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Posted: 11/10/2012 2:29 PM
This season.
We have now lost to a bad Central Michigan team. A bad Indiana team. A bad Purdue team. A mediocre Iowa State team and didn't exactly look good against a bad Gopher team and a bad UNI team.
What the hell can Ferentz use for an excuse this time. If you have a bad team on the field it is YOUR fault.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 2:30 PM
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Don't forget, squeeked by a Northern Illinois team.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 2:31 PM
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Lets face it,we have a bad offense.  |
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Posted: 11/10/2012 2:32 PM
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hawkytalk wrote: Lets face it,we have a bad offense. Yes. That is an understatment. The D is bad also however.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 2:34 PM
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irishchihawk wrote: Don't forget, squeeked by a Northern Illinois team. I know but at least NIU is having a good season.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 2:43 PM
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Sound off will be good. The apologists are running out of excuses.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 3:02 PM
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tingy wrote: Sound off will be good. The apologists are running out of excuses. Logically, you would think that. At this point if people are still backing Ferentz though...why stop now?
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Posted: 11/10/2012 3:05 PM
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AEGHawkeye wrote:
tingy wrote: Sound off will be good. The apologists are running out of excuses. Logically, you would think that. At this point if people are still backing Ferentz though...why stop now? Because they cant understand that Norm Parker was the reason Iowa football has had any success, over the past 13 seasons. Norm's gone. So is the best part of KF's tenure. |
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Posted: 11/10/2012 3:07 PM
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RJSimmons wrote:
AEGHawkeye wrote:
tingy wrote: Sound off will be good. The apologists are running out of excuses. Logically, you would think that. At this point if people are still backing Ferentz though...why stop now? Because they cant understand that Norm Parker was the reason Iowa football has had any success, over the past 13 seasons. Norm's gone. So is the best part of KF's tenure. Whole lot of truth to that statement. |
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Posted: 11/10/2012 3:14 PM
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JoeBro66 wrote:
RJSimmons wrote:
AEGHawkeye wrote:
tingy wrote: Sound off will be good. The apologists are running out of excuses. Logically, you would think that. At this point if people are still backing Ferentz though...why stop now? Because they cant understand that Norm Parker was the reason Iowa football has had any success, over the past 13 seasons. Norm's gone. So is the best part of KF's tenure. Whole lot of truth to that statement. Leave it to RJ to sum it up correctly. I think we all knew it but we (including myself) were optimistic that it wasn't the truth. Obviously, we were wrong.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 6:48 PM
Re: This season.
--------------------------------------------- --- tingy wrote: irishchihawk wrote: Don't forget, squeeked by a Northern Illinois team. I know but at least NIU is having a good season. --------------------------------------------- But they are not FBS. |
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Posted: 11/10/2012 6:57 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- irishchihawk wrote: --------------------------------------------- --- tingy wrote: irishchihawk wrote: Don't forget, squeeked by a Northern Illinois team. I know but at least NIU is having a good season. --------------------------------------------- But they are not FBS. --------------------------------------------- Not that it matters, but yes they are. NIUE is but UNI isn't. |
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Posted: 11/10/2012 6:58 PM
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hawkytalk wrote: Lets face it,we have a bad offense. the offense is horrific and our defense is getting gashed every week now. i wonder how many opponents had their best offensive showing of the year against iowa's d. |
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Posted: 11/11/2012 1:35 AM
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hawkinarkansas wrote:
hawkytalk wrote: Lets face it,we have a bad offense. the offense is horrific and our defense is getting gashed every week now. i wonder how many opponents had their best offensive showing of the year against iowa's d. To answer your question, the answer is zero opponents have had their best offensive showing against Iowa this year, although Penn St was very close. Team-Points against Iowa-Season High Northern Illinois-17-63 Iowa State-9-37 Northern Iowa 16-50 Central Michigan 32-38 Minnesota-13-44 Michigan St-16-41 Penn St-38-39 Northwestern-28-44 Indiana-24-49 Purdue-27-54 |
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Posted: 11/11/2012 2:11 AM
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WednesdayQB wrote:
hawkinarkansas wrote:
hawkytalk wrote: Lets face it,we have a bad offense. the offense is horrific and our defense is getting gashed every week now. i wonder how many opponents had their best offensive showing of the year against iowa's d. To answer your question, the answer is zero opponents have had their best offensive showing against Iowa this year, although Penn St was very close. Team-Points against Iowa-Season High - Iowa Defense yards allowed/ season high yardage gained for opponent Northern Illinois-17-63 201 yards allowed/ 622 yards gained Iowa State-9-37 342 yards allowed/ 557 yards gained Northern Iowa 16-50 339 yards allowed/ 471 yards gained Central Michigan 32-38 394 yards allowed/506 yards gained Minnesota-13-44 299 yards allowed/478 yards gained Michigan St-16-41 328 yards allowed/495 yards gained Penn St-38-39 504 yards allowed/506 yards gained Northwestern-28-44 433 yards allowed/704 yards gained Indiana-24-49 473 yards allowed/596 yards gained Purdue-27-54 490 yards allowed/576 yards gained
Jets & Hawkeyes. I must enjoy torturing myself. >.<
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Posted: 11/11/2012 6:30 AM
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I think we are over-complicating the problem with this team. In my opinion the O-line has done well considering the circumstances. The defense, though far from it's heydays under Norm, has usually done enough to keep us in all games (PSU the exception). This is a pretty decent unit considering it's youth.
