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Florida State's poor Champ-Game attendance cost more than pride.
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Posted: 2/16/2013 3:17 PM
Florida State's poor Champ-Game attendance cost more than pride.
Last edited 2/16/2013 3:34 PM by TarHeelTim
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Posted: 2/16/2013 3:18 PM
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According to the school's income statement from the game, obtained by Warchant.com via public records request, Florida State lost more than $478,000 from its participation in the ACC championship in Charlotte, N.C., on Dec. 1.
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Posted: 2/16/2013 3:19 PM
RE: Florida State's poor bowl attendance cost more than pride.
This is unfortunate for FSU that they had to play the worst participant ever in the ACCCG.
However, this happens occasionally. Florida had to eat about 1 mil because of poor Sugar Bowl sales this year.
Last edited 2/16/2013 6:00 PM by yallreadyforthis
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Posted: 2/16/2013 4:59 PM
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The economy of these games are all out if whack. Individuals on these bowl committees are making 6 figures and sticking it to schools. Time to tear up these bogus contracts with ticket and hotel room guarantees.
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Posted: 2/16/2013 5:24 PM
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You hit the nail on the head with bowl official salaries. Have you seen some of the bogus expenses these same people turn in to be paid for?
Time for the big schools to break away from the NCAA and form their own league with their own playoff format and keeping all monies earned. Can no longer bankroll all of the small schools with our successes. Kind of like welfare, no?
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Posted: 2/16/2013 6:27 PM
RE: Florida State's poor Champ-Game attendance cost more than pr
How did we go from ACC champ game discussion to bowl game discussion.
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Posted: 2/16/2013 7:45 PM
RE: Florida State's poor bowl attendance cost more than pride.
The NCAA doesn't make a dime from the bowl games or conference championship games...they only make money from the basketball tournament.
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You hit the nail on the head with bowl official salaries. Have you seen some of the bogus expenses these same people turn in to be paid for?
Time for the big schools to break away from the NCAA and form their own league with their own playoff format and keeping all monies earned. Can no longer bankroll all of the small schools with our successes. Kind of like welfare, no?
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Posted: 2/17/2013 8:35 AM
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Gerald is the real victim here.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 9:06 PM
RE: Florida State's poor Champ-Game attendance cost more than pr
Tough break for F$U and the ACC.
The championship game seems to be cursed to have underwhelming match-ups or terrible locations every year.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:30 AM
RE: Florida State's poor Champ-Game attendance cost more than pr
Because both share contractual obligations for the privilege of playing in them. These obligations wind up costing Universities money when the point was to make a profit. The profit has been siphoned off by bowl committees and conference "partners".
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How did we go from ACC champ game discussion to bowl game discussion.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 3:51 PM
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One school of thought is to play the game at the home stadium of the participant with the better league record or BCS ranking (take your pick), but that didn't guarantee a sellout for the Pac-12 this year (Stanford Stadium had many empty seats for their CCG).
If we keep it at a neutral site, if FSU and Miami qualify, then Tampa would be a great site. If UNC and Clemson qualify, then Charlotte would be a great site. But of course there is always going to be a good chance that the participants in the game will come from places far away from the pre-designated site in a league as geographically expansive as ours. I think Atlanta would be a great site but of course that one is taken already.
Really, in the end, we just need to keep growing the ACC football brand. Over time it will develop, we had a great bowl season including the new teams coming in. Obviously this year a 6-6 qualifier didn't help.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:31 PM
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Gerald is the real victim here.
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This never gets old!!
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:58 AM
RE: Florida State's poor Champ-Game attendance cost more than pr
Probably beating a dead horse here, but a dividing the divisions up geographically would help. Then a permanant site like Charlotte would be ideal for many but not all. Or, if we went geographic divisions route, let each division take turns "hosting" the CCG. Pick a site or sites that is conventient for the host division that year.
But, seeing that the conference now goes from the Canadian border to 90 miles from Cuba that wouldn't solve everything.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:03 AM
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Yet Stanford had a huge turnout for the Rose Bowl. Get to that point and some folks have to decide whether to go to the title game or wait and use that toward a big bowl game...
