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Posted: 11/13/2012 1:33 AM
Short list. Possible replacement HC in next 2 years.
Don' think replacment will occur this year absent extraordianary developments, and heaven forbid it would be adverse health. Here is my short list:
Bobby Diaco
Mark Stoops
Brett Beliema
I presume that the next HC would have Iowa connections, but maybe not. I don't think there is a Kirk Ferentz coaching tree? What other possiblities?
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Posted: 11/13/2012 8:30 AM
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I've been thinking about this and my take is that we look for a top Division 2A coach with a low but higher pay then what he is getting now if things don't work Iowa has the option to pay another coach less then what their paying now for a Division 1 coach if we where to make an offer to the mark stoops and Bobby Diaco now they will probably want something close to what we are paying for a coach that hasn't won a national championship take a look at or Oregon Chip Kelly came from a D2A New Hampshire
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Posted: 11/13/2012 8:42 AM
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Dream on. Our coach is not going anywhere,why even post this garbage?
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Posted: 11/13/2012 8:52 AM
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I've been thinking about this and my take is that we look for a top Division 2A coach with a low but higher pay then what he is getting now if things don't work Iowa has the option to pay another coach less then what their paying now for a Division 1 coach if we where to make an offer to the mark stoops and Bobby Diaco now they will probably want something close to what we are paying for a coach that hasn't won a national championship take a look at or Oregon Chip Kelly came from a D2A New Hampshire
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I would hate this approach. At the end of the day, I want an Iowa guy running the program if possible. I guess if none of the top Iowa guys want the job, or there isn't anyone qualified enough, then we look outside the program.
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Posted: 11/13/2012 8:59 AM
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Ferentz stays for reasons we all know. But, I think we look into paying the money on the buyout if we don't start seeing 8-9 win seasons beginning with the 2014 season. If the University has to pay Ferentz big money for the buyout, expect to see a nobody coach come in at around $1.5-$2 million per season.
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Posted: 11/13/2012 11:43 PM
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MidwestHawk wrote: Ferentz stays for reasons we all know. But, I think we look into paying the money on the buyout if we don't start seeing 8-9 win seasons beginning with the 2014 season. If the University has to pay Ferentz big money for the buyout, expect to see a nobody coach come in at around $1.5-$2 million per season. I don't anticipate another win this season. One more season of 4-8 ball and the Ferentz era will end. The fans are restless. It is not just the results that have looked bad but the on field coaching looks bad. The postgame presser after Purdue didn't help him. Sousaphone bandstrut. |
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Posted: 11/14/2012 12:15 AM
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hawkytalk wrote: Dream on. Our coach is not going anywhere,why even post this garbage? This is true. Ferentz won't get fired....but should he decide he has had enough and retires....my short list wouldn't change. 1.) Bob Stoops - Call has to be made. Both Stoop and his wife love Iowa. Regardless, I don't think Stoops will leave OU, he has a terrific gig down there, plus he is friends with KF. That alone might steer him clear of Iowa for now. 2.) Bob Diaco - Has paid his dues and knows what Iowa is all about. Could bring along Kerry Cooks as DC. I could easily replace Stoops with Diaco/Cooks combo. Time for outside the box candidates... 3.) Manny Diaz - Young guy with tons of recruiting ties. Might be a quick fix, but Iowa has made it apparent they are willing to pony up the money. I'd take my chances. Someone will get him as HC, might as well be Iowa that takes the chance. 4.) Greg Roman - I really like this guy. Lots of experience throught the ranks. If we don't get him, someone else will. |
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Posted: 11/14/2012 11:46 AM
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Diaco would be a great candidate: While Brian Kelly would love more than anything to keep him, the fact is that he will be a hot candidate for a head coaching job. You don't put together a defense like this and not get at least a few phone calls and interviews. While I am not sure if Diaco desires to be a head coach, it has to be assumed that his name will be brought up for different vacancies around college football.
In the meantime, Notre Dame should appreciate Diaco while we have him and enjoy for rest of this year to see the excellent defensive work he has been doing. Hopefully, he will still be there for the bowl game and beyond, but if not, I think all Notre Dame fans will root for him to succeed as a head coach, wherever that is.
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Posted: 11/14/2012 1:40 PM
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Mark Stoops? Seriously?
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Posted: 11/14/2012 2:06 PM
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Coach Ferentz is not going is not going any where. But if he does I was wondering about a guy like Kliff Kingsbury OC down at Teas A&M and former Texas tech QB. I was hoping that when Okeefe left there was a 1% chance theyd go after some young upcomming guy not a guy thats in the twilight of his career. |
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Posted: 11/14/2012 2:25 PM
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That is a tough call. In reality, a lot will change on the coaching landscape by the time we can even really think about our next coach. Kirk is here for at least two more years -- most likely three. By then, who nows who the next "hot coach" will be.
