All of this talk about him sitting out the season has got to be getting into his head. Only a few people on the planet would be able to ignore it and besides, look at all the benefits he could gain by not risking injury. He could drop out of school as a student-athlete and continue classes if he intends to graduate and focus on his classwork. He could begin working out with guys who specialize in preparing the athletes for the combine. He could attend as many parties, go on as many trips, sleep on as many couches and receive as many benefits as he wants without any risk of losing his eligibility or putting the school on probation. He could do all of this and more and still be one of the top picks in next years draft. So tell me, how does a 20 year old with plans on playing in the NFL a little over a year from now decide that the risk is greater than the reward.

A GM had already came out and said it would hurt his stock big time. Its been squashed and for as good as he is he has a lot to improve on.

This was completely created in the media and there is no indication whatsoever that Clowney ever considered sitting at all. It is sad when the media has to make its own news, and it is even sadder that it gets so much attention from the public.

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--- tarheels390 wrote:

A GM had already came out and said it would hurt his stock big time. Its been squashed and for as good as he is he has a lot to improve on.

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Hmmmm, I just watched a discussion on this about 3 hours ago on espn and they said while he may slip a little, he would absolutely still be a top 5 pick, no questions asked.

The risk/reward is a no-brainer. Just ask his teammate Lattimore.

ETA: If Robert Quinn can get picked up in mid-1st round after sitting out a year because of red flags AND have a previous brain surgery, I have no doubt Clowney's status won't be hurt too bad.

What will Jadeveon do? In order of my preference:

*Play and lose to a red-hot Tar Heel team, but have a healthy and successful year.

"Play and lose to a red-hot Tar Heel team, but watch the Gamecocks revert to being the chickens we all know and politely tolerate.

*Sit and watch a red-hot Tar Heel team defeat his chickens.

BTW, as a savvy campus minister told me, WWJD for some people means "We Want Jack Daniel's"

Does he have a big, round, bulbous, bright-colored nose?

I have a hard time buying the GM saying it hurts his stock. He would be more NFL ready because he could get into an NFL training regiment.

Only missing piece would be football action for a year. I am sure he could find ways to stay sharp technique wise (heck he could study NFL film all year as well and study his own playing film to learn what he needs to focus on development wise).

Players are out of game action for a year all the time with injuries and come back.

no, not playing fora year hurts big time, weight lifting and running dont get you into football shape in and of themselves, you really have to play it...I've never seen anyone skip a year and be ready to play.

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I have a hard time buying the GM saying it hurts his stock. He would be more NFL ready because he could get into an NFL training regiment.

Only missing piece would be football action for a year. I am sure he could find ways to stay sharp technique wise (heck he could study NFL film all year as well and study his own playing film to learn what he needs to focus on development wise).

Players are out of game action for a year all the time with injuries and come back.

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You've never heard of anyone that missed a year and did ok?

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--- buckeye4573 wrote:

no, not playing fora year hurts big time, weight lifting and running dont get you into football shape in and of themselves, you really have to play it...I've never seen anyone skip a year and be ready to play.

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--- skinnyb309 wrote:

I have a hard time buying the GM saying it hurts his stock. He would be more NFL ready because he could get into an NFL training regiment.

Only missing piece would be football action for a year. I am sure he could find ways to stay sharp technique wise (heck he could study NFL film all year as well and study his own playing film to learn what he needs to focus on development wise).

Players are out of game action for a year all the time with injuries and come back.

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Why would this get to him? Because someone he doesn't know wrote that he should sit out and now everyone is debating his career without him. Clowney is probably sitting back and laughing at this. Its not like the journalist had an interview with him and this was said.smh

Also yes it would hurt him maybe not his stock but sitting out a year and making a jump to NFL and trying to adjust to that speed would be really difficult for anyone.

This 100%

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--- bartholemew wrote:

This was completely created in the media and there is no indication whatsoever that Clowney ever considered sitting at all. It is sad when the media has to make its own news, and it is even sadder that it gets so much attention from the public.

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Hit the nail on the head.

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--- bartholemew wrote:

This was completely created in the media and there is no indication whatsoever that Clowney ever considered sitting at all. It is sad when the media has to make its own news, and it is even sadder that it gets so much attention from the public.

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I don't really understand this logic. So let's say Clowney sits out this year and prepares while everyone else plays. Draft day comes and goes, Clowney gets picked up along with a few hundred other rookies and camps begin in July. You're saying Clowney will be behind the guys who played the previous season but have been sitting on their butts for the last 7 months waiting for the NFL season to begin? So sitting from January through July doesn't impact the other guys, but Clowney sitting out a season does?

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--- buckeye4573 wrote:

no, not playing fora year hurts big time, weight lifting and running dont get you into football shape in and of themselves, you really have to play it...I've never seen anyone skip a year and be ready to play.