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One school of thought is to play the game at the home stadium of the participant with the better league record or BCS ranking (take your pick), but that didn't guarantee a sellout for the Pac-12 this year (Stanford Stadium had many empty seats for their CCG).
If we keep it at a neutral site, if FSU and Miami qualify, then Tampa would be a great site. If UNC and Clemson qualify, then Charlotte would be a great site. But of course there is always going to be a good chance that the participants in the game will come from places far away from the pre-designated site in a league as geographically expansive as ours. I think Atlanta would be a great site but of course that one is taken already.
Really, in the end, we just need to keep growing the ACC football brand. Over time it will develop, we had a great bowl season including the new teams coming in. Obviously this year a 6-6 qualifier didn't help.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:31 AM
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the west coast was soaked with heavy rains the nite of the stanford vs UCLA game,many people just stayed home and watched it on tv
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Posted: 2/20/2013 4:04 PM
RE: Florida State's poor bowl attendance cost more than pride.
But, but,but. but FSU is such a huge football school with the best fans who will travel anywhere for the noles. Would they travel as poorly to Kansas City or Dallas for a Big 12 Championship game. Oh, I forgot, they're the savior conference.
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--- yallreadyforthis wrote:
This is unfortunate for FSU that they had to play the worst participant ever in the ACCCG.
However, this happens occasionally. Florida had to eat about 1 mil because of poor Sugar Bowl sales this year.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 4:10 PM
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i see we have failed to admit the real problem here
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Posted: 2/20/2013 5:40 PM
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You get some notice for a bowl game, at least a month's worth, people can make plans, plus they are largely played during a time of year when people have vacation time to spend.
Even the Big Ten has struggled to fill up for its CCG, they've practically given tickets away to get people there so it will look full on TV.
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Yet Stanford had a huge turnout for the Rose Bowl. Get to that point and some folks have to decide whether to go to the title game or wait and use that toward a big bowl game...
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--- NorthStateNole wrote:
One school of thought is to play the game at the home stadium of the participant with the better league record or BCS ranking (take your pick), but that didn't guarantee a sellout for the Pac-12 this year (Stanford Stadium had many empty seats for their CCG).
If we keep it at a neutral site, if FSU and Miami qualify, then Tampa would be a great site. If UNC and Clemson qualify, then Charlotte would be a great site. But of course there is always going to be a good chance that the participants in the game will come from places far away from the pre-designated site in a league as geographically expansive as ours. I think Atlanta would be a great site but of course that one is taken already.
Really, in the end, we just need to keep growing the ACC football brand. Over time it will develop, we had a great bowl season including the new teams coming in. Obviously this year a 6-6 qualifier didn't help.
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Last edited 2/20/2013 5:41 PM by NorthStateNole
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Posted: 2/20/2013 5:42 PM
RE: Florida State's poor bowl attendance cost more than pride.
I would say that the segment of the FSU fanbase that wants anything to do with the Big XII at this point is probably less than 5%.
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But, but,but. but FSU is such a huge football school with the best fans who will travel anywhere for the noles. Would they travel as poorly to Kansas City or Dallas for a Big 12 Championship game. Oh, I forgot, they're the savior conference.
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--- yallreadyforthis wrote:
This is unfortunate for FSU that they had to play the worst participant ever in the ACCCG.
However, this happens occasionally. Florida had to eat about 1 mil because of poor Sugar Bowl sales this year.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 5:47 PM
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No doubt the SECCG is a massive success, the only conference that has the formula down. Certainly though UF often has underwhelming attendance at bowl games.
But even NFL attendance has slipped. Football is too good on your high def TV.
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i see we have failed to admit the real problem here
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Posted: 2/20/2013 6:29 PM
RE: Florida State's poor Champ-Game attendance cost more than pr
Football has become to damn expensive to watch in person!
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--- NorthStateNole wrote:
No doubt the SECCG is a massive success, the only conference that has the formula down. Certainly though UF often has underwhelming attendance at bowl games.
But even NFL attendance has slipped. Football is too good on your high def TV.
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--- 99gator wrote:
i see we have failed to admit the real problem here
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