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RE: Marquez North

Posted: 1/29/2013 3:07 PM

RE: Marquez North 




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--- redhotchiliheel wrote:

Maybe he can call up E.J. Abrams-Ward and ask him how picking Tennessee over North Carolina worked out for him.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 4:52 PM

Re: Marquez North 


What are you referring to when you say coaching/player turmoil? Yes there has been a coaching change and some guys have left early for the draft, but other than that, the atmosphere Butch Jones and his staff have created has been excellent for current and former players. There's definitely much more of a family feel than during Dooley's tenure. Whether or not it is a winning formula remains to be seen.

Tennessee has a lot to offer North and any other prospect in the country for that matter. As you said, we certainly have a more football rabid fanbase than you, the opportunity to play early in the best conference in America is a draw,and our facilities are probably only 2nd to Okie State or Oregon's right now. Also, the Vol For Life program that was implemented to focus on being good in the classroom and in the community is something that kid's and especially their families have been impressed with so far. We may have been down for a couple years, but there are still plenty of reasons to come to UT.

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--- 2012heel wrote:

Yeah, I don't get anything Tenn has to offer over UNC besides conference rep and fan base. The coaching/player turmoil there is insane. I would run away fast. I would have understood Clemson, UGA, etc., but Tenn? Makes no sense

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--- KENANWARRIOR1 wrote:

If i was going to pick a school because of the conference, then it would not be tenn.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 5:01 PM

Re: Marquez North 


agree from a Football only POV, but combined sports/books, uhuh.
Tenn degree not respected outside Tenn. UNCs respected nationwide and internationally.
Depends on how long term the recruit and family are thinking.

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--- RDUVOL wrote:

What are you referring to when you say coaching/player turmoil? Yes there has been a coaching change and some guys have left early for the draft, but other than that, the atmosphere Butch Jones and his staff have created has been excellent for current and former players. There's definitely much more of a family feel than during Dooley's tenure. Whether or not it is a winning formula remains to be seen.

Tennessee has a lot to offer North and any other prospect in the country for that matter. As you said, we certainly have a more football rabid fanbase than you, the opportunity to play early in the best conference in America is a draw,and our facilities are probably only 2nd to Okie State or Oregon's right now. Also, the Vol For Life program that was implemented to focus on being good in the classroom and in the community is something that kid's and especially their families have been impressed with so far. We may have been down for a couple years, but there are still plenty of reasons to come to UT.

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--- 2012heel wrote:

Yeah, I don't get anything Tenn has to offer over UNC besides conference rep and fan base. The coaching/player turmoil there is insane. I would run away fast. I would have understood Clemson, UGA, etc., but Tenn? Makes no sense

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--- KENANWARRIOR1 wrote:

If i was going to pick a school because of the conference, then it would not be tenn.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 5:01 PM

Re: Marquez North 


Sure there are but Tennessee is far from what they once were. There are just as many things to like about UNC and he can stay closer to home. Plus I like UNC's chances of making a BCS game before Tenn given the conferences we play in. As others have said if he wanted to play in the Sec so bad why not Florida? Or Georgia where his favorite player AJ green played?

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--- RDUVOL wrote:

What are you referring to when you say coaching/player turmoil? Yes there has been a coaching change and some guys have left early for the draft, but other than that, the atmosphere Butch Jones and his staff have created has been excellent for current and former players. There's definitely much more of a family feel than during Dooley's tenure. Whether or not it is a winning formula remains to be seen.

Tennessee has a lot to offer North and any other prospect in the country for that matter. As you said, we certainly have a more football rabid fanbase than you, the opportunity to play early in the best conference in America is a draw,and our facilities are probably only 2nd to Okie State or Oregon's right now. Also, the Vol For Life program that was implemented to focus on being good in the classroom and in the community is something that kid's and especially their families have been impressed with so far. We may have been down for a couple years, but there are still plenty of reasons to come to UT.

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--- 2012heel wrote:

Yeah, I don't get anything Tenn has to offer over UNC besides conference rep and fan base. The coaching/player turmoil there is insane. I would run away fast. I would have understood Clemson, UGA, etc., but Tenn? Makes no sense

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--- KENANWARRIOR1 wrote:

If i was going to pick a school because of the conference, then it would not be tenn.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 5:13 PM

Re: Marquez North 


Well, let's see. First off, Tennessee is pretty heavy in debt. But that won't affect North. They had to hire their, what, 6th choice for head coach? That's because all the sensible ones, or non-desperate ones, wouldn't touch the job with a ten foot pole. Plus, I consider Tennessee to be the sec equivalentof nc state.

