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--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:




Of course it is just another delivery method but how does that force a la carte offerings?

Regarding Aereo and similar options they aren't paying for content right now but the more impact they have the more likely it seems they will be forced to do so, I don't believe for a second that they can just broadcast content others have the rights to without compensation.

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Do your homework for a change before you talk about stuff you are clueless about. Aereo TV already won the lawsuit over the Broadcast Networks and the Cable providers. They are appealing the decision but Congress has stood on the principle that anything broadcast over the air is Free.

All Aereo TV is doing is renting me a tiny HD TV antenna that picks up over-the-air broadcast from all over the USA that is connect to the cloud with a 40 hour DVR for $8 a month. This is no different than me putting a TV antenna on my house and using Sling-Box. Congress didn't save AT&T from the competition of Voice-Over-IP and Congress didn't save Brick-and-Mortar stores from eBay and Buy.com.

Aereo TV is stealing nothing that isn't free.

Do your Homework.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=frrIMdH9LSA

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--- condor101 wrote:

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--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:




Of course it is just another delivery method but how does that force a la carte offerings?

Regarding Aereo and similar options they aren't paying for content right now but the more impact they have the more likely it seems they will be forced to do so, I don't believe for a second that they can just broadcast content others have the rights to without compensation.

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Do your homework for a change before you talk about stuff you are clueless about. Aereo TV already won the lawsuit over the Broadcast Networks and the Cable providers. They are appealing the decision but Congress has stood on the principle that anything over the air is Free.

All Aereo TV is doing is renting me a tiny HD TV antenna that picks up over-the-air broadcast from all over the USA that is connect to the cloud with a 40 hour DVR for $8 a month. This is no different than me putting a TV antenna on my house and using Sling-Box. Congress didn't save AT&T from the competition of Voice-Over-IP and Congress didn't save Brick-and-Mortar stores from eBay and Buy.com.

Do your Homework.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=frrIMdH9LSA

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www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news...-expansion-plan

"The downside: Aereo doesn't offer cable channels such as CNN, HBO, ESPN and regional sports networks. The exception is Bloomberg TV financial news channel, which reached a deal in which Aereo is paying an unspecified fee. Cable lineups typically have hundreds of channels, compared with a few dozen for Aereo."

So basically if you want any live sports broadcasts you still will need to find access to those channels although it sounds like they are adding some channels so soon they'll be just like the cable companies with a different delivery method. And you still haven't explained how those offerings will force cable to offer a la carte options.

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--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:


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--- condor101 wrote:

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--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:




Of course it is just another delivery method but how does that force a la carte offerings?

Regarding Aereo and similar options they aren't paying for content right now but the more impact they have the more likely it seems they will be forced to do so, I don't believe for a second that they can just broadcast content others have the rights to without compensation.

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Do your homework for a change before you talk about stuff you are clueless about. Aereo TV already won the lawsuit over the Broadcast Networks and the Cable providers. They are appealing the decision but Congress has stood on the principle that anything over the air is Free.

All Aereo TV is doing is renting me a tiny HD TV antenna that picks up over-the-air broadcast from all over the USA that is connect to the cloud with a 40 hour DVR for $8 a month. This is no different than me putting a TV antenna on my house and using Sling-Box. Congress didn't save AT&T from the competition of Voice-Over-IP and Congress didn't save Brick-and-Mortar stores from eBay and Buy.com.

Do your Homework.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=frrIMdH9LSA

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www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news...-expansion-plan

"The downside: Aereo doesn't offer cable channels such as CNN, HBO, ESPN and regional sports networks. The exception is Bloomberg TV financial news channel, which reached a deal in which Aereo is paying an unspecified fee. Cable lineups typically have hundreds of channels, compared with a few dozen for Aereo."

So basically if you want any live sports broadcasts you still will need to find access to those channels and you still haven't explained how those offerings will force cable to offer a la carte options.

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Aereo TV still destroys your B1G Network channel carriage model in New York now that you got Rutgers and Maryland. Since Canada went to A La Carte it is Specialties Sports channels like Fox Sports that been hurt the most.

Only a small percentage in NYC care about college football and the Cable companies aren't going to force people to pay $0.85 a month for the B1G Network unless it is a option when Aereo TV and other Internet TV is eating their lunch. A La Carte TV is coming since it is the only thing that will keep Cable in business or they will go the way of the music and book industry where people are getting all their content over the internet since it is cheaper.

