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Posted: 1/24/2013 2:38 PM
RE: Conference Realignment: Is Basketball Pushing UNC to the SEC
Take a wild guess how many times Chip Brown told the world last spring and summer that FSU and Clemson were done deals, had signed the paperwork etc. Only two people think thta hack is reliable...Brown and his master, D Dodd.
Sorry but Western and I follow this crap fairly closely and what you're hearing from WestchesterBUCk and other B10 clowns is word-for-word the same spew the Eers started dispensing a couple of years ago.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 4:51 PM
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Ding ding ding!
They'll add Cincy and USF to get them into new markets and recruiting footprints. The thing to watch will be USF's revenue stream and if it comes close to F$U's. If so, the Noles will freak out.
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Big XII schools now have equal revenue sharing for Tier 1 and Tier 2 media revenue. Tier 3 revenue is open to each school to do what it pleases, which is what FSU wanted from the ACC. This change in philosophy is what kept the conference together.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 5:10 PM
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Until Texas and Oklahoma say otherwise, the Big 12 won't expand.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 5:13 PM
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Take a wild guess how many times Chip Brown told the world last spring and summer that FSU and Clemson were done deals, had signed the paperwork etc. Only two people think thta hack is reliable...Brown and his master, D Dodd.
Sorry but Western and I follow this crap fairly closely and what you're hearing from WestchesterBUCk and other B10 clowns is word-for-word the same spew the Eers started dispensing a couple of years ago.
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Chip is a Texas puppet.
What I post is what I'm told or from what has come from tOSU Insider's forum, and I state that.
The money disparity between the ACC and the other 4 is huge. Three of them are circling the ACC and trying to pull it apart by offering more money and trying to get this down to 4 major conferences.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 5:26 PM
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For the wolfp ag pups reading this forum, here is a comment by an SEC fan about how he feels about y'all getting an SEC invite. ''Ew gross. We don't want NCSU. What would that bring? A kentucky rivalry? SEC fans are good, thanks. Even if it does bring an expanded market. You keep em.'' LMAO! Link to the thread. Its a good read. :D www.city-data.com/forum/atlant...big-10-a-5.html
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Posted: 1/24/2013 7:18 PM
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Geographically and culturally UNC belongs in the SEC. Vanderbilt is in the SEC as well. Academics should not be taken into account. UNC's big sports will THRIVE in the SEC. However, we must say good-bye to all those other sports. The SEC is kind of ridiculous in that it doesn't even have a men's soccer division.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 7:33 PM
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Big XII isn't going to add USF or Cincy. Quite simply, most Big XII people feel the SEC andBig 10 will raid the ACC again and we would pick up what is left. No one is saying theBig XII will move first and poach teams....and no one thinks we are going to take those other teams to get to 12.
Fwiw, WVU just signed its tier 3 deal, will be approx 9 - 10 mil a year. Not a bad return.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 7:38 PM
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Just saw this on the Wisconsin board...
"Why doesn't the the Big Ten Network just buy the whole ACC? Let them keep their conference and traditions, let us keep our conference and traditions, but have a single television network that covers both leagues. Everybody makes more money that way. Heck, let's buy the Pac-12 too. Let the B1G network be the dominant media for college sports and let ESPN do the professional ranks.
Everybody would make more money, except ESPN. Perfect.
I think it would be great."
You know, that could make the BTN what CSTV should have been, before ESPN saw the threat, and, created ESPNU.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 8:29 PM
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A few points for those of you saying UNC is in love with the ACC and would only leave if it were dead.
1) No one wants state, even the ACC doesn't want them. 2) UNC has a lot of history in the ACC, but isn't happy at how the ACC has been ran, nor in how we have been treated. ( Those of you saying we run the ACC are idiots, but you already know that. ) 3) No one wants state. 4) Everyone wants UNC. 5) Did I mention that no one, and I mean no one, wants state?