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Sure there are but Tennessee is far from what they once were. There are just as many things to like about UNC and he can stay closer to home. Plus I like UNC's chances of making a BCS game before Tenn given the conferences we play in. As others have said if he wanted to play in the Sec so bad why not Florida? Or Georgia where his favorite player AJ green played?

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--- RDUVOL wrote:

What are you referring to when you say coaching/player turmoil? Yes there has been a coaching change and some guys have left early for the draft, but other than that, the atmosphere Butch Jones and his staff have created has been excellent for current and former players. There's definitely much more of a family feel than during Dooley's tenure. Whether or not it is a winning formula remains to be seen.

Tennessee has a lot to offer North and any other prospect in the country for that matter. As you said, we certainly have a more football rabid fanbase than you, the opportunity to play early in the best conference in America is a draw,and our facilities are probably only 2nd to Okie State or Oregon's right now. Also, the Vol For Life program that was implemented to focus on being good in the classroom and in the community is something that kid's and especially their families have been impressed with so far. We may have been down for a couple years, but there are still plenty of reasons to come to UT.

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--- 2012heel wrote:

Yeah, I don't get anything Tenn has to offer over UNC besides conference rep and fan base. The coaching/player turmoil there is insane. I would run away fast. I would have understood Clemson, UGA, etc., but Tenn? Makes no sense

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--- KENANWARRIOR1 wrote:

If i was going to pick a school because of the conference, then it would not be tenn.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 5:26 PM

Re: Marquez North 



I get the fact that it's in-state and it's a big pull and most likely the reason he ends up at UNC. I'm aware that UNC is a very good institution despite it's recent controversy and it sounds that academics are very important to he and his family.

Believe me, no one realizes that UT is far from what we once were than I or any other true UT fan. If the kid's mindset is he wants to play for UNC because there is less competition and 5-3 "wins" the division I don't want him anyways. I don't know the kid so I can't say why he isn't interested in UGA or Florida either. It is kind of perplexing since he is from Charlotte and all the best talent in state ends up going to UGA or Fla. I don't need to tell you all that though.

It sounds like Marquez is a good kid with a good family. NSD should be interesting.


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--- HeelinBoone wrote:

Sure there are but Tennessee is far from what they once were. There are just as many things to like about UNC and he can stay closer to home. Plus I like UNC's chances of making a BCS game before Tenn given the conferences we play in. As others have said if he wanted to play in the Sec so bad why not Florida? Or Georgia where his favorite player AJ green played?

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--- RDUVOL wrote:

What are you referring to when you say coaching/player turmoil? Yes there has been a coaching change and some guys have left early for the draft, but other than that, the atmosphere Butch Jones and his staff have created has been excellent for current and former players. There's definitely much more of a family feel than during Dooley's tenure. Whether or not it is a winning formula remains to be seen.

Tennessee has a lot to offer North and any other prospect in the country for that matter. As you said, we certainly have a more football rabid fanbase than you, the opportunity to play early in the best conference in America is a draw,and our facilities are probably only 2nd to Okie State or Oregon's right now. Also, the Vol For Life program that was implemented to focus on being good in the classroom and in the community is something that kid's and especially their families have been impressed with so far. We may have been down for a couple years, but there are still plenty of reasons to come to UT.

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--- 2012heel wrote:

Yeah, I don't get anything Tenn has to offer over UNC besides conference rep and fan base. The coaching/player turmoil there is insane. I would run away fast. I would have understood Clemson, UGA, etc., but Tenn? Makes no sense

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--- KENANWARRIOR1 wrote:

If i was going to pick a school because of the conference, then it would not be tenn.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 5:28 PM

RE: Marquez North 


Not sure this is a good sign. One of the Vols coaches is suppose to visit North tomorrow night.

Posted: 1/29/2013 5:39 PM

RE: Marquez North 


Old Trick when out of state school is neck and neck with kid who is looking at his home state school. They want to do the old "we got one scholly left and its between you and him. The first one who takes it gets it".
Tenn wants to avoid no Tenn. verbal and they dont want North being 'home' in North Carolina the week of NSD. Old trick, mark my words, he will get the 'one scholly left' speech.

having said all of that, it smells like sadly he is Tenn bound for superficial reasons.