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--- skinnyb309 wrote:

I have a hard time buying the GM saying it hurts his stock. He would be more NFL ready because he could get into an NFL training regiment.

Only missing piece would be football action for a year. I am sure he could find ways to stay sharp technique wise (heck he could study NFL film all year as well and study his own playing film to learn what he needs to focus on development wise).

Players are out of game action for a year all the time with injuries and come back.

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yes, because he's not getting practices, he's not involved with the team, he's missing reps, not just game reps but practice ones. Footrball is much different than baseball or basketball....it's much more of a team game and keeping in shape is good, but when you're not playing it, it will effect you and not in a positive way. The idea of not playing is ludicrous in it's own right, what's next not playing when a contract year is comming up...but again, it's not helpful to not be involved with the team. Football speed is different than track speed.

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--- GhostOfPBG wrote:

I don't really understand this logic. So let's say Clowney sits out this year and prepares while everyone else plays. Draft day comes and goes, Clowney gets picked up along with a few hundred other rookies and camps begin in July. You're saying Clowney will be behind the guys who played the previous season but have been sitting on their butts for the last 7 months waiting for the NFL season to begin? So sitting from January through July doesn't impact the other guys, but Clowney sitting out a season does?

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--- buckeye4573 wrote:

no, not playing fora year hurts big time, weight lifting and running dont get you into football shape in and of themselves, you really have to play it...I've never seen anyone skip a year and be ready to play.

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--- skinnyb309 wrote:

I have a hard time buying the GM saying it hurts his stock. He would be more NFL ready because he could get into an NFL training regiment.

Only missing piece would be football action for a year. I am sure he could find ways to stay sharp technique wise (heck he could study NFL film all year as well and study his own playing film to learn what he needs to focus on development wise).

Players are out of game action for a year all the time with injuries and come back.

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i don't believe clowney has anything to prove or that sitting would harm his draft stock in the least. gm's know what he can do.

rev,you talking about W.C.Fields or Bill Clinton?

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Does he have a big, round, bulbous, bright-colored nose?

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Bill Polian came on Mike and Mike when they raised this. Polian said that it would make GMs "think twice" about him, but it was all about his mental state - passion for the game, etc. It wasn't a convincing argument, and as Golic said afterwards, it might make some teams think twice, but someone in the top 5 is going to take him (unless there are problems unrelated to his decision to sit out)

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--- buckeye4573 wrote:

yes, because he's not getting practices, he's not involved with the team, he's missing reps, not just game reps but practice ones. Footrball is much different than baseball or basketball....it's much more of a team game and keeping in shape is good, but when you're not playing it, it will effect you and not in a positive way. The idea of not playing is ludicrous in it's own right, what's next not playing when a contract year is comming up...but again, it's not helpful to not be involved with the team. Football speed is different than track speed.

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--- GhostOfPBG wrote:

I don't really understand this logic. So let's say Clowney sits out this year and prepares while everyone else plays. Draft day comes and goes, Clowney gets picked up along with a few hundred other rookies and camps begin in July. You're saying Clowney will be behind the guys who played the previous season but have been sitting on their butts for the last 7 months waiting for the NFL season to begin? So sitting from January through July doesn't impact the other guys, but Clowney sitting out a season does?

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--- buckeye4573 wrote:

no, not playing fora year hurts big time, weight lifting and running dont get you into football shape in and of themselves, you really have to play it...I've never seen anyone skip a year and be ready to play.

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--- skinnyb309 wrote:

I have a hard time buying the GM saying it hurts his stock. He would be more NFL ready because he could get into an NFL training regiment.

Only missing piece would be football action for a year. I am sure he could find ways to stay sharp technique wise (heck he could study NFL film all year as well and study his own playing film to learn what he needs to focus on development wise).

Players are out of game action for a year all the time with injuries and come back.

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think twice = (1) man this kid is going to be great on our team ... (2) man this kid is going to be great on our team ...

Trust me... he's not hurting for money and the big contract is the 2nd one anyway. Spurrier can't afford to let that kid sit a year

3 questions.

1 how do you know he and his family are not hurting for money.
2 show me one example under the new CBA that proves the BIG money is the second contract (trick ? there is none)
3 where have you heard of Spurrier even talking about him sitting? Other than Saban no coach in the country enjoys more security than Spurrier. He has the lame ***** in rare territory for success. Why would one year with Bad results affect him in anyway?

As stated earlier a Media made story

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--- AlreadyHome wrote:

Trust me... he's not hurting for money and the big contract is the 2nd one anyway. Spurrier can't afford to let that kid sit a year

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Absolutely! AND this gives us a DECIDED tactical and psychological ADVANTAGE in our season opener next year!

THIS IS crazy talk, you do not sit out a year, PLEASE who started this mess?

this would be the reason he will not sit out, the ole ball coach is not going to lose to the HEELS if he can help it.