I'm no expert, but the way the Big Ten makes money with its Big Ten Network Tax is blacking out UMd and Rutgers on BTN until the cable providers agree to move it to first tier and pay five times the carriage (presumably under pressure from the dozens of outraged fans of each school). Of course, most people in New Jersey and Maryland could care less about the Big Ten but will be forced to pay the tax if they want other first-tier cable. If a la carte catches on, there won't be bundled channels that you are forced to pay for, which is what Delaney is doing, forcing people to pay for BTN that do not want it, buy essentially extorting the cable providers in NJ and MD by blacking out games until moved to first tier (Delaney already said this is what they are doing). It remains to be see if this plot will even work, but if a la carte becomes the norm it certainly pulls the rug out from underneath the Big Ten Network Tax, people will just buy the channels they want.

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--- condor101 wrote:

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--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:


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--- condor101 wrote:

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--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:




Of course it is just another delivery method but how does that force a la carte offerings?

Regarding Aereo and similar options they aren't paying for content right now but the more impact they have the more likely it seems they will be forced to do so, I don't believe for a second that they can just broadcast content others have the rights to without compensation.

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Do your homework for a change before you talk about stuff you are clueless about. Aereo TV already won the lawsuit over the Broadcast Networks and the Cable providers. They are appealing the decision but Congress has stood on the principle that anything over the air is Free.

All Aereo TV is doing is renting me a tiny HD TV antenna that picks up over-the-air broadcast from all over the USA that is connect to the cloud with a 40 hour DVR for $8 a month. This is no different than me putting a TV antenna on my house and using Sling-Box. Congress didn't save AT&T from the competition of Voice-Over-IP and Congress didn't save Brick-and-Mortar stores from eBay and Buy.com.

Do your Homework.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=frrIMdH9LSA

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www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news...-expansion-plan

"The downside: Aereo doesn't offer cable channels such as CNN, HBO, ESPN and regional sports networks. The exception is Bloomberg TV financial news channel, which reached a deal in which Aereo is paying an unspecified fee. Cable lineups typically have hundreds of channels, compared with a few dozen for Aereo."

So basically if you want any live sports broadcasts you still will need to find access to those channels and you still haven't explained how those offerings will force cable to offer a la carte options.

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Aereo TV still destroys your B1G Network channel carriage model in New York now that you got Rutgers and Maryland. Since Canada went to A La Carte it is Specialties Sports channels like Fox Sports that been hurt the most.

Only a small percentage in NYC care about college football and the Cable companies aren't going to force people to pay $0.85 a month for the B1G Network unless it is a option when Aereo TV is eating their lunch. A La Carte TV is coming since it is the only thing that will keep Cable in business or they will go the way of the music and book industry where people are getting all their content over the internet

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--- condor101 wrote:

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--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:


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--- condor101 wrote:

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--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:




Of course it is just another delivery method but how does that force a la carte offerings?

Regarding Aereo and similar options they aren't paying for content right now but the more impact they have the more likely it seems they will be forced to do so, I don't believe for a second that they can just broadcast content others have the rights to without compensation.

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Do your homework for a change before you talk about stuff you are clueless about. Aereo TV already won the lawsuit over the Broadcast Networks and the Cable providers. They are appealing the decision but Congress has stood on the principle that anything over the air is Free.

All Aereo TV is doing is renting me a tiny HD TV antenna that picks up over-the-air broadcast from all over the USA that is connect to the cloud with a 40 hour DVR for $8 a month. This is no different than me putting a TV antenna on my house and using Sling-Box. Congress didn't save AT&T from the competition of Voice-Over-IP and Congress didn't save Brick-and-Mortar stores from eBay and Buy.com.

Do your Homework.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=frrIMdH9LSA

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www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news...-expansion-plan

"The downside: Aereo doesn't offer cable channels such as CNN, HBO, ESPN and regional sports networks. The exception is Bloomberg TV financial news channel, which reached a deal in which Aereo is paying an unspecified fee. Cable lineups typically have hundreds of channels, compared with a few dozen for Aereo."

So basically if you want any live sports broadcasts you still will need to find access to those channels and you still haven't explained how those offerings will force cable to offer a la carte options.