Its a shame because (I could be wrong) I think he gets more reps at UNC and for sure gets more reps in Freshman year at UNC. NFL doesnt care if you go to SEC or ACC or Div II. They want to see REPS on FILM of you. More you get on field the better your chance of getting drafted HIGHER in NFL Draft. Will he play (or sit) in front of bigger crowds at Tenn? Hell ya.
But to me (I had a son recruited nationally in another sport), its about two things: 1) Academics (in case disaster, injury happens and NFL not a option) and 2) playing time for the NFL scouts to see my son on FILM.
UNC wins by a LARGE margin on BOTH of those counts.

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--- DelawareHeel88 wrote:

Not sure this is a good sign. One of the Vols coaches is suppose to visit North tomorrow night.

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Last edited 1/29/2013 5:43 PM by northernheel

Posted: 1/29/2013 5:58 PM

RE: Marquez North 


You should spray some Febreeze.


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--- northernheel wrote:

Old Trick when out of state school is neck and neck with kid who is looking at his home state school. They want to do the old "we got one scholly left and its between you and him. The first one who takes it gets it".
Tenn wants to avoid no Tenn. verbal and they dont want North being 'home' in North Carolina the week of NSD. Old trick, mark my words, he will get the 'one scholly left' speech.

having said all of that, it smells like sadly he is Tenn bound for superficial reasons.

Its a shame because (I could be wrong) I think he gets more reps at UNC and for sure gets more reps in Freshman year at UNC. NFL doesnt care if you go to SEC or ACC or Div II. They want to see REPS on FILM of you. More you get on field the better your chance of getting drafted HIGHER in NFL Draft. Will he play (or sit) in front of bigger crowds at Tenn? Hell ya.
But to me (I had a son recruited nationally in another sport), its about two things: 1) Academics (in case disaster, injury happens and NFL not a option) and 2) playing time for the NFL scouts to see my son on FILM.
UNC wins by a LARGE margin on BOTH of those counts.

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--- DelawareHeel88 wrote:

Not sure this is a good sign. One of the Vols coaches is suppose to visit North tomorrow night.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:23 PM

RE: Marquez North 


Northern,

I can't disagree with you about the academic side of things,UNC is a great school and although UT is going to great lengths to expand it's academic prestige it isn't where it wants to be , not many public Universities can compete with UNC in that regard.

However, I do believe you are off on the idea that North will get more reps at UNC. We had a great WR recruiting class last year, probably the best in the country, but only 2 of those guys saw the field with one of those guys being a JUCO transfer who will most likely be a top 15 pick. This is a big reason why I think UT is a finalist for North. Patterson and Hunter going pro opened up early playing time. With North's size, speed and what seems to be a solid head on his shoulders he should be able to come in and contribute right away wherever he goes.
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--- northernheel wrote:

having said all of that, it smells like sadly he is Tenn bound for superficial reasons.

Its a shame because (I could be wrong) I think he gets more reps at UNC and for sure gets more reps in Freshman year at UNC. NFL doesnt care if you go to SEC or ACC or Div II. They want to see REPS on FILM of you. More you get on field the better your chance of getting drafted HIGHER in NFL Draft. Will he play (or sit) in front of bigger crowds at Tenn? Hell ya.
But to me (I had a son recruited nationally in another sport), its about two things: 1) Academics (in case disaster, injury happens and NFL not a option) and 2) playing time for the NFL scouts to see my son on FILM.
UNC wins by a LARGE margin on BOTH of those counts.

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--- DelawareHeel88 wrote:

Not sure this is a good sign. One of the Vols coaches is suppose to visit North tomorrow night.

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Last edited 1/29/2013 9:25 PM by RDUVOL

Posted: 1/29/2013 10:20 PM

Re: Marquez North 


Hard to change an entire atmosphere in 2 months. Remains to be seen if it is genuine change.

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--- RDUVOL wrote:

What are you referring to when you say coaching/player turmoil? Yes there has been a coaching change and some guys have left early for the draft, but other than that, the atmosphere Butch Jones and his staff have created has been excellent for current and former players. There's definitely much more of a family feel than during Dooley's tenure. Whether or not it is a winning formula remains to be seen.