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Posted: 11/14/2012 2:48 PM
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hawkfan1983 wrote:Coach Ferentz is not going is not going any where. But if he does I was wondering about a guy like Kliff Kingsbury OC down at Teas A&M and former Texas tech QB. I was hoping that when Okeefe left there was a 1% chance theyd go after some young upcomming guy not a guy thats in the twilight of his career. I agree with this. Ferentz is not going anywhere and I hope that he gets things turned around. I wish we would have got a young, innovative OC with a little experience to take KOK's place. Someone who realizes that the head coaching job will be vacant in a few years. Someone who would really open up the offense. |
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Posted: 11/14/2012 3:52 PM
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WizardHawk wrote:
hawkytalk wrote: Dream on. Our coach is not going anywhere,why even post this garbage? This is true. Ferentz won't get fired....but should he decide he has had enough and retires....my short list wouldn't change.
1.) Bob Stoops - Call has to be made. Both Stoop and his wife love Iowa. Regardless, I don't think Stoops will leave OU, he has a terrific gig down there, plus he is friends with KF. That alone might steer him clear of Iowa for now.
2.) Bob Diaco - Has paid his dues and knows what Iowa is all about. Could bring along Kerry Cooks as DC. I could easily replace Stoops with Diaco/Cooks combo.
Time for outside the box candidates...
3.) Manny Diaz - Young guy with tons of recruiting ties. Might be a quick fix, but Iowa has made it apparent they are willing to pony up the money. I'd take my chances. Someone will get him as HC, might as well be Iowa that takes the chance.
4.) Greg Roman - I really like this guy. Lots of experience throught the ranks. If we don't get him, someone else will. Bob Stoops? I can just hear it now, "We paid Bob Stoops $6.8M a year for mediocre". |
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Posted: 11/14/2012 4:33 PM
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floridahawk wrote: Diaco would be a great candidate:
While Brian Kelly would love more than anything to keep him, the fact is that he will be a hot candidate for a head coaching job. You don't put together a defense like this and not get at least a few phone calls and interviews. While I am not sure if Diaco desires to be a head coach, it has to be assumed that his name will be brought up for different vacancies around college football.
In the meantime, Notre Dame should appreciate Diaco while we have him and enjoy for rest of this year to see the excellent defensive work he has been doing. Hopefully, he will still be there for the bowl game and beyond, but if not, I think all Notre Dame fans will root for him to succeed as a head coach, wherever that is.
http://bleacherreport.com/arti...-still-have-him Other than this year, has Diaco coached a top defense? |
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Posted: 11/14/2012 4:42 PM
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Rick Majerus
Bruce Pearl
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Posted: 11/14/2012 4:56 PM
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Weaned wrote: Rick Majerus
Bruce Pearl Bob Knight Tom Izzo dark horse: Phil Jackson "As a staff, we're most interested in what a player has from the neck up. We want to know about his family. Did he have a brother -was he successful; did he have a sister - was she successful?" Chris Doyle
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Posted: 11/14/2012 5:49 PM
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bill snyder
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Posted: 11/14/2012 6:12 PM
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Earl 'The Goat' Manigault
Bobby 'The Brain' Heenan
Roscoe P. Coletrain
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Posted: 11/14/2012 6:42 PM
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Chris Peterson....
That there...that's an RV.
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Posted: 11/14/2012 6:54 PM
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Let's come back to earth. Neither Bowlsby or Barta have hired or will hire anyone without D1 Head coaching experience.
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Posted: 11/14/2012 7:12 PM
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Here is the Jim Walden band
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Posted: 11/14/2012 8:01 PM
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dukeslater wrote: Let's come back to earth. Neither Bowlsby or Barta have hired or will hire anyone without D1 Head coaching experience. Ferentz coached at Maine, which was and still is an FCS program. I personally wouldn't have a problem with an experienced FCS coach. "Some hits will break your bones, but a Bob Sanders hit will liquify your spleen."
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Posted: 11/14/2012 8:27 PM
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All I know is that Iowa needs to start hiring young guys who are open to the changing style of the college game. It seems as though Iowa is always dead set on hiring seasoned guys with experience. I can see why that would be beneficial, but times are changing faster than ever.
It's time to hire guys who have success running progressive schemes and have shown that they can win games with mediocre players, unlike Davis who can only succeed with 5 star guys apparently.
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Posted: 11/14/2012 8:31 PM
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bill belchick for ferentz. ferentz can take over for the NE Pats. it's a win win in la la land. if this doesn't work we can always go after don patterson to take over the offense again. he seemed to get about as much crap as kok and yet still be a major upgrade. why even bother with any of these lame ideas and just wheelchair hayden back out there, seems to work for ksu.