The crux of the problem is at QB. JVB is among the worst in FBS. He cannot move the ball through the air. If we had a QB who was even in the top 50 nationally we'd be having a much different season right now. Granted the receivers aren't stepping up, but this could well be down to a general confidence issue.
So for me the ($3.4m dollar) question is; why is our QB so bad? Why is there then, no one better to take his place. Does this program do a sufficient job of coaching up QBs?
The answer to that last question I believe is - no. How many great QBs have come out of the Ferentz system? I think we could argue that Stanzi was very much a self-made man. Tate (while running for his life most of his senior year) never exceeded the potential of his soph. year. Banks was what he was when he came in.
Rudduck is a great high school QB. Is it the case that after nearly 2 years in the program that he is still just a great high school QB? If so then the discussion on coaching changes takes on far more urgency. Is the reason we have done so poorly on offense in the KF era by and large down to the inability to develop talent at QB? At this point I would argue, yes.
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Posted: 11/11/2012 7:32 AM
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EURO...you are right. Rudock set all kinds of passing records at one of the most storied HS football programs in the nation and he is not good enough to play even a single down? It would be different if JVB had a Peyton Manning season. I am thoroughly confused about this.
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I think we are over-complicating the problem with this team. In my opinion the O-line has done well considering the circumstances. The defense, though far from it's heydays under Norm, has usually done enough to keep us in all games (PSU the exception). This is a pretty decent unit considering it's youth.
The crux of the problem is at QB. JVB is among the worst in FBS. He cannot move the ball through the air. If we had a QB who was even in the top 50 nationally we'd be having a much different season right now. Granted the receivers aren't stepping up, but this could well be down to a general confidence issue.
So for me the ($3.4m dollar) question is; why is our QB so bad? Why is there then, no one better to take his place. Does this program do a sufficient job of coaching up QBs?
The answer to that last question I believe is - no. How many great QBs have come out of the Ferentz system? I think we could argue that Stanzi was very much a self-made man. Tate (while running for his life most of his senior year) never exceeded the potential of his soph. year. Banks was what he was when he came in.
Rudduck is a great high school QB. Is it the case that after nearly 2 years in the program that he is still just a great high school QB? If so then the discussion on coaching changes takes on far more urgency. Is the reason we have done so poorly on offense in the KF era by and large down to the inability to develop talent at QB? At this point I would argue, yes.
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Let's see what Rudock can do!
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Posted: 11/11/2012 9:02 AM
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This season is worse than even I thought it would be. Even I expected to beat CMU and either PUR/IND.
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Posted: 11/11/2012 9:20 AM
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I credit the Defense for winning the few games we have won this year. But you can see by the statistics that they Offense has made ZERO progress, and thus the D has been worn down throughout the year.
I believe this is why OTT took off the Redshirt... and this is obviously why we are using some many D-linemen recently too... They are just gassed...
We need to recruit heavily for playmakers.
Maybe KF can donate some of his salary to do that? hehehee... ok, just figured I would see how it felt to pick on KF and his paycheck.
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Posted: 11/11/2012 9:29 AM
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RJSimmons wrote: This season is worse than even I thought it would be. Even I expected to beat CMU and either PUR/IND. And the worst team and season since 1999!!! How is that acceptable from a coach with a 14 yr tenure making that kind of money? This is the third year in a row of sub par teams and something needs to change. I am hoping he will resign as that will be our only saving grace! He sure doesnt need the money! |
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Posted: 11/11/2012 11:20 AM
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floridahawk wrote: EURO...you are right. Rudock set all kinds of passing records at one of the most storied HS football programs in the nation and he is not good enough to play even a single down? It would be different if JVB had a Peyton Manning season. I am thoroughly confused about this.
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I think we are over-complicating the problem with this team. In my opinion the O-line has done well considering the circumstances. The defense, though far from it's heydays under Norm, has usually done enough to keep us in all games (PSU the exception). This is a pretty decent unit considering it's youth.
The crux of the problem is at QB. JVB is among the worst in FBS. He cannot move the ball through the air. If we had a QB who was even in the top 50 nationally we'd be having a much different season right now. Granted the receivers aren't stepping up, but this could well be down to a general confidence issue.
So for me the ($3.4m dollar) question is; why is our QB so bad? Why is there then, no one better to take his place. Does this program do a sufficient job of coaching up QBs?