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Posted: 1/24/2013 8:54 PM
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Hilarious. Thanks for the link. --------------------------------------------- --- WesternStormer wrote: For the wolfp ag pups reading this forum, here is a comment by an SEC fan about how he feels about y'all getting an SEC invite. ''Ew gross. We don't want NCSU. What would that bring? A kentucky rivalry? SEC fans are good, thanks. Even if it does bring an expanded market. You keep em.'' LMAO! Link to the thread. Its a good read. :D www.city-data.com/forum/atlant...big-10-a-5.html---------------------------------------------
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Posted: 1/24/2013 9:29 PM
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I hope this new ACC at least gets a chance to show what it has to offer. It can really be special. FOOTBALL and BASKETBALL.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 9:47 PM
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I hope this new ACC at least gets a chance to show what it has to offer. It can really be special. FOOTBALL and BASKETBALL.
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I feel confident that the ACC will be just fine, and, will move forward as it is now. This can be a special league, if our schools...ALL of us...get it done on the field. Especially in football. ACC teams MUST begin winning those big OOC regular season games.
I am hoping being in the ACC will help elevate Pitt baseball, too. Louisville is a great add for that sport. Playing in a better league will hopefully get your program on the right track, too.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:35 PM
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eers authority (WVU) made this call on Jan. 18. Was to be announced "early this week". Wonder why the "delay"?
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BTW, wasn't there going to be an announcement this past Tuesday that Georgia Tech and Virginia was joining the B1G?
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:38 PM
RE: Conference Realignment: Is Basketball Pushing UNC to the SEC
--------------------------------------------- --- WinchesterBUCK wrote: The money disparity between the ACC and the other 4 is huge. Three of them are circling the ACC and trying to pull it apart by offering more money and trying to get this down to 4 major conferences. --------------------------------------------- www.kansascity.com/2013/01/16/...venue-list.htmlThe money difference is not huge at all. For now the ACC as a whole brings in more revenue than the SEC and way more than the B12. This will change because of the new bowl deals but remember the ACC is about to add NY and PA to the footprint, plus ND -- so better believe the media rights are going up for us, too. And take a look at the per-team payout of the B12. It will take an awesome get to add to that, and since FSU/ND will not be joining it doesn't make financial sense for them. Really, nobody in the ACC is considering B12 membership -- they can't offer more money and the geography is a nightmare. And I have to believe the B10 will have buyer's remorse after adding Rutgers and Maryland. I'm reading blurbs their grand plan to get on the basic cable tier in NJ and MD is not going to go as planned (go figure). MD/RU sports is not exactly must-see tv even in their home states. They watered down the conference brand and won't have much to show for it IMO. We'll see.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:20 PM
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I've heard this too- the cable networks balked at the kind of money the BTN wanted for MD and Rutgers. It is not impossible the B1G could just change its damn mind. --------------------------------------------- --- Soulbrothernumber1 wrote: --------------------------------------------- --- WinchesterBUCK wrote: The money disparity between the ACC and the other 4 is huge. Three of them are circling the ACC and trying to pull it apart by offering more money and trying to get this down to 4 major conferences. --------------------------------------------- www.kansascity.com/2013/01/16/...venue-list.htmlThe money difference is not huge at all. For now the ACC as a whole brings in more revenue than the SEC and way more than the B12. This will change because of the new bowl deals but remember the ACC is about to add NY and PA to the footprint, plus ND -- so better believe the media rights are going up for us, too. And take a look at the per-team payout of the B12. It will take an awesome get to add to that, and since FSU/ND will not be joining it doesn't make financial sense for them. Really, nobody in the ACC is considering B12 membership -- they can't offer more money and the geography is a nightmare. And I have to believe the B10 will have buyer's remorse after adding Rutgers and Maryland. I'm reading blurbs their grand plan to get on the basic cable tier in NJ and MD is not going to go as planned (go figure). MD/RU sports is not exactly must-see tv even in their home states. They watered down the conference brand and won't have much to show for it IMO. We'll see. ---------------------------------------------
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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:49 PM
RE: Conference Realignment: Is Basketball Pushing UNC to the SEC
So did the Nebraska cable networks right up until the games actually started. It's called negotiations. It would be beyond stupid for the cable networks to agree to anything right now when there is no real threat of losing customers until they start missing games.
