to see what he can do about it before he agrees to do it again. Sorry Freak, usually I agree with you, but the only reason that Kinnick has red in it on Black Friday is because Barta tied his career to Ferentz 3 years ago. If he's really concerned about selling seats he needs to seriously consider a coaching change. Fans are by and large sick of Kirk's obstinate attitude and broken record excuses. Iowa fans are among the most passionate fans in the country and there is no way that students sell their tickets to Nebby fans if they feel like they have a reason to be hopeful, but unfortunately, Ferentz has chipped away at that hope for even some of the most committed fans - like myself. |
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Posted: 12/4/2012 9:50 PM
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Thank goodness hawkytalk isn't our AD. Don't quit your day job at the post office If Barta gives up this national time slot, he needs to be sent packing. Actually, he needs to be sent packing if he's even considering giving up this time slot. The B10 won't give it up. If we don't want this gem, everybody would gladly take it, and it will never come back. I can't believe somebody at the AD level of a major university, is having this much trouble seeing the big picture. Our football program has bigger problems than I could have imagined. hawkytalk wrote: I for one don't like the game on Friday. It's the day after Thanksgiving. No thanks.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 10:42 PM
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theiowahawkeye wrote: Time to fire them all. Unfortunately, the university president is a pantywaist who looks down on football as just a bunch of mindless brutes who serve no purpose in life. She would like nothing more than for it all to just go away. If football didn't bring in the cash that it did that is exactly what she would do: Get rid of the whole thing.
She won't fire Barta. She is probably the one encouraging him to be a wuss. Burn down the University! oh, by the way, it's "panty waste" as in "you're a waste!" |
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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:22 AM
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It doesn't sound like this is that attitude of many poeple here, but I will address it to the people who feel playing on the Friday after Thanksgiving is just too much of an inconvenience or that it should go back to Satruday to give people time to go to the game. Here is my opinion: If you love IOwa football and you want your university to succeed, who cares what day the game is, just go to the game! People want to think of Iowa as "big time" and talk about Iowa as "big time" and have "big time" expectations, but it is attitudes like this of our AD and attitudes of our fan base like this that keep Iowa from being big time. A 4-win Arkansas team and fan base that had just lost 45-14 to Mississippi State had no problem filling up theri 72,500 seat stadium to play LSU on Friday. It was the national CBS game on that Friday. Do you think either team cares that its the day after Thanksgiving? That is great exposure adn great $. A struggling Texas team had 99,950 on Thanksgiving night to play a mediocre TCU team. It was the only game on that night. Nearly 100,000 people could care less that it was T'giving night. It meant that UT and TCU were getting national exposure and the nation was watching them, not to mention getting big time TV dollars. Nebraska had 85,595 at their game against Iowa last year on the day after Thanksgiving. Probably would have 100,000 if their stadium could hold that many. So someone please explain to me why the Iowa fan base can't fill Kinnick and why this is even an issue for this university to consider taking this game away fromt he natnional tv sets, the potential for a new "rivalry" and the chance to play one of the storied programs of college football on a weekend that gets more exposure and press than any other weekend of college football. I realize it ws a down year for Iowa football, but tucking our tail and running because of a little adversity is not the answer. hawkytalk wrote: I for one don't like the game on Friday. It's the day after Thanksgiving. No thanks. 
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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:11 PM
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Posted: 12/7/2012 7:23 AM
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Here is my take on Barta wanting to move this game back to Saturday:
1. He is afraid being on National TV and getting embarassed by Nebraska is not good for the program.
2. It isn't so much a competitive issue as it is he would just like to play the game on Saturday for the fans.
If it is #1, that is an major issue that is bigger than just the game on TV. Because first off, it isn't like Nebraska has ran Iowa off the field the last two games we have played on Friday. But if he feels we are not being competitive and are going to be less competitive in the future and doesn't want the program to be hurt by the showings, isn't that an indictment on the program as a whole and especially an indictment on the coaching staff; the fact that he doesn't believe we will be fielding good enough teams to be competitive against Nebraska on National TV.
If that is the case, then he should start making changes in coaching. That is his job. If the team is starting to lose prestige and the ability to win, it is his job to go make a change.
If it is #2, it again is a major issue. Our fans should be willing ot attend the game on Friday if they are fans. We claim to have the best fans in the Big 10, we claim to be a big time program, so we should act like other big tme programs and big time fan bases and attend the game regardless. Barta is refusing to see the Big Picture and the idea that this game on a Friday can become a marquee game because of its possible potential of being a major "rivalry" and national game if both teams were to ever get back to the prominance that they are capable of. Moving the game to Saturday and getting lost in the suffle of all the other major games, including Mich/Ohio State, Alabama/Auburn, ND/USC etc... is certianly not going to bring more exposure to the University.
So the idea of moving this game, for whatever the reason, shows me their is a lack of leadership and confidence in the Athletic Department, and something shoudl be done! It proves that the athletic department and Barta are content with the direction of the program (downhill) and are content with simply being average, which to me is unacceptable.
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Posted: 12/7/2012 8:40 AM
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I'd prefer Saturday 2:30 after mich/osu. I missed Thanksgiving with my family because of the 11am Friday game.
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Posted: 12/7/2012 9:00 AM
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EstronHawk wrote: I'd prefer Saturday 2:30 after mich/osu. I missed Thanksgiving with my family because of the 11am Friday game. As would most in an ideal world, but if it means big TV money and national exposure and the potential of making this a rivalry game with Nebraska, then I say play it on Friday. If you play on Saturday, you are competitng with A Lot of national games. On Friday, you are likely the only game on a major tv station at that time other than Ark/LSU on CBS. Im not knocking people for wanting to be with their families for T'giving. I get that. But lets be realistic. TV exposure is important. Most programs that we consider elite will fill a stadium regardless of what day it is on. Is Iowa elite? Is our fan base elite? If the answer is yes to both, then we will go to the Friday game and root on the Hawks and not complain about it because it is what is good for the program and the success of the program. |
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Posted: 12/7/2012 9:26 AM
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This game is a "Big Picture" event for the football program and Iowa needs to grasp the opportunity and make it work. Iowa has only one guaranteed game, per season, to be the national game of the week, so to speak. Why on earth would we want to willingly give that up?
We would all like to be with family during this time; let's think about the recruits that are with their families watching football. They'll be watching Iowa. If we have realized anything concrete, as a fan base, this season it is that it IS about recruiting.
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