Tennessee has a lot to offer North and any other prospect in the country for that matter. As you said, we certainly have a more football rabid fanbase than you, the opportunity to play early in the best conference in America is a draw,and our facilities are probably only 2nd to Okie State or Oregon's right now. Also, the Vol For Life program that was implemented to focus on being good in the classroom and in the community is something that kid's and especially their families have been impressed with so far. We may have been down for a couple years, but there are still plenty of reasons to come to UT.

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--- 2012heel wrote:

Yeah, I don't get anything Tenn has to offer over UNC besides conference rep and fan base. The coaching/player turmoil there is insane. I would run away fast. I would have understood Clemson, UGA, etc., but Tenn? Makes no sense

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--- KENANWARRIOR1 wrote:

If i was going to pick a school because of the conference, then it would not be tenn.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 10:37 PM

Re: Marquez North 


ESPN did predictions on a bunch of prospects, and they predicted North to TN. Hopefully they're wrong.

Posted: 1/29/2013 10:44 PM

Re: Marquez North 



No doubt about that, but the inroads the staff has made with big time recruits and high school coaches in such a small amount of time suggest that it is genuine.Not to mention the reception that our former players have given CBJ. He is certainly saying and doing all the right things off the field. The damage control that Butch Jones is doing to repair what Dooley neglected has been very impressive and we are getting in on some very good recruits despite our lack of success the past couple of years.
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--- 2012heel wrote:

Hard to change an entire atmosphere in 2 months. Remains to be seen if it is genuine change.

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--- RDUVOL wrote:

What are you referring to when you say coaching/player turmoil? Yes there has been a coaching change and some guys have left early for the draft, but other than that, the atmosphere Butch Jones and his staff have created has been excellent for current and former players. There's definitely much more of a family feel than during Dooley's tenure. Whether or not it is a winning formula remains to be seen.

Tennessee has a lot to offer North and any other prospect in the country for that matter. As you said, we certainly have a more football rabid fanbase than you, the opportunity to play early in the best conference in America is a draw,and our facilities are probably only 2nd to Okie State or Oregon's right now. Also, the Vol For Life program that was implemented to focus on being good in the classroom and in the community is something that kid's and especially their families have been impressed with so far. We may have been down for a couple years, but there are still plenty of reasons to come to UT.

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--- 2012heel wrote:

Yeah, I don't get anything Tenn has to offer over UNC besides conference rep and fan base. The coaching/player turmoil there is insane. I would run away fast. I would have understood Clemson, UGA, etc., but Tenn? Makes no sense

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--- KENANWARRIOR1 wrote:

If i was going to pick a school because of the conference, then it would not be tenn.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 10:49 PM

Re: Marquez North 


link?

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ESPN did predictions on a bunch of prospects, and they predicted North to TN. Hopefully they're wrong.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 10:53 PM

Re: Marquez North 


Sorry, but I don't trust anything ESPN says:

mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&...&t=11230728


They're not the sharpest tool, in the shed.


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ESPN did predictions on a bunch of prospects, and they predicted North to TN. Hopefully they're wrong.

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Last edited 1/29/2013 10:53 PM by paintitcarolinablue

Posted: 1/30/2013 12:45 AM

Re: Marquez North 


Watch NSD and count how many times any school is mentioned outside of the SEC, Texas, ND, UCLA, USC, OREGON, Okla, Ohio St., Michigan. Naturally they are picking Tenn.

Posted: 1/30/2013 8:49 AM

RE: Marquez North 


Oh I am sure thats what they are telling North, LOL. BUT, as YOU said:

"We had a great WR recruiting class last year, probably the best in the country, but only 2 of those guys saw the field with one of those guys being a JUCO transfer who will most likely be a top 15 pick."

Those three kids will play ahead of North, trust me. TRUST ME!!!

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Northern,

I can't disagree with you about the academic side of things,UNC is a great school and although UT is going to great lengths to expand it's academic prestige it isn't where it wants to be , not many public Universities can compete with UNC in that regard.

However, I do believe you are off on the idea that North will get more reps at UNC. We had a great WR recruiting class last year, probably the best in the country, but only 2 of those guys saw the field with one of those guys being a JUCO transfer who will most likely be a top 15 pick. This is a big reason why I think UT is a finalist for North. Patterson and Hunter going pro opened up early playing time. With North's size, speed and what seems to be a solid head on his shoulders he should be able to come in and contribute right away wherever he goes.
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--- northernheel wrote:

having said all of that, it smells like sadly he is Tenn bound for superficial reasons.