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I've heard this too- the cable networks balked at the kind of money the BTN wanted for MD and Rutgers.
It is not impossible the B1G could just change its damn mind.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 4:50 AM
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I've heard this too- the cable networks balked at the kind of money the BTN wanted for MD and Rutgers.
It is not impossible the B1G could just change its damn mind.
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So did the Nebraska cable networks right up until the games actually started. It's called negotiations. It would be beyond stupid for the cable networks to agree to anything right now when there is no real threat of losing customers until they start missing games. ---------------------------------------------
Yeah, Maryland & Rutgers fans are not Nebraska fans. Nebraska football completely owns the state. Maryland & Rutgers are not nearly as dedicated as Husker fans. They also constitute a small % of their state population. Most residents of Maryland & New Jersey don't care about college sports.
Good luck with negotiations.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 6:22 AM
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to paraphrase - I have seen Nebraska football past and present, and sir, Maryland and Rutgers football is NOT Nebraska...
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So did the Nebraska cable networks right up until the games actually started. It's called negotiations. It would be beyond stupid for the cable networks to agree to anything right now when there is no real threat of losing customers until they start missing games.
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I've heard this too- the cable networks balked at the kind of money the BTN wanted for MD and Rutgers.
It is not impossible the B1G could just change its damn mind.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 6:47 AM
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I will definitely be happy when the storm of conference alignment has died down.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 7:38 AM
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I will definitely be happy when the storm of conference alignment has died down.
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Me too. But I don't think it's going to die down anytime soon. Too much greed and too much fear.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 9:52 AM
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Go look at Forbes...they showl the actual differences and they are NOT huge. That's either your ignorance showing or you are simply a liar. Either way it makes no difference.
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Take a wild guess how many times Chip Brown told the world last spring and summer that FSU and Clemson were done deals, had signed the paperwork etc. Only two people think thta hack is reliable...Brown and his master, D Dodd.
Sorry but Western and I follow this crap fairly closely and what you're hearing from WestchesterBUCk and other B10 clowns is word-for-word the same spew the Eers started dispensing a couple of years ago.
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Chip is a Texas puppet.
What I post is what I'm told or from what has come from tOSU Insider's forum, and I state that.
The money disparity between the ACC and the other 4 is huge. Three of them are circling the ACC and trying to pull it apart by offering more money and trying to get this down to 4 major conferences.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:03 AM
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Well it's Friday and Virginia is still in the ACC. So there, WVa. Dude! What say you now clown?????
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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:06 AM
RE: Conference Realignment: Is Basketball Pushing UNC to the SEC
--------------------------------------------- --- Soulbrothernumber1 wrote: --------------------------------------------- --- WinchesterBUCK wrote: The money disparity between the ACC and the other 4 is huge. Three of them are circling the ACC and trying to pull it apart by offering more money and trying to get this down to 4 major conferences. --------------------------------------------- www.kansascity.com/2013/01/16/...venue-list.htmlThe money difference is not huge at all. For now the ACC as a whole brings in more revenue than the SEC and way more than the B12. This will change because of the new bowl deals but remember the ACC is about to add NY and PA to the footprint, plus ND -- so better believe the media rights are going up for us, too. And take a look at the per-team payout of the B12. It will take an awesome get to add to that, and since FSU/ND will not be joining it doesn't make financial sense for them. Really, nobody in the ACC is considering B12 membership -- they can't offer more money and the geography is a nightmare. And I have to believe the B10 will have buyer's remorse after adding Rutgers and Maryland. I'm reading blurbs their grand plan to get on the basic cable tier in NJ and MD is not going to go as planned (go figure). MD/RU sports is not exactly must-see tv even in their home states. They watered down the conference brand and won't have much to show for it IMO. We'll see. --------------------------------------------- Those Maryland-Rutgers rivalry games will be epic: Who will wear the ugliest red & black uniforms? Which team will have the rudest fans, the battery-throwers from Maryland or the Ruts who booed our military during a time of war? Must-see TV!