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Aereo TV still destroys your B1G Network channel carriage model in New York now that you got Rutgers and Maryland. Since Canada went to A La Carte it is Specialties Sports channels like Fox Sports that been hurt the most.

Only a small percentage in NYC care about college football and the Cable companies aren't going to force people to pay $0.85 a month for the B1G Network unless it is a option when Aereo TV is eating their lunch. A La Carte TV is coming since it is the only thing that will keep Cable in business or they will go the way of the music and book industry where people are getting all their content over the internet

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How so? If Aereo is basically like using a TV antenna that option's been available for decades yet cable companies have still profited. It sounds like all Aereo does is rent you a DVR and allow you to access things over the internet, that doesn't change the content available or not to subscribers. Yes, it might push down the rates for packages of the free channels but, if anything, it could make the cable distributors more reliant on the cable channels as a product differentiator.

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I'm no expert, but the way the Big Ten makes money with its Big Ten Network Tax is blacking out UMd and Rutgers on BTN until the cable providers agree to move it to first tier and pay five times the carriage (presumably under pressure from the dozens of outraged fans of each school). Of course, most people in New Jersey and Maryland could care less about the Big Ten but will be forced to pay the tax if they want other first-tier cable. If a la carte catches on, there won't be bundled channels that you are forced to pay for, which is what Delaney is doing, forcing people to pay for BTN that do not want it, buy essentially extorting the cable providers in NJ and MD by blacking out games until moved to first tier (Delaney already said this is what they are doing). It remains to be see if this plot will even work, but if a la carte becomes the norm it certainly pulls the rug out from underneath the Big Ten Network Tax, people will just buy the channels they want.
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I agree that it is uncertain if the BTN's approach with Maryland and Rutgers will be successful. I'm highly skeptical that until the current contracts expire (whenever that is) and they can bring the other local Big Ten alums into the equation that it will be successful.

That noted, if a la carte cable comes into play I think it is safe to say the per subscriber rate will skyrocket as the effective subsidy that viewers currently get from non-viewers will disappear. That will definitely mean a drop in total subscribers but whether that will adversely impact total revenue remains to be seen.

This is correct and the Big Ten is loading up bad teams like Rutgers and Maryland that have little viewer draw as Pay-Per-View is created by the A La Carte TV model becomes the standard. Then the few good teams in the Big Ten still has to feed the weak teams that no one cares about. The B1G is cutting their own throat by picking TV Markets over quality teams that people watch.


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--- NorthStateNole wrote:

I'm no expert, but the way the Big Ten makes money with its Big Ten Network Tax is blacking out UMd and Rutgers on BTN until the cable providers agree to move it to first tier and pay five times the carriage (presumably under pressure from the dozens of outraged fans of each school). Of course, most people in New Jersey and Maryland could care less about the Big Ten but will be forced to pay the tax if they want other first-tier cable. If a la carte catches on, there won't be bundled channels that you are forced to pay for, which is what Delaney is doing, forcing people to pay for BTN that do not want it, buy essentially extorting the cable providers in NJ and MD by blacking out games until moved to first tier (Delaney already said this is what they are doing). It remains to be see if this plot will even work, but if a la carte becomes the norm it certainly pulls the rug out from underneath the Big Ten Network Tax, people will just buy the channels they want.

So what are the approved teams....md and rutgers have potential.....what others are out there....and make it realistic...dont give me bama or florida or that kind of stuff

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--- condor101 wrote:

This is correct and the Big Ten is loading up bad teams like Rutgers and Maryland that have little viewer draw as Pay-Per-View is created by the A La Carte TV model becomes the standard. Then the few good teams in the Big Ten still has to feed the weak teams that no one cares about. The B1G is cutting their own throat by picking TV Markets over quality teams that people watch.


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--- NorthStateNole wrote:

I'm no expert, but the way the Big Ten makes money with its Big Ten Network Tax is blacking out UMd and Rutgers on BTN until the cable providers agree to move it to first tier and pay five times the carriage (presumably under pressure from the dozens of outraged fans of each school). Of course, most people in New Jersey and Maryland could care less about the Big Ten but will be forced to pay the tax if they want other first-tier cable. If a la carte catches on, there won't be bundled channels that you are forced to pay for, which is what Delaney is doing, forcing people to pay for BTN that do not want it, buy essentially extorting the cable providers in NJ and MD by blacking out games until moved to first tier (Delaney already said this is what they are doing). It remains to be see if this plot will even work, but if a la carte becomes the norm it certainly pulls the rug out from underneath the Big Ten Network Tax, people will just buy the channels they want.