Its a shame because (I could be wrong) I think he gets more reps at UNC and for sure gets more reps in Freshman year at UNC. NFL doesnt care if you go to SEC or ACC or Div II. They want to see REPS on FILM of you. More you get on field the better your chance of getting drafted HIGHER in NFL Draft. Will he play (or sit) in front of bigger crowds at Tenn? Hell ya.
But to me (I had a son recruited nationally in another sport), its about two things: 1) Academics (in case disaster, injury happens and NFL not a option) and 2) playing time for the NFL scouts to see my son on FILM.
UNC wins by a LARGE margin on BOTH of those counts.

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--- DelawareHeel88 wrote:

Not sure this is a good sign. One of the Vols coaches is suppose to visit North tomorrow night.

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Last edited 1/30/2013 8:50 AM by northernheel

Posted: 1/30/2013 9:00 AM

Re: Marquez North 


The 2 Schools named by the Vol fan as having nicer facilities, than Tennesse have Stadiums much closer to the Size of BKS than Neyland, which I find odd!!!!

Posted: 1/30/2013 11:38 AM

Re: Marquez North 


Plus I could never get into "Rocky Top" as a fight song or football inspiration. Strikes me as something to play at a state fair.

Posted: 1/30/2013 12:17 PM

Re: Marquez North 


or a plow horses funeral ;)

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Plus I could never get into "Rocky Top" as a fight song or football inspiration. Strikes me as something to play at a state fair.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 12:52 PM

Re: Marquez North 


We don't have as many scholarships to give, and if he leaves us hanging when we could have gotten someone else...then that is pretty meh. If he's choosing Tennessee, he just needs to go ahead and do it so Alston can make his commitment to either us or State. The whole idea of waiting until NSD is somewhat meh for all teams involved imho. I guess you can get people after signing day, but that is just too much unwarranted drama.

I hope he picks UNC. He's been here tons of times. He said it feels like home at UNC. There is no place like home, and having a teammate who knows him and he knows he can trust to talk to as life does what life does to you when you get out on your own having to balance early morning workouts, practice, school, and everything else will hopefully help him realize UNC has more to offer him and UNC is the better fit for him.

Last edited 1/30/2013 12:52 PM by Fedoramases

Posted: 1/30/2013 12:58 PM

Re: Marquez North 


I fear Tenn coaches got to his Dads ego. Nothing illegal, I just think they did the whole 90,000, UNC BBall school, your son will be a Big Man on Campus here etc etc.
Which wont happen. Never works out that way. The QB is always the BMOC

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--- Fedoramases wrote:

We don't have as many scholarships to give, and if he leaves us hanging when we could have gotten someone else...then that is pretty meh. If he's choosing Tennessee, he just needs to go ahead and do it so Alston can make his commitment to either us or State. The whole idea of waiting until NSD is somewhat meh for all teams involved imho. I guess you can get people after signing day, but that is just too much unwarranted drama.

I hope he picks UNC. He's been here tons of times. He said it feels like home at UNC. There is no place like home, and having a teammate who knows him and he knows he can trust to talk to as life does what life does to you when you get out on your own having to balance early morning workouts, practice, school, and everything else will hopefully help him realize UNC has more to offer him and UNC is the better fit for him.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:38 PM

Re: Marquez North 


this--its dads call

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--- northernheel wrote:

I fear Tenn coaches got to his Dads ego. Nothing illegal, I just think they did the whole 90,000, UNC BBall school, your son will be a Big Man on Campus here etc etc.
Which wont happen. Never works out that way. The QB is always the BMOC

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--- Fedoramases wrote:

We don't have as many scholarships to give, and if he leaves us hanging when we could have gotten someone else...then that is pretty meh. If he's choosing Tennessee, he just needs to go ahead and do it so Alston can make his commitment to either us or State. The whole idea of waiting until NSD is somewhat meh for all teams involved imho. I guess you can get people after signing day, but that is just too much unwarranted drama.

I hope he picks UNC. He's been here tons of times. He said it feels like home at UNC. There is no place like home, and having a teammate who knows him and he knows he can trust to talk to as life does what life does to you when you get out on your own having to balance early morning workouts, practice, school, and everything else will hopefully help him realize UNC has more to offer him and UNC is the better fit for him.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:47 PM

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The 2 Schools named by the Vol fan as having nicer facilities, than Tennesse have Stadiums much closer to the Size of BKS than Neyland, which I find odd!!!!