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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:36 AM
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I've heard this too- the cable networks balked at the kind of money the BTN wanted for MD and Rutgers.
It is not impossible the B1G could just change its damn mind.
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So did the Nebraska cable networks right up until the games actually started. It's called negotiations. It would be beyond stupid for the cable networks to agree to anything right now when there is no real threat of losing customers until they start missing games. ---------------------------------------------
Yeah, Maryland & Rutgers fans are not Nebraska fans. Nebraska football completely owns the state. Maryland & Rutgers are not nearly as dedicated as Husker fans. They also constitute a small % of their state population. Most residents of Maryland & New Jersey don't care about college sports.
Good luck with negotiations.
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Never claimed they were. The point is that when negotiations with a state like Nebraska were a last second deal, why would anyone expect New Jersey or Maryland to get done 19 months in advance of either team even playing their first conference game?
If you think the Big Ten, or Fox who they are partnered with in the BTN, did this without doing their homework then you are probably in for some disappointment. Cable negotiations are cut throat but we saw the station get on througout the original footprint when it first launched and then in Nebraska later on. Nobody expects it to be easy but ultimately every subscriber will have the channel available to them on DirecTV and Dish so when the games actually start the cable companies will lose customers if they don't have the channel available and people start missing games. The B1G is aware that New Jersey and Maryland will be a tougher negotiation than Nebraska but don't underestimate Fox Sports here and the potential for bundling their sports channels together. I doubt Delany did this with substantial risk involved.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:52 AM
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I love the fact UNC and dook would stay together. Yes we could maintain the rivalry in two different conf but then it's once a year. When in some cases the two play for a ACC title, that makes it great. With the two in two different conf, I think that greatly diminishes one of the best rivalries in all of sports.
As for the other school in the area, if they had to start playing in the Socon again I'd be just fine with that.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:56 AM
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Posted: 1/25/2013 12:35 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- UNCsince53 wrote: A New jersey take on the BTN...funy too. :) www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/ind...en_network.html--------------------------------------------- That was pretty funny. Fuhgeddaboudit!
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Posted: 1/25/2013 12:47 PM
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This is the most powerful proof I have regarding expansion. He is talking about UVA, UNC, GT, Taxas, Kansas, and I hope FSU but probably ND. This comes from the Columbus Dispatch: Ohio State president E. Gordon Gee told the school’s Athletic Council in December that discussions about further expansion for the Big Ten conference are “ongoing.” In November, the league announced the addition of Maryland from the Atlantic Coast Conference and Rutgers from the Big East. Nebraska joined the Big Ten for the 2011-12 school year after leaving the Big 12. It doesn’t appear that the Big Ten is necessarily content to stay at 14 members. According to the minutes of the Dec. 5 Athletic Council meeting obtained by the Dispatch, Gee said “there has been ongoing discussion” about expansion and “believes there is movement towards three or four super conferences that are made up of 16-20 teams.” When a student member of the Athletic Council asked Gee what direction the Big Ten might take, Gee said “there are opportunities to move further south in the (E)ast and possibly a couple of Midwest universities.” He did not specify any potential targets but said they will make sure any new school has “like-minded academic integrity.” The Athletic Council is expected to recommend formally today an increase in Ohio State football ticket prices from $70 to $79 with the addition of "premier" games that would cost significantly more. The board of trustees is expected to vote on the proposal late next week. buckeyextra.dispatch.co...ks-ongoing.html
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Posted: 1/25/2013 12:56 PM
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The ACC just signed its Tier 1,2,3 rights to ESPN for an average of $17 million per year. That is the lowest of the 5 conferences and the other conferences are not even counting their tier 3 rights.
The B1G will be signing its new contract for tier 1 rights in time for the 2017 season and it is expected to be in the $25-$30 million range. Now throw in tier 3, which is BTN, on top of that. That is another $10+ million. We have not even talked about the bowl money from the B1G's premier paying bowls.