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--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:


How so? If Aereo is basically like using a TV antenna that option's been available for decades yet cable companies have still profited. It sounds like all Aereo does is rent you a DVR and allow you to access things over the internet, that doesn't change the content available or not to subscribers. Yes, it might push down the rates for packages of the free channels but, if anything, it could make the cable distributors more reliant on the cable channels as a product differentiator.

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My housing association won't let me put a TV antenna on my roof so that forces me into cable. Aereo TV fixes that. I can see any movie over the internet for free that I can see on HBO now or pay for Netflix. Tell me how many Blockbuster Video stores do you see in your city if you don't think the Internet can delver TV? Major League Baseball sells all their games over the internet. The NFL does also but only if you live outside the USA and that will change.

Do you really think if the 12 million people in the NYC TV market want the Big Ten channel? You keep pretending people want to watch the B1G Network that is mainly men and women Olympic sports and old football games like ESPN Classic shows. How many people in NYC want to pay almost a dollar each and every month for that?

A La Carter TV is coming and specialties sports channels like the B1G Network are going to be the big losers. Good luck feed all the teams that no one watches when the B1G is basically a Pay-Per-View Model.

For the most part, people will follow their school when winning and not as much when losing. The key is that there are more fans following large state schools when they are winning (more alumni AND more people that just identify them with the state) than there are secondary state schools or private schools. There are exceptions like Notre Dame football and Duke basketball but for the vast majority of programs the large state schools have a larger potential audience.

Now you combine a large number of those schools in one conference and it's impossible for every school to be down because they are playing one another. So yes, Maryland and Rutgers may not be at their peak athletically but that stuff averages out over the long haul. If they aren't winning, maybe Minnesota does instead and that draws more viewers there. If Rutgers is beating Purdue over a specific period, you would expect the Rutgers viewership to go up and Purdue to go down. The important thing is to get large potential audiences and then it will average out. Someone has to be winning these conferences even when they are down and those fans will watch in large numbers.


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--- condor101 wrote:

This is correct and the Big Ten is loading up bad teams like Rutgers and Maryland that have little viewer draw as Pay-Per-View is created by the A La Carte TV model becomes the standard. Then the few good teams in the Big Ten still has to feed the weak teams that no one cares about. The B1G is cutting their own throat by picking TV Markets over quality teams that people watch.


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--- NorthStateNole wrote:

I'm no expert, but the way the Big Ten makes money with its Big Ten Network Tax is blacking out UMd and Rutgers on BTN until the cable providers agree to move it to first tier and pay five times the carriage (presumably under pressure from the dozens of outraged fans of each school). Of course, most people in New Jersey and Maryland could care less about the Big Ten but will be forced to pay the tax if they want other first-tier cable. If a la carte catches on, there won't be bundled channels that you are forced to pay for, which is what Delaney is doing, forcing people to pay for BTN that do not want it, buy essentially extorting the cable providers in NJ and MD by blacking out games until moved to first tier (Delaney already said this is what they are doing). It remains to be see if this plot will even work, but if a la carte becomes the norm it certainly pulls the rug out from underneath the Big Ten Network Tax, people will just buy the channels they want.

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--- condor101 wrote:

--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:


How so? If Aereo is basically like using a TV antenna that option's been available for decades yet cable companies have still profited. It sounds like all Aereo does is rent you a DVR and allow you to access things over the internet, that doesn't change the content available or not to subscribers. Yes, it might push down the rates for packages of the free channels but, if anything, it could make the cable distributors more reliant on the cable channels as a product differentiator.

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My housing association won't let me put a TV antenna on my roof so that forces me into cable. Aereo TV fixes that. I can see any movie over the internet for free that I can see on HBO now or pay for Netflix. Tell me how many Blockbuster Video stores do you see in your city if you don't think the Internet can delver TV? Major League Baseball sells all their games over the internet. The NFL does also but only if you live outside the USA and that will change.

Do you really think if the 12 million people in the NYC TV market want the Big Ten channel? You keep pretending people want to watch the B1G Network that is mainly men and women Olympic sports and old football games like ESPN Classic shows. How many people in NYC want to pay almost a dollar each and every month for that?

