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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:29 PM
Gio runs 4.50
Think that's a good number for him considering all the other valuables he brings to the table.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:37 PM
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It's faster than anything 4.51 and greater.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:38 PM
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Obvious.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:40 PM
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Gio's vision and patience are more valuable than his 4.5 40 speed.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:53 PM
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Posted: 2/24/2013 3:36 PM
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Not that great.
We can rationalize an drum up intangibles all we want. It's all a matter of what GMs think we they see it.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:27 PM
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All of the great ones with a few exceptions were in the 4.5 or higher time line. Once in the NFL it is about balance power and vision for the most part.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:44 PM
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Considering the way prospects are evaluated, can't see him getting into the 1st round with a 4.5 being 5'8.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:51 PM
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I'd rather see him go in the 2nd to a team that knows how to use him and is not horrid.
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Considering the way prospects are evaluated, can't see him getting into the 1st round with a 4.5 being 5'8.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:51 PM
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Every relatively slow player isn't Smith and Rice. They had something special, it's sort of hard to say what it was.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:04 PM
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May, did you watch the last two seasons? How about Nicks? I'm not saying Gio is going to be as good as Smith or Rice but heart and determination can make up for a lack of blazing speed sometimes. Also the fastest player in the draft sometimes ends up being an unknown.
Last edited 2/24/2013 5:05 PM by heelfareal
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:17 PM
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When did NFL RB's start running in straight lines for 40 yards at a time? This is one measure of a player's speed, but the ability to change direction and speed on a dime is much more important than top speed.
I watched every bit of every minute of the combine so far. Moyock(?) konws of what he speaks and he kept saying "fast guys run fast" and that means nothing else other than they are fast. He puts a premium on backs with vision, heart, want to and the ability to cut quickly. I believe no other back in this draft has any greater level of these traits than Gio.
Gio will be a top 5 RB in the league within three years, absent injury. Bank on it!
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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:07 PM
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Watch the film.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:36 PM
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40 time doesn't address his burst cutting off blocks or hitting the hole once it opens up, or in space when he catches the ball, he plants and goes.. Good 40 no sweat
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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:40 PM
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these times are pointless considering they run in shorts and a tank top .
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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:52 PM
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Gio does not have BLAZING straight line speed. He does have quickness, great vision, balance, and an uncanny gift for using his blockers.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:58 PM
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Ask the wufflies how hard he is to catch in an open field!
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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:04 PM
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More important is the 10 yard burst, or the ability to accelerate through the gaps. You rarely run 40 yards full speed, and if you can't make someone miss you aren't going to run a 4.3 over the top of a 240lb linebacker.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 8:20 PM
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According to the dspnU ticker, a 4.50 would be the 5th highest RB. Seems to be pretty good.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 2:20 AM
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4.5 is not slow!
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Posted: 2/25/2013 5:34 AM
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Study your times, alll I know is somebody is going to get an unbelievable running back.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 7:41 AM
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Alfred Morris ran a 4.67, 40 and ran for 1,600+ yards last season. Gio's speed is fine. It may affect his draft status as an elite first day pick, but it will not effect his production.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 8:31 AM
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I watched a little bit of the combine show. Gio's 4.5 actually put him near the top among RB's. NFL times aren't like Billy Bob's Wind-Aided Steroid-Driven Broken-Stopwatch High School Combines where everybody runs a 4.3. Gio will be fine. He's not a burner, but he's a versatile, every-down kind of back.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 8:52 AM
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Exactly! 4.50 is probably faster than most GMs thought he would be. Gio will be just fine.
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Gio's 4.5 actually put him near the top among RB's. NFL times aren't like Billy Bob's Wind-Aided Steroid-Driven Broken-Stopwatch High School Combines where everybody runs a 4.3. Gio will be fine. He's not a burner, but he's a versatile, every-down kind of back.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:46 AM
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Does speed matter when you are going to the bank?
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:47 AM
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Seriously, I've heard JC, D2 and D3 coaches brag that they had 10 guys on their team who could run a 4.3. No joke! It depends on who's holding the stopwatch, etc. When million$ are involved, expect accuracy. Gio will be fine!
