Reposted from the bball board...

Alright, I'll play along.

"...To support the department's mission, values and vision, the strategic planning team established four priorities. Those include alignment with the university's mission of educating students; finishing in the top three in the ACC and top 10 in the nation academically in each sport; finishing in the top three in the ACC and top 10 on the nation athletically in each sport; and engaging administratively with internal and external constituents to pursue the resources and structures to achieve those benchmarks of success. ..."

Absolutely impossible given this:

"ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT

Improve the academic profile of incoming student-athletes"

There is nothing wrong with the current academic profile, besides they are only talking about one sport that needs "improving." Your strategic plan cannot be based on a lie.

Then there is this:

"ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE

Attract, develop and retain the best coaches
Attract, develop and retain the best student-athletes to achieve their maximum potential"

We'll see about that when Fed comes calling for more money for asst. coaches if next season is as successful as we hope it to be. And how does one "retain the best student-athletes?" Sounds like a poke at one-dones, or two-dones for that matter.

Finally:

"ADMINISTRATIVE ENGAGEMENT

... Tell the "Carolina Story" through innovative communications, aggressive promotions and proactive public relations"

Worrying about PR is what got us into the ditch.

Most of all, unless the new chancellor is on board with the common sense bits of this giant PR exercise, it is all for naught. Too bad someone thought that the way to respond to a very nearly mortal threat to UNC athletics was via a PowerPoint presentation.

Not Bubba's finest hour.

The goals of the plan are reasonable, sound, and what we should expect of UNC. The fact Carolina needs to be far more proactive in the apparently foreign realm of PR seems obvious.

Well first, before athletes are all targeted for top 10 rankings. I suggest these elite professors that keep talking to the media get in gear as well. UNC as a University is outside the top 25 in school rankings.

I wanted to see our strategic plan to improve our defense. The other crap is over.

Schools release strategic plans like this as a way to recreate their mission statement every so often. The fact that this happens to coincide with everything that has happened over the last 30+ months is happenstance.

To me, I look at this purely from the perspective that Bubba wants to do things his way, and this plan was created in conjunction with some officials from different parts of the University as a way to give them an avenue for input while simultaneously creating a framework for the athletic department to stay folded in with the University mission. I don't think this changes a great deal of what UNC has already been doing, and I don't think it's a step that signals sweeping changes. This is simply an initiative to make public the mission of the athletic department, and to show a commitment to continuing to pursue excellence at every opportunity - something that UNC athletics has always stood for.

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--- jrobe wrote:

Well first, before athletes are all targeted for top 10 rankings. I suggest these elite professors that keep talking to the media get in gear as well. UNC as a University is outside the top 25 in school rankings.

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Just rated #17 best value university in the country (US News and World Report). At the top for public schools (Kiplinger).

colleges.usnews.rankingsandrev...ties/best-value

m.kiplinger.com/article.php?ur...;type=slideshow

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--- DpoDepot wrote:


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--- jrobe wrote:

Well first, before athletes are all targeted for top 10 rankings. I suggest these elite professors that keep talking to the media get in gear as well. UNC as a University is outside the top 25 in school rankings.

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Just rated #17 best value university in the country (US News and World Report). At the top for public schools (Kiplinger).

colleges.usnews.rankingsandrev...ties/best-value

m.kiplinger.com/article.php?ur...;type=slideshow

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Value and quality of education aren't the same thing. Good find, though.

Ditto

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--- NCU08 wrote:



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--- DpoDepot wrote:


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--- jrobe wrote:

Well first, before athletes are all targeted for top 10 rankings. I suggest these elite professors that keep talking to the media get in gear as well. UNC as a University is outside the top 25 in school rankings.

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Just rated #17 best value university in the country (US News and World Report). At the top for public schools (Kiplinger).

colleges.usnews.rankingsandrev...ties/best-value

m.kiplinger.com/article.php?ur...;type=slideshow

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Value and quality of education aren't the same thing. Good find, though.

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--- TylerBloodyTyler wrote:

Reposted from the bball board...

Alright, I'll play along.

"...To support the department's mission, values and vision, the strategic planning team established four priorities. Those include alignment with the university's mission of educating students; finishing in the top three in the ACC and top 10 in the nation academically in each sport; finishing in the top three in the ACC and top 10 on the nation athletically in each sport; and engaging administratively with internal and external constituents to pursue the resources and structures to achieve those benchmarks of success. ..."

Absolutely impossible given this:

"ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT

Improve the academic profile of incoming student-athletes"

There is nothing wrong with the current academic profile, besides they are only talking about one sport that needs "improving." Your strategic plan cannot be based on a lie.