A La Carter TV is coming and specialties sports channels like the B1G Network are going to be the big losers. Good luck feed all the teams that no one watches when the B1G is basically a Pay-Per-View Model.

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I don't expect the number of subscribers to be close but if the per subscriber rate skyrockets as most expect in an a la carte system then they could lose as much as 80% of their subscribers and still make the same. In addition, I don't think a la carte will be as popular as many people think as many will remain with the current system they are comfortable with when they realize that their costs won't drop as much as they had hoped unless they drastically slash the number of channels they receive.

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--- condor101 wrote:

--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:


How so? If Aereo is basically like using a TV antenna that option's been available for decades yet cable companies have still profited. It sounds like all Aereo does is rent you a DVR and allow you to access things over the internet, that doesn't change the content available or not to subscribers. Yes, it might push down the rates for packages of the free channels but, if anything, it could make the cable distributors more reliant on the cable channels as a product differentiator.

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My housing association won't let me put a TV antenna on my roof so that forces me into cable. Aereo TV fixes that. I can see any movie over the internet for free that I can see on HBO now or pay for Netflix. Tell me how many Blockbuster Video stores do you see in your city if you don't think the Internet can delver TV? Major League Baseball sells all their games over the internet. The NFL does also but only if you live outside the USA and that will change.

Do you really think if the 12 million people in the NYC TV market want the Big Ten channel? You keep pretending people want to watch the B1G Network that is mainly men and women Olympic sports and old football games like ESPN Classic shows. How many people in NYC want to pay almost a dollar each and every month for that?

A La Carter TV is coming and specialties sports channels like the B1G Network are going to be the big losers. Good luck feed all the teams that no one watches when the B1G is basically a Pay-Per-View Model.

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So much to address here.

1. Delivery is a choice. Content is not. Someone will be paying for the BTN if they want to view it. Do people want to view it? You say no. Yet, most every cable/satellite provider in the conference footprint makes it availabe on their basic package. I doubt they agreed to do that if there wasn't strong demand for it and they were at risk to lose customers.

2. Yes people watch MLB on the internet. MLB still makes the money if that's how people want to watch their baseball games. I buy the baseball package every year through DirecTV because my setup is currently better to view it that way. Some day I may decide I'd rather view it online. Either way, however, MLB still gets my money.

3. I don't think the Big Ten needs the NYC market to make Rutgers profitable. If they bring New Jersey to the table they've done their job. Any penetration into the NYC market is an added bonus. It's a pro sports town no doubt about it. It could be why the co-owner of the network just bought a controlling interest in the YES network that broadcasts most Yankees games all season. Fox is trying to build a portfolio of sports channels it can package together just like ESPN has done. Would the BTN get on in NYC on its own? Would it get on packaged with YES and other Fox Sports Channels? We shall see.

4. As someone else pointed out, if things do go ala carte then the bundled prices aren't going to be what each consumer pays. Those are going to go way up. Just because $1 is what may be allocated out of my bill to go to BTN right now doesn't mean that's the price I'd get in an ala carte system. Truthfully, I'd be willing to pay at least 10 times that and so would most fans of Big Ten schools that want to watch all their team's football and basketball games each year. So yes, the number of subscribers would decline. However, the revenue per subscriber would most likely increase substantially. Where those numbers would play out is pure speculation but you seem to project your willingness to watch the channel onto everyone else. I can assure you the channel is very popular among the Big Ten states. Also, ask yourself how much it would be worth to you have the channel that 2-3 UNC football games are on every month in the fall and maybe 5-6 UNC basketball games are on each month in the winter and spring time? That's the value of the Big Ten Network to the conference members and that's if you have no interest in any non-revenue sport or how other conference teams are doing. And with 13 large state schools out there, that's alot of potential customers.

I don't know if anything is going to happen or not, but there's way too much chatter for nothing to be going on. Maybe nothing will come of it, but I think it's clear that conversations are being had.

If the ACC does come unspun, hope to see UNC folks on The Grove soon, enjoying one of the best tailgates in the country.

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--- NaturalStateReb wrote:

I don't know if anything is going to happen or not, but there's way too much chatter for nothing to be going on. Maybe nothing will come of it, but I think it's clear that conversations are being had.

If the ACC does come unspun, hope to see UNC folks on The Grove soon, enjoying one of the best tailgates in the country.