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Absolutely! AND this gives us a DECIDED tactical and psychological ADVANTAGE in our season opener next year!

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It's too LITTLE too LATE! It's already IN HIS HEAD. Once it's in a young man's head it's OVER. it CANNOT be undone and will be the UNDOING of the gamecocks.

I can't imagine any athlete of his caliber (being able to ignore his competitive instincts) sitting out. If he worried about injuries, he probably wouldn't play the way he does.

At a press conference today in Columbia he said his name is properly pronounced "Klow-NAY'" with the ac-CENT on the second syl-LAB-bull. Just FYI... He's French.

Blah! Blah!

I Hope there's a mobile qb backing Renner up. The O line, which is not looking good. They will be going up against the best returning d-line(Gamecocks) in the Country. Which spells disaster for Renner. Who i would give a C- in the Running game.

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Blah! Blah!

I Hope there's a mobile qb backing Renner up. The O line, which is not looking good. They will be going up against the best returning d-line(Gamecocks) in the Country. Which spells disaster for Renner. Who i would give a C- in the Running game.

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Please tell me you're not a student or grad from UNC ... or any college for that matter.

He bought an insurance policy.

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--- CowboysHeels1964 wrote:

THIS IS crazy talk, you do not sit out a year, PLEASE who started this mess?

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Tom Sorenson started this with a column a few weeks back. ESPN then got on the bandwagon and started this stupid idea. Clowney has never made mention of this only until he had to refute something started by a newspaper guy with nothing to write.

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At a press conference today in Columbia he said his name is properly pronounced "Klow-NAY'" with the ac-CENT on the second syl-LAB-bull. Just FYI... He's French.

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ZHAH-Day-Vay-AWN Klow-NAY. He was one of those French Huguenots who settled South of the Border.

Renner will **** in the gamecocks sink.

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At a press conference today in Columbia he said his name is properly pronounced "Klow-NAY'" with the ac-CENT on the second syl-LAB-bull. Just FYI... He's French.

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ZHAH-Day-Vay-AWN Klow-NAY. He was one of those French Huguenots who settled South of the Border.

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Reminds me of the janitor from Family Matters

Mr Looney... I mean Loon-Nay... its french.

Completely agree this was just a media fabricated story all the way. BUT it does raise an interesting scenario that should be considered... Lots of good examples of kids missing a year but still doing well in the draft or in their next year of college ball.

Just look at Austin, Little and Quinn. They were banned from playing but spent the year preparing for the draft. Seemed to work out ok for them...

Maybe JC doesn't go #1 overall but so what? I know if my team needed a top DE, I'd take him if given the chance...

If it were me, I tell The Sack, "See ya", hire an agent then head off to the nearest Benz dealership.

Only the people who never played, would say sit
because of your Draft projection!

Austin,Little and Quinn are nowhere near as talented as Clowney!
If it were me? It's not you, because you have never played.
So please stop with the madness and go make me a sandwich...lol

the GM's want to scare him into playing. If they don't play this hand right they are gonna be drafting players who did not compete in college ball during their junior year all the way into the 2nd round in a few years.

There is an entire industry of combine preparers and handlers already that will boom if Clowney sets precedent.

"A GM had already came out and said it would hurt his stock big time."

Yeah. A GM from some team that expects to be picking in the latter part of the first round.


"He bought an insurance policy."

Did the NCAA help pay for it like they did with Luck?


"Just look at Austin, Little and Quinn. They were banned from playing but spent the year preparing for the draft. Seemed to work out ok for them..."

You'd think Tarheel fans would be able to recall this quickly.


"THIS IS crazy talk, you do not sit out a year, PLEASE who started this mess?"

Wonder what Marcus Lattimore thinks about this.

The same thing Gio should have been thinking about returning punts. He could have just easily been another Lattimore story. It's easy to point out an example "after" a tragic event, but you didn't see us yelling week after week for Gio to be on the side-lines.

Potential injuries are part of the game. Get the insurance policy and hit the field. I fully expect that's exactly Clowney's plan.

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--- CriticalJ wrote:

"A GM had already came out and said it would hurt his stock big time."

Yeah. A GM from some team that expects to be picking in the latter part of the first round.


"He bought an insurance policy."

Did the NCAA help pay for it like they did with Luck?


"Just look at Austin, Little and Quinn. They were banned from playing but spent the year preparing for the draft. Seemed to work out ok for them..."

You'd think Tarheel fans would be able to recall this quickly.


"THIS IS crazy talk, you do not sit out a year, PLEASE who started this mess?"

Wonder what Marcus Lattimore thinks about this.

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" It's easy to point out an example "after" a tragic event, but you didn't see us yelling week after week for Gio to be on the side-lines."

Yes it is easy to point out an example after it happens.

It is also easy for someone like Clowney to see the incidents and use them in the process of making a decision.

I don't think he will sit out, but I can see it happening sometime down the road.