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Hes referring to NIKE and oregon. Have you seen there football center? Hes not talking about their stadium per say as their weightlifting and football center in general. There was an article about it. You should check it out, its the best in the NCAA by far. The locker rooms have to be the nicest. The Spas and other stuff are cool too.

Posted: 1/30/2013 1:52 PM

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--- northernheel wrote:

I fear Tenn coaches got to his Dads ego. Nothing illegal, I just think they did the whole 90,000, UNC BBall school, your son will be a Big Man on Campus here etc etc.
Which wont happen. Never works out that way. The QB is always the BMOC

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Unless your name is GIO:-)

Posted: 1/30/2013 2:00 PM

RE: Marquez North 


I think the academic discrepancy is overstated in these football recruiting scenarios. Many of these athletes come from families in which no one has ever been to college, much less a state flagship institution.

Carolina may have tougher entrance standards and departments that are generally better ranked, but both are large scale universities with great facilities and a full range of academic opportunities. And when you really look at the opportunities opened up by each diploma, the difference is very much at the margin. And is there any real difference to a football recruit?

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--- RDUVOL wrote:

Northern,

I can't disagree with you about the academic side of things,UNC is a great school and although UT is going to great lengths to expand it's academic prestige it isn't where it wants to be , not many public Universities can compete with UNC in that regard.

However, I do believe you are off on the idea that North will get more reps at UNC. We had a great WR recruiting class last year, probably the best in the country, but only 2 of those guys saw the field with one of those guys being a JUCO transfer who will most likely be a top 15 pick. This is a big reason why I think UT is a finalist for North. Patterson and Hunter going pro opened up early playing time. With North's size, speed and what seems to be a solid head on his shoulders he should be able to come in and contribute right away wherever he goes.
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--- northernheel wrote:

having said all of that, it smells like sadly he is Tenn bound for superficial reasons.

Its a shame because (I could be wrong) I think he gets more reps at UNC and for sure gets more reps in Freshman year at UNC. NFL doesnt care if you go to SEC or ACC or Div II. They want to see REPS on FILM of you. More you get on field the better your chance of getting drafted HIGHER in NFL Draft. Will he play (or sit) in front of bigger crowds at Tenn? Hell ya.
But to me (I had a son recruited nationally in another sport), its about two things: 1) Academics (in case disaster, injury happens and NFL not a option) and 2) playing time for the NFL scouts to see my son on FILM.
UNC wins by a LARGE margin on BOTH of those counts.

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--- DelawareHeel88 wrote:

Not sure this is a good sign. One of the Vols coaches is suppose to visit North tomorrow night.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 2:45 PM

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That is really not giving a lot of respect to the recruit for his parents. In some cases (more in past than now) that was true. But I am seeing more and more parents emphasize education and understand the differences. Many of the current recruits have one or more parents who went to college (especially NC recruits due to NC's excellent public college system). This inst 20 years ago. Times have thankfully changed.
FYI: Marquez's Pop went to North Carolina A&T

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--- TurnedHeel wrote:

I think the academic discrepancy is overstated in these football recruiting scenarios. Many of these athletes come from families in which no one has ever been to college, much less a state flagship institution.

Carolina may have tougher entrance standards and departments that are generally better ranked, but both are large scale universities with great facilities and a full range of academic opportunities. And when you really look at the opportunities opened up by each diploma, the difference is very much at the margin. And is there any real difference to a football recruit?

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--- RDUVOL wrote:

Northern,

I can't disagree with you about the academic side of things,UNC is a great school and although UT is going to great lengths to expand it's academic prestige it isn't where it wants to be , not many public Universities can compete with UNC in that regard.

However, I do believe you are off on the idea that North will get more reps at UNC. We had a great WR recruiting class last year, probably the best in the country, but only 2 of those guys saw the field with one of those guys being a JUCO transfer who will most likely be a top 15 pick. This is a big reason why I think UT is a finalist for North. Patterson and Hunter going pro opened up early playing time. With North's size, speed and what seems to be a solid head on his shoulders he should be able to come in and contribute right away wherever he goes.
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--- northernheel wrote:

having said all of that, it smells like sadly he is Tenn bound for superficial reasons.