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The chatter is coming from the guys on WVU's B12 board since they cover conferences realignment, Sasquatch and UFO sightings. There is almost nothing in the real news.

IMHO, No ACC teams want to be in the Big Ten or Big 12 but maybe a few that would jump to the SEC if they got an offer.

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--- NaturalStateReb wrote:

I don't know if anything is going to happen or not, but there's way too much chatter for nothing to be going on. Maybe nothing will come of it, but I think it's clear that conversations are being had.

If the ACC does come unspun, hope to see UNC folks on The Grove soon, enjoying one of the best tailgates in the country.

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I'm sure there are ongoing conversations as everyone does their due diligence but that doesn't mean anyone is even interested, they're just covering their bases. I suspect most of the chatter is trumped up with the intent of hopefully causing someone to act rashly and I don't think that will happen.

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--- condor101 wrote:

--- IrishTerryConklin wrote:


How so? If Aereo is basically like using a TV antenna that option's been available for decades yet cable companies have still profited. It sounds like all Aereo does is rent you a DVR and allow you to access things over the internet, that doesn't change the content available or not to subscribers. Yes, it might push down the rates for packages of the free channels but, if anything, it could make the cable distributors more reliant on the cable channels as a product differentiator.

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My housing association won't let me put a TV antenna on my roof so that forces me into cable. Aereo TV fixes that. I can see any movie over the internet for free that I can see on HBO now or pay for Netflix. Tell me how many Blockbuster Video stores do you see in your city if you don't think the Internet can delver TV? Major League Baseball sells all their games over the internet. The NFL does also but only if you live outside the USA and that will change.

Do you really think if the 12 million people in the NYC TV market want the Big Ten channel? You keep pretending people want to watch the B1G Network that is mainly men and women Olympic sports and old football games like ESPN Classic shows. How many people in NYC want to pay almost a dollar each and every month for that?

A La Carter TV is coming and specialties sports channels like the B1G Network are going to be the big losers. Good luck feed all the teams that no one watches when the B1G is basically a Pay-Per-View Model.

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I don't expect the number of subscribers to be close but if the per subscriber rate skyrockets as most expect in an a la carte system then they could lose as much as 80% of their subscribers and still make the same. In addition, I don't think a la carte will be as popular as many people think as many will remain with the current system they are comfortable with when they realize that their costs won't drop as much as they had hoped unless they drastically slash the number of channels they receive.

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People want A La Carte TV...


Fact is maybe cable providers want A La Carte TV... since DirecTV says Viacom is seeking a 30% hike in annual fees for its channels, or an extra $1 billion over about five years. Viacom says it just wants fair market value for its shows.

articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/...azarus-20120713

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--- NaturalStateReb wrote:

I don't know if anything is going to happen or not, but there's way too much chatter for nothing to be going on. Maybe nothing will come of it, but I think it's clear that conversations are being had.

If the ACC does come unspun, hope to see UNC folks on The Grove soon, enjoying one of the best tailgates in the country.

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The chatter is coming from the guys on WVU's B12 board since they cover conferences realignment, Sasquatch and UFO sightings. There is almost nothing in the real news.

IMHO, No ACC teams want to be in the Big Ten or Big 12 but maybe a few that would jump to the SEC if they got an offer.

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Bobo, Moneymaker and the BFRO crew were just in WVA to film an episode of "Finding Bigfoot." Maybe that will distract them. They're convinced that the demonic screams they heard at night in the Greenbrier Valley were Sasquatchy in origin. If it's a choice between the B1G, the B12 or Saquatch, I'll go with Bigfoot every time.

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--- NaturalStateReb wrote:

I don't know if anything is going to happen or not, but there's way too much chatter for nothing to be going on. Maybe nothing will come of it, but I think it's clear that conversations are being had.

If the ACC does come unspun, hope to see UNC folks on The Grove soon, enjoying one of the best tailgates in the country.

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The chatter is coming from the guys on WVU's B12 board since they cover conferences realignment, Sasquatch and UFO sightings. There is almost nothing in the real news.

IMHO, No ACC teams want to be in the Big Ten or Big 12 but maybe a few that would jump to the SEC if they got an offer.

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Well, at least they wouldn't have far to go for the Sasquatch sightings.