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Posted: 11/14/2012 10:15 PM
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Why is everyone so high on Diaco? From what I remember of him at Rutgers he was well respected and thought of, but the word then was he was not head coaching material. It hasn't been that long - what's changed?
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Posted: 11/14/2012 11:34 PM
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Roman would be a nightmare. We'd have to entertain another round of NFL rumors following him around. Hell, he'd probably hire KF's agent! That way the two of them can run the same ol' racket Bingo Barta's ignorant azz.
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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:21 AM
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I am curious as to what everyone means by an "Iowa Guy". Someone that was groomed under Ferentz? Someone who simply played at Iowa? If so, you will likely get the same old boring play calling and predictable offense along with someone who has very little piss and vengar about their personality. If we are talkiong about someone from way before Ferentz, I can see that, but I wouldn't hold my breath about Diaco or Beilema, so who does that leave. I think Iowa needs to think outside the box a little with our next hire and get someone who is very good at what they teach and what they do in terms of offense or defense. Either a true offensive minded coach who can then go out and hire a good defensive coach, or the other way around. A defensive mastermind who can go out and hire a young up and coming offensive guy that will liven things up and keep defenses guessing. I think a young, high energy coach that would bring some life to the sidelines and to the fan base would help as well. Lucky77777s wrote:
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I've been thinking about this and my take is that we look for a top Division 2A coach with a low but higher pay then what he is getting now if things don't work Iowa has the option to pay another coach less then what their paying now for a Division 1 coach if we where to make an offer to the mark stoops and Bobby Diaco now they will probably want something close to what we are paying for a coach that hasn't won a national championship take a look at or Oregon Chip Kelly came from a D2A New Hampshire
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I would hate this approach. At the end of the day, I want an Iowa guy running the program if possible. I guess if none of the top Iowa guys want the job, or there isn't anyone qualified enough, then we look outside the program. 
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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:28 AM
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So with that my previous post, here would be my top choices as to who to go after and who I think would at least entertain the idea. Put the ball in their court to either say they are not interested or turn us down:
1. James Frankllin, HC at Vanderbilt
2. Gus Malzahn, HC at Arkansas State
3. Todd Monken, OC at Okalahoma State (Look at the Oklahoma State coaching tree and success of their offensive coordinators; Dana Holgerson WVU, Larry Fedora UNC, Les Miles LSU)
4. Chad Morris, OC at Clemson
5. Kirby Smart, DC at Alabama
6. Mark Stoops, DC at Florida State
7. Kliff Kinsburgy, OC at Texas A&M
8. Brent Venables, DC at Clemson
9. Blake Anderson, OC at North Carolina (Kind of an unknown. Would probably be a bargain for what we could get him for likely. I know his abilities from his time at Southern Miss under Larry Fedora. Very innovative and high energy offense. Most Southern Miss fans are wishing they kept him on as Head Coach. He was the 2nd choice).
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Posted: 11/15/2012 11:38 AM
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--------------------------------------------- --- MississippiHawkeye wrote: I am curious as to what everyone means by an "Iowa Guy". Someone that was groomed under Ferentz? Someone who simply played at Iowa? If so, you will likely get the same old boring play calling and predictable offense along with someone who has very little piss and vengar about their personality. If we are talkiong about someone from way before Ferentz, I can see that, but I wouldn't hold my breath about Diaco or Beilema, so who does that leave. I think Iowa needs to think outside the box a little with our next hire and get someone who is very good at what they teach and what they do in terms of offense or defense. Either a true offensive minded coach who can then go out and hire a good defensive coach, or the other way around. A defensive mastermind who can go out and hire a young up and coming offensive guy that will liven things up and keep defenses guessing. I think a young, high energy coach that would bring some life to the sidelines and to the fan base would help as well. Lucky77777s wrote:
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I've been thinking about this and my take is that we look for a top Division 2A coach with a low but higher pay then what he is getting now if things don't work Iowa has the option to pay another coach less then what their paying now for a Division 1 coach if we where to make an offer to the mark stoops and Bobby Diaco now they will probably want something close to what we are paying for a coach that hasn't won a national championship take a look at or Oregon Chip Kelly came from a D2A New Hampshire
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I would hate this approach. At the end of the day, I want an Iowa guy running the program if possible. I guess if none of the top Iowa guys want the job, or there isn't anyone qualified enough, then we look outside the program. --------------------------------------------- I get why people say let's get back to Earth, but you at least pick up the phone and try, especially when it involves someone with a connection to Iowa City, either as a past player or coach. Here are a few off the top of my head: 1. Bob Stoops - he can bring both of his brothers and He has had several other former Hawkeyes coaching under him that might be interested as well, such as Chuck Long. This is by far, best case scenario. 2. Brett Bielema - Former player and coach who has done well at Wiscy. Again, he has had multiple Iowa guys under him. 3. Joe Philbin - Not sure how Miami is working out, but the college game offers a lot more job security than the NFL, and we have proven we are willing to pay top $. 4. Dan McCarney - Head coach at multiple schools and proven he can win despite those schools short comings. I'm sure you will all laugh it off, but I always enjoyed watching his passion/fire for the game. 5. Bobby Diaco - up and coming coach who has ND playing its best Defense in decades. |
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Posted: 11/15/2012 11:58 AM
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Lol. Youngest team ever under Ferentz. This year's team has been plagued with injuries. There's only one game I can think of where the score wasn't close. What do you guys expect? Look at the scores of the games under Ferentz. 2003 & 2009 could have looked a lot like this season. You're not getting a new coach. Live with it.