Did I mention B1G schools also get to sell their radio, etc rights on an individual basis? tOSU signed for $11 million per year with IMG.
I'm sorry to day but out of the 5, ACC will be by far the lowest paying conference. It will trail the B1G and SEC by a lot. Those two conferences will double what the current ACC is being paid.
ESPN has already said they would be willing to may be bump the ACC's payout per school $1-$2 million for the addition of ND's 2-3 away games per year against the ACC. That's not going to cut it. ND still keeps all of the NBC money for its home games.
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Go look at Forbes...they showl the actual differences and they are NOT huge. That's either your ignorance showing or you are simply a liar. Either way it makes no difference.
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Take a wild guess how many times Chip Brown told the world last spring and summer that FSU and Clemson were done deals, had signed the paperwork etc. Only two people think thta hack is reliable...Brown and his master, D Dodd.
Sorry but Western and I follow this crap fairly closely and what you're hearing from WestchesterBUCk and other B10 clowns is word-for-word the same spew the Eers started dispensing a couple of years ago.
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Chip is a Texas puppet.
What I post is what I'm told or from what has come from tOSU Insider's forum, and I state that.
The money disparity between the ACC and the other 4 is huge. Three of them are circling the ACC and trying to pull it apart by offering more money and trying to get this down to 4 major conferences.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 1:38 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- WinchesterBUCK wrote: This is the most powerful proof I have regarding expansion. He is talking about UVA, UNC, GT, Taxas, Kansas, and I hope FSU but probably ND. This comes from the Columbus Dispatch: Ohio State president E. Gordon Gee told the school’s Athletic Council in December that discussions about further expansion for the Big Ten conference are “ongoing.” In November, the league announced the addition of Maryland from the Atlantic Coast Conference and Rutgers from the Big East. Nebraska joined the Big Ten for the 2011-12 school year after leaving the Big 12. It doesn’t appear that the Big Ten is necessarily content to stay at 14 members. According to the minutes of the Dec. 5 Athletic Council meeting obtained by the Dispatch, Gee said “there has been ongoing discussion” about expansion and “believes there is movement towards three or four super conferences that are made up of 16-20 teams.” When a student member of the Athletic Council asked Gee what direction the Big Ten might take, Gee said “there are opportunities to move further south in the (E)ast and possibly a couple of Midwest universities.” He did not specify any potential targets but said they will make sure any new school has “like-minded academic integrity.” The Athletic Council is expected to recommend formally today an increase in Ohio State football ticket prices from $70 to $79 with the addition of "premier" games that would cost significantly more. The board of trustees is expected to vote on the proposal late next week. buckeyextra.dispatch.co...ks-ongoing.html--------------------------------------------- These minutes are proof that the Big Ten is still pursuing expansion, and they strongly imply that they are talking with schools. And "like-minded" schools in the Southeast almost has to mean ACC schools. There are too many ACC schools that could benefit from being a member of the Big Ten--such as UVa, which is not a top-tier research university. I just hope that UNC is positioning itself to get what it wants when the dominoes start falling.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 3:18 PM
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Sorry but according to some "the dominos" were falling two yeards ago and we should immediately have left the ACC for anyone that wanted us. Truith is the ACC is where we fit, where the vast majority of or fans want us to be, and where the Administration feels we will be until the Conference folds. And that is not going to happen anytime soon. This "we must jump" because somebody guesses we are a target for a fool's dream is a perfect example why fear is a terrible factor in business decision making. --------------------------------------------- --- Carolina2009 wrote: --------------------------------------------- --- WinchesterBUCK wrote: This is the most powerful proof I have regarding expansion. He is talking about UVA, UNC, GT, Taxas, Kansas, and I hope FSU but probably ND. This comes from the Columbus Dispatch: Ohio State president E. Gordon Gee told the school’s Athletic Council in December that discussions about further expansion for the Big Ten conference are “ongoing.” In November, the league announced the addition of Maryland from the Atlantic Coast Conference and Rutgers from the Big East. Nebraska joined the Big Ten for the 2011-12 school year after leaving the Big 12. It doesn’t appear that the Big Ten is