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Posted: 2/25/2013 12:00 PM
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"Seriously, I've heard JC, D2 and D3 coaches brag that they had 10 guys on their team who could run a 4.3."
Ever been to a minor league baseball game. Even in single A, there are plenty of guys who can hit 90+ on their fastball. However, their pitches don't move. They are on a rope. In the majors, there are some pitchers who can barely hit 90 with their fastball. However, their pitches break wickedly and their ball placement is outstanding.
I imagine football is similar. There is more to a WR, RB, CB, etc than speed.
The link to the article on Smith and Rice is indicative.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 12:02 PM
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4.50 40 time doesn't mean anything when your lateral agility is as good as Gio's is. He'll be fine in the league.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 12:34 PM
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So true but these people act like 4.5 is slow or something. Kid from auburn who ran 4.21 only weighs 168lbs. He's nobody's every down back. And I guarantee non of the faster backs have Gio's vision, balance, strength, burst or jump cut ability plus his pass catching.
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4.50 40 time doesn't mean anything when your lateral agility is as good as Gio's is. He'll be fine in the league.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 12:54 PM
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I think that is the time he needed to hit.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 3:55 PM
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If I remember correctly Hakeem ran a 4.47 at a position where straight line speed is far more significant. It worked out okay for him I think.
Edit: Nicks ran a 4.49
Last edited 2/25/2013 3:57 PM by jratch66
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Posted: 2/25/2013 4:06 PM
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Your right and with his size and hands, he's a monster. Now if he can just stay healthy.
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If I remember correctly Hakeem ran a 4.47 at a position where straight line speed is far more significant. It worked out okay for him I think.
Edit: Nicks ran a 4.49
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Posted: 2/25/2013 4:39 PM
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I had no clue what his time in the 40 would be but if I had guessed it would have been around 4.45 or 4.5. I don't think anyone who knew of Gio's ability was surprised one way or the other by his time. Breakaway speed wasn't his special talent. Some GM is about to get a gem of a RB and they hope other GM are put off by a 4.5 time.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 4:55 PM
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Alfred Morris and Gio Bernard are completely different players. Morris is a power back. The 40 was somewhat important for Gio since he measured 2 inches shorter than what he was listed at here(5'8). I agree with the majority that his breakaway speed isn't what made him special, but teams nowadays love the 40 yard dash.
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Alfred Morris ran a 4.67, 40 and ran for 1,600+ yards last season. Gio's speed is fine. It may affect his draft status as an elite first day pick, but it will not effect his production.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 5:01 PM
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If Gio were to end up with a faster 40 he could've made a push for the late first round, where teams like New England, Green Bay, Denver and Atlanta are picking. As of now it's quite possible that he could end up on the Jets, Lions, or Cardinals. Although to be fair I'd be surprised if the Bengals(team on the rise) passed on him at #37.
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I'd rather see him go in the 2nd to a team that knows how to use him and is not horrid.
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Considering the way prospects are evaluated, can't see him getting into the 1st round with a 4.5 being 5'8.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 7:31 PM
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A 4.4 40 requires an average speed of 18.2 mph. Burst is higher of course.
A 4.53 is somewhere around 18.5 mph average. That is a .13 second difference....Yep. He slow. I mean...210lbs running at 18 mph is not elite material...
So, Einsteins....what we are talking about here is trivial and bottom line doesn't mean crap on the football field.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 8:33 PM
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If anything holds Gio back it will be durability, not speed.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:47 PM
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www.nationalfootballpost.com/N...at-Combine.html5. Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina: The best of the running backs today, one scout told us that Bernard “looked like Ray Rice athletically” in the workout. Displaying quick feet and a rare explosive burst changing directions he showed he should be a very elusive back in the NFL. Another scout told me that Bernard looked like “the real deal” and definitely warrants being picked in the first round when you combine his workout with his outstanding production at North Carolina.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:56 PM
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His speed and quickness are excellent, but his low center of gravity makes him truly elite.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:50 AM
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High second round to the lions... book it.
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