Then there is this:

"ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE

Attract, develop and retain the best coaches
Attract, develop and retain the best student-athletes to achieve their maximum potential"

We'll see about that when Fed comes calling for more money for asst. coaches if next season is as successful as we hope it to be. And how does one "retain the best student-athletes?" Sounds like a poke at one-dones, or two-dones for that matter.

Finally:

"ADMINISTRATIVE ENGAGEMENT

... Tell the "Carolina Story" through innovative communications, aggressive promotions and proactive public relations"

Worrying about PR is what got us into the ditch.

Most of all, unless the new chancellor is on board with the common sense bits of this giant PR exercise, it is all for naught. Too bad someone thought that the way to respond to a very nearly mortal threat to UNC athletics was via a PowerPoint presentation.

Not Bubba's finest hour.

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Definitely right! There should be no general strategy to improve the academic profile of incoming student-athletes, or to attract and maintain the best coaches and student athletes, or to promote the sports history of UNC in a favorable and beneficial light. This is just ludicrous.

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--- pogo23 wrote:

Ditto

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--- NCU08 wrote:



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--- DpoDepot wrote:


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--- jrobe wrote:

Well first, before athletes are all targeted for top 10 rankings. I suggest these elite professors that keep talking to the media get in gear as well. UNC as a University is outside the top 25 in school rankings.

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Just rated #17 best value university in the country (US News and World Report). At the top for public schools (Kiplinger).

colleges.usnews.rankingsandrev...ties/best-value

m.kiplinger.com/article.php?ur...;type=slideshow

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Value and quality of education aren't the same thing. Good find, though.

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I agree with you both that value and quality aren't the same. Correlated, yes. The same, no.

I also agree that you can select a dozen different news outlets and periodicals (US News/World Report, Kiplinger, Princeton Review, USA Today, Forbes, etc., etc.) and find they all rate Carolina differently. I haven't seen anything specifically on quality of education - I'd like to in order to understand how they are empirically calculating their rankings - but if most media outlets have us in/around the top 25 of the country, I believe that's something to be proud of. How much difference is there - other than namesake and areas of specialization - between Carolina and any other top 25 institution from an educational standpoint? I have to believe it's relatively minimal.

Or, maybe I should say that as an alum, I really want to believe it's minimal! :-)

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--- CountryCousin wrote:

The goals of the plan are reasonable, sound, and what we should expect of UNC. The fact Carolina needs to be far more proactive in the apparently foreign realm of PR seems obvious.

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Yeah, not sure how you can criticize the stated PR goal... it was the lack of a good PR plan (and military) that kept this mess around so long.

Given the circumstances, the fact that ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE is one of the four priorities is impressive. Of course, it's all about execution. A vision or plan are simply words or thoughts. How it is carried out and what the culture is what's key.

My take is different. Consider that it is the goal or hope of every academic institution to be one of the best academic institutions in the nation and given what has transpired, it would have been easy to leave the atheltic performance bit out of the plan completely: "finishing in the top three in the ACC and top 10 in the nation athletically in each sport." I personally would have preferred that the plan were a bit more aggressive, i.e. competing for an ACC championship and finishing in the top 10 in the nation in each sport. Top 3 in the ACC is not a high enough goal in my opinion. Other than that, I am okay with the PR move to put people at ease. This is an appropriate move while placating to outsiders by putting ourselves down is not appropriate. The plan is forward looking and aspirational, not backward looking and self-criticizing.

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--- TylerBloodyTyler wrote:

Reposted from the bball board...

Alright, I'll play along.

"...To support the department's mission, values and vision, the strategic planning team established four priorities. Those include alignment with the university's mission of educating students; finishing in the top three in the ACC and top 10 in the nation academically in each sport; finishing in the top three in the ACC and top 10 on the nation athletically in each sport; and engaging administratively with internal and external constituents to pursue the resources and structures to achieve those benchmarks of success. ..."

Absolutely impossible given this:

"ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT

Improve the academic profile of incoming student-athletes"

There is nothing wrong with the current academic profile, besides they are only talking about one sport that needs "improving." Your strategic plan cannot be based on a lie.

Then there is this:

"ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE

Attract, develop and retain the best coaches
Attract, develop and retain the best student-athletes to achieve their maximum potential"

We'll see about that when Fed comes calling for more money for asst. coaches if next season is as successful as we hope it to be. And how does one "retain the best student-athletes?" Sounds like a poke at one-dones, or two-dones for that matter.

Finally:

"ADMINISTRATIVE ENGAGEMENT

... Tell the "Carolina Story" through innovative communications, aggressive promotions and proactive public relations"

Worrying about PR is what got us into the ditch.

Most of all, unless the new chancellor is on board with the common sense bits of this giant PR exercise, it is all for naught. Too bad someone thought that the way to respond to a very nearly mortal threat to UNC athletics was via a PowerPoint presentation.

Not Bubba's finest hour.

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