necessarily content to stay at 14 members. According to the minutes of the Dec. 5 Athletic Council meeting obtained by the Dispatch, Gee said “there has been ongoing discussion” about expansion and “believes there is movement towards three or four super conferences that are made up of 16-20 teams.” When a student member of the Athletic Council asked Gee what direction the Big Ten might take, Gee said “there are opportunities to move further south in the (E)ast and possibly a couple of Midwest universities.” He did not specify any potential targets but said they will make sure any new school has “like-minded academic integrity.” The Athletic Council is expected to recommend formally today an increase in Ohio State football ticket prices from $70 to $79 with the addition of "premier" games that would cost significantly more. The board of trustees is expected to vote on the proposal late next week. buckeyextra.dispatch.co...ks-ongoing.html--------------------------------------------- These minutes are proof that the Big Ten is still pursuing expansion, and they strongly imply that they are talking with schools. And "like-minded" schools in the Southeast almost has to mean ACC schools. There are too many ACC schools that could benefit from being a member of the Big Ten--such as UVa, which is not a top-tier research university. I just hope that UNC is positioning itself to get what it wants when the dominoes start falling. ---------------------------------------------
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Posted: 1/25/2013 3:52 PM
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Our Lady is holding all the cards.
If any of the power schools from the ACC leave, then the other power schools will jump to get the best possible landing spot, and the ACC will be over. I doubt anyone disputes this.
So what looks better to ND: 1. independence in the super-conference landscape 2. full ACC membership, with the current schools plus one other 3. full membership with an augmented SEC 4. full membership with an augmented Big North 5. full membership with an augmented Big South?
I don't claim to know the answer (I'm not from WV), but if the ACC starts to break apart, they will have to choose one of these 5 options, all of which are worse in their eyes than their present situation.
Personally, I hope option 2 is more appealing than the rest, but who knows what they're thinking?
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Posted: 1/25/2013 6:20 PM
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Sorry but according to some "the dominos" were falling two yeards ago and we should immediately have left the ACC for anyone that wanted us. Truith is the ACC is where we fit, where the vast majority of or fans want us to be, and where the Administration feels we will be until the Conference folds. And that is not going to happen anytime soon.
This "we must jump" because somebody guesses we are a target for a fool's dream is a perfect example why fear is a terrible factor in business decision making.
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The idea that the ACC will fold is completely incorrect, regardless of whether or not several prominent universities leave. ESPN wants the conference to remain because it's a placeholder for their current contract.
However, that does not preclude schools from leaving. And the way things look right now, if one school leaves I think many more will follow. UNC wil not exit unless it becomes apparent that several others are going. Schools like UVA, GT, and Miami are all risks to make the leap first IMO.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 8:01 PM
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i dont think the ACC is going away, no way it happens....if you look at the top money making conferences as far as revenue ect....the ACC is right there near the top...even if they did crumble unc will be fine no matter what conference they are in, we should do whats best for us UNC....and thats the ACC at this time...we are a basketball conference theres UNC duke and everyione else as far as basketball goes,i think its good to get top teams like Syracuse and Louiville, let everone else do what they must for football, but the ACC will be the a super confernce in BB with cuse and UL coming in,
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Posted: 1/25/2013 9:18 PM
Welcome to the Big Ten!
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Posted: 1/25/2013 9:23 PM
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Posted: 1/25/2013 9:42 PM
Re: Welcome to the Big Ten!
Boilerbuilder:
We sent you John Shoop.
And that's all you get.
SUCKER!
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Posted: 1/25/2013 9:57 PM
RE: Welcome to the Big Ten!
Be careful what you wish for.....PurDon't !
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Posted: 1/25/2013 10:05 PM
RE: Welcome to the Big Ten!
This thread will not end well
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Posted: 1/25/2013 10:15 PM
RE: Welcome to the Big Ten!
Keep on dreaming my man.......keep dreaming!
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