Its a shame because (I could be wrong) I think he gets more reps at UNC and for sure gets more reps in Freshman year at UNC. NFL doesnt care if you go to SEC or ACC or Div II. They want to see REPS on FILM of you. More you get on field the better your chance of getting drafted HIGHER in NFL Draft. Will he play (or sit) in front of bigger crowds at Tenn? Hell ya.
But to me (I had a son recruited nationally in another sport), its about two things: 1) Academics (in case disaster, injury happens and NFL not a option) and 2) playing time for the NFL scouts to see my son on FILM.
UNC wins by a LARGE margin on BOTH of those counts.

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Not sure this is a good sign. One of the Vols coaches is suppose to visit North tomorrow night.

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Last edited 1/30/2013 2:47 PM by northernheel

Posted: 1/30/2013 3:09 PM

Re: Marquez North 


Posted: 1/30/2013 3:19 PM

Re: Marquez North 


Oh I knew why he mentioned Oregon (Nike) and Okie St. (T.Boone Pickens) I just found it odd in a good way that our stadium is bigger than Oregon's and Okie St.'s by a little!!!! I guess if we got a billionaire Sugar Daddy we could have The Nicest Facilities in the Country!!!!

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The 2 Schools named by the Vol fan as having nicer facilities, than Tennesse have Stadiums much closer to the Size of BKS than Neyland, which I find odd!!!!

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Hes referring to NIKE and oregon. Have you seen there football center? Hes not talking about their stadium per say as their weightlifting and football center in general. There was an article about it. You should check it out, its the best in the NCAA by far. The locker rooms have to be the nicest. The Spas and other stuff are cool too.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 4:41 PM

Re: Marquez North 


They did a lot more than that...

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--- northernheel wrote:

I fear Tenn coaches got to his Dads ego. Nothing illegal, I just think they did the whole 90,000, UNC BBall school, your son will be a Big Man on Campus here etc etc.
Which wont happen. Never works out that way. The QB is always the BMOC

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--- Fedoramases wrote:

We don't have as many scholarships to give, and if he leaves us hanging when we could have gotten someone else...then that is pretty meh. If he's choosing Tennessee, he just needs to go ahead and do it so Alston can make his commitment to either us or State. The whole idea of waiting until NSD is somewhat meh for all teams involved imho. I guess you can get people after signing day, but that is just too much unwarranted drama.

I hope he picks UNC. He's been here tons of times. He said it feels like home at UNC. There is no place like home, and having a teammate who knows him and he knows he can trust to talk to as life does what life does to you when you get out on your own having to balance early morning workouts, practice, school, and everything else will hopefully help him realize UNC has more to offer him and UNC is the better fit for him.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 4:46 PM

Re: Marquez North 


??

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--- HeirJordan40 wrote:

They did a lot more than that...

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--- northernheel wrote:

I fear Tenn coaches got to his Dads ego. Nothing illegal, I just think they did the whole 90,000, UNC BBall school, your son will be a Big Man on Campus here etc etc.
Which wont happen. Never works out that way. The QB is always the BMOC

Posted: 1/30/2013 5:02 PM

Re: Marquez North 


do tell

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--- HeirJordan40 wrote:

They did a lot more than that...

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--- northernheel wrote:

I fear Tenn coaches got to his Dads ego. Nothing illegal, I just think they did the whole 90,000, UNC BBall school, your son will be a Big Man on Campus here etc etc.
Which wont happen. Never works out that way. The QB is always the BMOC

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--- Fedoramases wrote:

We don't have as many scholarships to give, and if he leaves us hanging when we could have gotten someone else...then that is pretty meh. If he's choosing Tennessee, he just needs to go ahead and do it so Alston can make his commitment to either us or State. The whole idea of waiting until NSD is somewhat meh for all teams involved imho. I guess you can get people after signing day, but that is just too much unwarranted drama.

I hope he picks UNC. He's been here tons of times. He said it feels like home at UNC. There is no place like home, and having a teammate who knows him and he knows he can trust to talk to as life does what life does to you when you get out on your own having to balance early morning workouts, practice, school, and everything else will hopefully help him realize UNC has more to offer him and UNC is the better fit for him.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 6:35 PM

Re: Marquez North 


It was looking good for a long time but now I'm not so sure. Not hearing good things.

Posted: 1/30/2013 7:43 PM

Re: Marquez North 


He's gone.
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