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--- condor101 wrote:

People want A La Carte TV...


articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/...azarus-20120713

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People want a lot of things that they don't get, the idea of a la carte cable has been around since cable became popular decades ago. It is a real possibility that it will eventually come to pass, perhaps in the next couple years even, but there will still be those that prefer the current model when they really see what a la carte will mean and even amongst those that prefer a la carte there will still be those that are more than willing to pay for the BTN.

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--- Jason113 wrote:

According to some West Virginia fans, UNC is just dying to get into the Big 12. Got to love realignment threads.

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According to some West Virginia fans both Miami and FSU will be announce they are in the B12 tomorrow. Only everyday is Ground Hog Day in their predictions and tomorrow never comes. The WVU B12 board has the same accuracy of conferences realignment as they do Sasquatch and UFO sighting.

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Wonder what the TheDudOfWV's batting average is these days?

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--- Jason113 wrote:



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--- condor101 wrote:



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--- Jason113 wrote:

According to some West Virginia fans, UNC is just dying to get into the Big 12. Got to love realignment threads.

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According to some West Virginia fans both Miami and FSU will be announce they are in the B12 tomorrow. Only everyday is Ground Hog Day in their predictions and tomorrow never comes. The WVU B12 board has the same accuracy of conferences realignment as they do Sasquatch and UFO sighting.

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Wonder what the TheDudOfWV's batting average is these days?

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Same as it ever was, 0%.

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--- WesternStormer wrote:

Terry has been a good poster over here. He always contributes to the discussion. He is also spot on about TarHealed/CMRHeel. He/she/it is obnoxious to the nth degree, and, it reflects badly upon the majority of posters here.

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Thanks WS, I appreciate it. I try to bring something to the discussion, I realize I probably have a pro-Big Ten bias but I do my best to be objective.

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No worries, bro. I appreciate your POV. Just like you have your pro-B10 bias, we have pro-ACC bias here. This is the league, and, the teams, we all grew up watching. We want it to stay strong.

We've generally had good rapport with B10 fans over the years. MSU (hoops) and Wisconsin (football) fans have come to Chapel Hill in the past, and, they've been cool to hang out and talk sports with. I think we'd get along fine with the rest of the league members, too, if it ever got to that point. I personally believe that the ACC is in good shape going forward. Even with UMD leaving.

Its just gotten to the point that if a B10 fan visiting cannot provide any credible proof of the goings-on they hear of, I'd prefer that they just not even mention it. I know the OSU guys are just telling us what their insiders are saying, but, its sort of like the whole 'FSU-Clemson to the Big 12' nonsense we heard all last spring and summer.

There was no credible evidence of it nationally. It unnecessarily inflamed fans at both schools, and, the rest of the ACC. I'd like to avoid a repeat of that.

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--- condor101 wrote:

The chatter is coming from the guys on WVU's B12 board since they cover conferences realignment, Sasquatch and UFO sightings.

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OK, that freaking made me laugh...LOL.

Stormer I have no clue where the WV guys are getting there info. I was thinking they may be getting it from our insiders board except some of there info they give was not on our board. The reason why the confidence is so high from Buckeye fans is because WHO the info is coming from. The guy giving this info is the reason I pay for a message board. The guy is connected and always out in front of everybody. He told us about Rutgers and Maryland to the B1G so long ago that I completely forgot about when it was announced. Also was the first to call Urban to tOSU way before it was announced and to the day it would happen. The guy is good. He has never called NC to the B1g. Only that there is conversation. He also has said the Slive and Delaney are talking directly. And 1 ACC school submitted a plan to join the B1G. And that info on who is all over the rumor boards aka message boards.

Ok, you completely had me until the statement below. Slive and Delaney are talking? About what specifically? They are conference commissioners. Sure they talk. Are you implying that Slive and Delaney are sitting around a big map of the Southeast like war generals looking to carve up and divide the spoils of the conquered ACC? Because that's what it sounds like you are implying. And if you are, I don't buy it for one second.

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--- phatassjungle wrote:

He also has said the Slive and Delaney are talking directly.

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--- BamainCarolina wrote:

Ok, you completely had me until the statement below. Slive and Delaney are talking? About what specifically? They are conference commissioners. Sure they talk. Are you implying that Slive and Delaney are sitting around a big map of the Southeast like war generals looking to carve up and divide the spoils of the conquered ACC? Because that's what it sounds like you are implying. And if you are, I don't buy it for one second.

