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Men's Swimming in 1st place after first full day at ACCs

Posted: 2/23/2012 8:40 PM

Men's Swimming in 1st place after first full day at ACCs 


Looks like UVA doesn't have solid sprinters which is leaves an opening for UNC to win. 2 more days to go. Still tight w/ a 20 pt lead heading into Friday.
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Posted: 2/24/2012 10:19 PM

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Down 12 now. Is there any way we can win tomorrow?
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Posted: 2/25/2012 1:49 PM

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so many points are still on the table
the last relay usually tells doesnt it
2nd isnt so bad
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Posted: 2/25/2012 5:01 PM

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Down 12 now. Is there any way we can win tomorrow?

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Need a lot of crazy things to happen. Similar to Friday, UVA needs a lot of DQs again.

Actually fighting for 2nd now. VT has come on strong. They will get a lot of diving points today. Based on seeds from this morning, they have 2nd place by about 20 points
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Posted: 2/26/2012 9:08 AM

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men finish 3rd, we're sitting in 4th at one point. Not a great finish.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:15 AM

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Yeah, it really seems like some of these "homerun" hires haven't lived up to expectations. With the recruiting DeSelm has been doing, I expected us to be dominant in the conference by now.

Breschi is the same. How many great recruiting classes does it take for results to be seen?

I hope BC knocks it out of the park with the T&F hire. That program has been mediocre for a long time.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:32 AM

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Yeah, this senior class did not live up to expectations. DeSelm has recruited about on par with UVA, yet the results at ACCs haven't been close. Next year should say a lot for where this program will be in the future. Next year will be UVA's weakest year, I don't expect a championship, so if we come in 2nd or 3rd again, I don't think Desel will ever establish a dominate program.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:04 AM

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IMHO, Rich DeSelm is a home-run hire. He has done a fantastic job of recruiting and then coaching the athletes on his squads. There was a LOT of distance between UVA Mens and Womens swimming when DeSelm became HC at UNC. A large part of successful swimming programs is building depth at all events so that you can win meets by accumulating points at finishes below first place.
UVA has done this for the past decade, just as Frank Comfort did at UNC during the prime years of his tenure.
VPI is the surprise of the tournament, to me. I do not know if UNC has a different coach for divers now, but that was an event of strength for UNC which did not supply us with as many points as we normally expect.
UNC is EXTREMELY fortunate to have Rich DeSelm as HC of our swimming programs.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 2:42 PM

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I do not know if UNC has a different coach for divers now, but that was an event of strength for UNC which did not supply us with as many points as we normally expect.

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Actually, the divers scored 38 MORE points this year compared to last year (74 total) which was third best in the conference. Not bad for a school without a 10 meter platform.

I'm not saying Deselm is a bad coach, but he's had plenty of time to build his team. This is his 5th year as head coach and he's had several great classes (as good or better than UVA every year), men and women, next year being his best women's class ever. I just wouldn't call him a homerun hire. Doesn't mean he's a bad coach, which he is certainly not. It's just that when I hear homerun hire, I think of championships.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 3:18 PM

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There was a LOT of distance between UVA Mens and Womens swimming when DeSelm became HC at UNC.
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When Deselm first started as head coach in waiting, the women's team actually won the ACC Championship and UVA finished 3rd, it took ONE class for the UVA women to turn their program around (they had not won a championship in several years)

That same year UVA's men's team lost at the ACC championship for the first time in a decade and the UNC men's team beat UVA in a dual in Deselms first year. It was the first win over UVA in 10 years. So there really wasn't a LOT of distance between the two programs.

The bottom line is, our men have failed to hit their taper as well as UVA's at conference championships.
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