The answer to that last question I believe is - no. How many great QBs have come out of the Ferentz system? I think we could argue that Stanzi was very much a self-made man. Tate (while running for his life most of his senior year) never exceeded the potential of his soph. year. Banks was what he was when he came in.
Rudduck is a great high school QB. Is it the case that after nearly 2 years in the program that he is still just a great high school QB? If so then the discussion on coaching changes takes on far more urgency. Is the reason we have done so poorly on offense in the KF era by and large down to the inability to develop talent at QB? At this point I would argue, yes.
--------------------------------------------- Why hasn't JVB improved? Or to put it another way, why has he regressed? No matter how those questions are answered, it is the fault of the coaches. If JVB does not have enough talent to handle a Big Ten team, then why is he in there? Again, the fault of the coaches. Why is Ruddock not in there? If he is ready to play, then you have to fault the coaches for not giving him the opportunity. If he is not ready to play, you have to fault the coachs for not developing him over the past two seasons. If Ruddock is not ready to play, why is there not another back up QB ready to play? Again, fault of the coaches. |
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Posted: 11/11/2012 11:58 AM
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A big loss was Joe to Green Bay!
will there be 3 trips in a row 4 the school up 151?
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Posted: 11/11/2012 2:29 PM
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5centcorner wrote: A big loss was Joe to Green Bay!
will there be 3 trips in a row 4 the school up 151? NO |
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Posted: 11/11/2012 6:24 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- RJSimmons wrote: 5centcorner wrote: A big loss was Joe to Green Bay!
will there be 3 trips in a row 4 the school up 151? NO --------------------------------------------- I'd rather see wisky go to then nebby! |
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Posted: 11/11/2012 8:09 PM
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5centcorner wrote: A big loss was Joe to Green Bay!
will there be 3 trips in a row 4 the school up 151? NO
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I'd rather see wisky go to then nebby! Its not personal preference. Just my opinion of who I think has the better team. Injuries are mounting for WIS. |
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Posted: 11/11/2012 10:55 PM
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Not sure if we are dedicated Hawk fans or need more hobbies...either way, the yards really backed up the points. We still have a top 30 defense and have created turnovers. Of course, when those turnovers almost never lead to touchdowns (unless it is the defense scoring them).... Revan89 wrote:
WednesdayQB wrote:
hawkinarkansas wrote:
hawkytalk wrote: Lets face it,we have a bad offense. the offense is horrific and our defense is getting gashed every week now. i wonder how many opponents had their best offensive showing of the year against iowa's d. To answer your question, the answer is zero opponents have had their best offensive showing against Iowa this year, although Penn St was very close. Team-Points against Iowa-Season High - Iowa Defense yards allowed/ season high yardage gained for opponent Northern Illinois-17-63 201 yards allowed/ 622 yards gained Iowa State-9-37 342 yards allowed/ 557 yards gained Northern Iowa 16-50 339 yards allowed/ 471 yards gained Central Michigan 32-38 394 yards allowed/506 yards gained Minnesota-13-44 299 yards allowed/478 yards gained Michigan St-16-41 328 yards allowed/495 yards gained Penn St-38-39 504 yards allowed/506 yards gained Northwestern-28-44 433 yards allowed/704 yards gained Indiana-24-49 473 yards allowed/596 yards gained Purdue-27-54 490 yards allowed/576 yards gained |
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Posted: 11/12/2012 12:24 AM
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EUROhawk wrote: I think we are over-complicating the problem with this team. In my opinion the O-line has done well considering the circumstances. The defense, though far from it's heydays under Norm, has usually done enough to keep us in all games (PSU the exception). This is a pretty decent unit considering it's youth.
The crux of the problem is at QB. JVB is among the worst in FBS. He cannot move the ball through the air. If we had a QB who was even in the top 50 nationally we'd be having a much different season right now. Granted the receivers aren't stepping up, but this could well be down to a general confidence issue.
So for me the ($3.4m dollar) question is; why is our QB so bad? Why is there then, no one better to take his place. Does this program do a sufficient job of coaching up QBs?
The answer to that last question I believe is - no. How many great QBs have come out of the Ferentz system? I think we could argue that Stanzi was very much a self-made man. Tate (while running for his life most of his senior year) never exceeded the potential of his soph. year. Banks was what he was when he came in.
Rudduck is a great high school QB. Is it the case that after nearly 2 years in the program that he is still just a great high school QB? If so then the discussion on coaching changes takes on far more urgency. Is the reason we have done so poorly on offense in the KF era by and large down to the inability to develop talent at QB? At this point I would argue, yes. Hayden Fry was a college QB. That helped Iowa develop QBs. Bill Snyder was a great offensive coordinator, and that helped as well. We do need help developing QBs. Chuck Long for QBs coach?  Sousaphone bandstrut. |
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