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--- phatassjungle wrote:

He also has said the Slive and Delaney are talking directly.

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Berlin is the sticking point.

NT

Okay

Do we have to stay?

Need my vaccines updated first.

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NT

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Do y'all have cookies?

hypnotic, ain't it. Come to the SEC. Come to the SEC...

Yes, master.

It was in the expansion thread so I assume that is what they are talking about it. It was in that context.
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--- BamainCarolina wrote:

Ok, you completely had me until the statement below. Slive and Delaney are talking? About what specifically? They are conference commissioners. Sure they talk. Are you implying that Slive and Delaney are sitting around a big map of the Southeast like war generals looking to carve up and divide the spoils of the conquered ACC? Because that's what it sounds like you are implying. And if you are, I don't buy it for one second.

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--- phatassjungle wrote:

He also has said the Slive and Delaney are talking directly.

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--- phatassjungle wrote:

He also has said the Slive and Delaney are talking directly.

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Collusion- noun- A secret agreement between two or more persons, who seem to have conflicting interests, to abuse the law or the legal system, deceive a court or to defraud a third party.

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--- phatassjungle wrote:

Stormer I have no clue where the WV guys are getting there info. I was thinking they may be getting it from our insiders board except some of there info they give was not on our board. The reason why the confidence is so high from Buckeye fans is because WHO the info is coming from. The guy giving this info is the reason I pay for a message board. The guy is connected and always out in front of everybody. He told us about Rutgers and Maryland to the B1G so long ago that I completely forgot about when it was announced. Also was the first to call Urban to tOSU way before it was announced and to the day it would happen. The guy is good. He has never called NC to the B1g. Only that there is conversation. He also has said the Slive and Delaney are talking directly. And 1 ACC school submitted a plan to join the B1G. And that info on who is all over the rumor boards aka message boards.

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phat, the WVA guys are just a bunch of butthurt morons who are PO'ed that the ACC has bypassed them repeatedly. This last time was particularly egregious, since we invited their arch rivals, Pitt. And, then added Louisville. They want nothing more than for the ACC to be destroyed. I may be an optimist, but, I just don't see it happening.

I appreciate that its one of your best OSU insiders giving you the information on what might be possibly regardin realignment. Not to be contrary or argumentative, but, UNC's biggest insiders have been pretty quiet on all of it. At least to my knowledge (I am not a subscriber). And, the national media is pretty mum on things also.

It would be nice if one of ours would just say SOMETHING. Heck, anything. The not knowing anything from our folks is frustrating, to say the least...lol.

Also, phat, as to you saying that Slive and Delany are talking. I am pretty skeptical of that. Something tells me that Mike Slive wants to keep Jim Delany and the Big 10 out of the SEC heartland. And, that he will do what he can to prevent that.

Stormer. Remember I am not saying it. I am repeating it. I cant answer the questions about your insiders. If anything is being talked about I would think NC would be a little more secretive for 2 reasons. If nothing comes of it why cause drama or if something is going on well just read this board. I dont think they would want an extended backlash.

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--- phatassjungle wrote:

Stormer. Remember I am not saying it. I am repeating it. I cant answer the questions about your insiders. If anything is being talked about I would think NC would be a little more secretive for 2 reasons. If nothing comes of it why cause drama or if something is going on well just read this board. I dont think they would want an extended backlash.

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Sorry, phat. I should've typed 'posted,' as opposed to 'said.'

My bad, sir.

And, fair enough on UNC insiders keeping mum.

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--- WesternStormer wrote:

Also, phat, as to you saying that Slive and Delany are talking. I am pretty skeptical of that. Something tells me that Mike Slive wants to keep Jim Delany and the Big 10 out of the SEC heartland. And, that he will do what he can to prevent that.

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That is probably the single biggest truth in all the realignment talk/rumors. Slive and Delany are mortal enemies.

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--- WesternStormer wrote:

Also, phat, as to you saying that Slive and Delany are talking. I am pretty skeptical of that. Something tells me that Mike Slive wants to keep Jim Delany and the Big 10 out of the SEC heartland. And, that he will do what he can to prevent that.

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That is probably the single biggest truth in all the realignment talk/rumors. Slive and Delany are mortal enemies.

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Maybe not mortal enemies, but, definitely each other's biggest competitor.