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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:55 PM
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Palirider13 wrote: Lol. Youngest team ever under Ferentz. This year's team has been plagued with injuries. There's only one game I can think of where the score wasn't close. What do you guys expect? Look at the scores of the games under Ferentz. 2003 & 2009 could have looked a lot like this season. You're not getting a new coach. Live with it. Its not the results of this season, that has Iowa fans in a tizzy. Its the fact that after 13 seasons, KF has allowed it to get to this point. Most people defending KF want to point to the problems and not the cause of the problems. A head coach in his 13th season, having won a BCS Bowl 2 seasons ago, shouldn't where we are. KF either didnt see it coming, or he saw it coming and failed to fix it before it got here. Either way, its on his shoulders and he has earned every bit of criticism he gets. |
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Posted: 11/15/2012 2:57 PM
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Mark Stoops? Seriously?
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The one that made me laugh was Bret Bielema.... I thought you guys couldn't stand him?
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Posted: 11/15/2012 2:59 PM
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duff8800 wrote:
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Mark Stoops? Seriously?
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The one that made me laugh was Bret Bielema.... I thought you guys could stand him? Yeah. We cant. But I would glady, gladly, gladly trade you Athletic Directors. |
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Posted: 11/15/2012 3:36 PM
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RJSimmons wrote:
duff8800 wrote:
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Mark Stoops? Seriously?
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The one that made me laugh was Bret Bielema.... I thought you guys could stand him? Yeah. We cant. But I would glady, gladly, gladly trade you Athletic Directors. Alvarez would be awesome!
WILL THE REAL IOWA QB... PLEASE STAND UP...PLEASE STAND UP!!
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Posted: 11/15/2012 4:36 PM
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xXFrostyHawk52Xx wrote:
dukeslater wrote: Let's come back to earth. Neither Bowlsby or Barta have hired or will hire anyone without D1 Head coaching experience.
Ferentz coached at Maine, which was and still is an FCS program. I personally wouldn't have a problem with an experienced FCS coach. http://ncaafootball.com/ |
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Posted: 11/15/2012 4:51 PM
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Palirider13 wrote: Lol. Youngest team ever under Ferentz. This year's team has been plagued with injuries. There's only one game I can think of where the score wasn't close. What do you guys expect? Look at the scores of the games under Ferentz. 2003 & 2009 could have looked a lot like this season. You're not getting a new coach. Live with it. And as everyone knows, only those players at Iowa ever get injured  What I don't like about this season, and what I think is the main cause of the wrath towards this coaching staff, is that this team is not getting any better... in fact, they are getting worse. What happened to the Iowa teams that nobody wanted to play in November? What happened to the Iowa teams that got better as the season went along? What happened to next man in? Many people here seem to think that this team will be better next year because of youth and injuries, which of course every other team has to deal with. But the young guys don't appear to be getting any better against some of the poorest competition they are likely to face in their entire careers. I might also hold out some hope if some of the upperclassmen actually appeared to improve. Have guys like JVB, Hyde, Morris, K. Davis improved much, if at all, from last year? |
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Posted: 11/15/2012 6:12 PM
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Mark Stoops? Seriously?
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The one that made me laugh was Bret Bielema.... I thought you guys couldn't stand him? Yeah, but he does have the tattoo. So you have to at least throw him in the mix. "As a staff, we're most interested in what a player has from the neck up. We want to know about his family. Did he have a brother -was he successful; did he have a sister - was she successful?" Chris Doyle
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Posted: 11/16/2012 12:44 PM
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I had a post about this earlier in the season but I'll post again,
Kirby Smart: Alabama DC
James Coley: Florida State OC
Bob or Mark Stoops: OU HC and FSU DC
Brent Pease: Florida OC
I know this a long shot, but if they get paid $3.875 million a year like Kirk does, then I think any one of those assistants would be dumb to not take a second look at Iowa.
THE WORD IS FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FOR IOWA!
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