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Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join

Posted: 11/28/2012 5:31 PM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 




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--- WesternStormer wrote:

You're welcome. Some of your Big 10 brethren have come over, and, made themselves look like prise arses with their silly comments, and, p-poor attempts at humor. Only a few bothered to talk about the topic at hand. The MSU fans surprised me the most, because we'd always have a good rapport with them. We have a great deal of respect for Coach Izzo, and, MSU itself.

Yeah, discussing the war gets too personal, and, occasionally, too ugly. Save that for the ZZL. Lets talk football over here.

Its losing ancient rivals thats been the worst part. We lost Wake Forest and Clemson as annual games when the divisional split occured. FSU, too. The 9-team ACC of '92-'03 was my favorite alignment. We are having a tough time filling Kenan Stadium as it is now with the teams we've been associated with for 60+ years. I cannot imagine it being filled the way we'd like if we were in the Big 10. We have no history with your membership. It'd be hard to sell a 'rivalry' with OSU, when we've only played four times in our histories.

You like the BBQ, chicken and dumplings, and, cornbread, huh? Silly northerner, you forgot the most important thing...the SWEET TEA! LOL.

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The B1G has its knuckleheads like any fan base. Unfortunately, those with the least to say tend to scream the loudest.

It will be interesting to see how fans react to the new conference alignments. It was pretty easy for B1G fans to get excited about playing Penn State when it joined in the 90's and Nebraska more recently, given their storied pasts; I doubt Rutgers and Maryland will fill the B1G stadiums nearly as well. Attendance for teams like Ohio State and Michigan are unlikely to suffer, as those teams sell out pretty much every game no matter who they play. It's the home games for teams like Indiana, Purdue, and Illinois that you have to wonder about. It will also be interesting to see whether Rutgers's and Maryland's attendance changes. The B1G schools have huge fan alumni and fan bases that tend to spread out after graduation and travel well. Ohio State fans regularly buy up all the empty seats for away games against teams like Indiana and Illinois. Maryland, Virginia, and North Carolina are much farther away, but they're also very nice places to visit. If UNC does join the B1G, I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of scarlet in the Kenan Stadium when Ohio State comes to town.

You're absolutely right, though - familiarity breeds contempt, and it takes many years to build great rivalries. I'll miss the days of the Big 10, 11, and 12, but am hopeful that, over time, we'll come to hate the new schools as much the old ones. Stupid turtles.

Posted: 11/28/2012 6:14 PM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


I wonder just how tight a bond do UNC and state have to stay together. Would state jump at an SEC invite,even if we passed and stayed?

Posted: 11/28/2012 6:15 PM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 




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--- thebuckeye wrote:



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--- WesternStormer wrote:

You're welcome. Some of your Big 10 brethren have come over, and, made themselves look like prise arses with their silly comments, and, p-poor attempts at humor. Only a few bothered to talk about the topic at hand. The MSU fans surprised me the most, because we'd always have a good rapport with them. We have a great deal of respect for Coach Izzo, and, MSU itself.

Yeah, discussing the war gets too personal, and, occasionally, too ugly. Save that for the ZZL. Lets talk football over here.

Its losing ancient rivals thats been the worst part. We lost Wake Forest and Clemson as annual games when the divisional split occured. FSU, too. The 9-team ACC of '92-'03 was my favorite alignment. We are having a tough time filling Kenan Stadium as it is now with the teams we've been associated with for 60+ years. I cannot imagine it being filled the way we'd like if we were in the Big 10. We have no history with your membership. It'd be hard to sell a 'rivalry' with OSU, when we've only played four times in our histories.

You like the BBQ, chicken and dumplings, and, cornbread, huh? Silly northerner, you forgot the most important thing...the SWEET TEA! LOL.

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The B1G has its knuckleheads like any fan base. Unfortunately, those with the least to say tend to scream the loudest.

It will be interesting to see how fans react to the new conference alignments. It was pretty easy for B1G fans to get excited about playing Penn State when it joined in the 90's and Nebraska more recently, given their storied pasts; I doubt Rutgers and Maryland will fill the B1G stadiums nearly as well. Attendance for teams like Ohio State and Michigan are unlikely to suffer, as those teams sell out pretty much every game no matter who they play. It's the home games for teams like Indiana, Purdue, and Illinois that you have to wonder about. It will also be interesting to see whether Rutgers's and Maryland's attendance changes. The B1G schools have huge fan alumni and fan bases that tend to spread out after graduation and travel well. Ohio State fans regularly buy up all the empty seats for away games against teams like Indiana and Illinois. Maryland, Virginia, and North Carolina are much farther away, but they're also very nice places to visit. If UNC does join the B1G, I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of scarlet in the Kenan Stadium when Ohio State comes to town.

You're absolutely right, though - familiarity breeds contempt, and it takes many years to build great rivalries. I'll miss the days of the Big 10, 11, and 12, but am hopeful that, over time, we'll come to hate the new schools as much the old ones. Stupid turtles.

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When they start tossing batteries at you, you will learn to hate them pretty fast.

P.S. I am serious.

Posted: 11/28/2012 6:16 PM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


My opinion, yes. They have the little brother or step child complex. Yes, they would make the jump in a heartbeat.

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--- drowningdeep wrote:

I wonder just how tight a bond do UNC and state have to stay together. Would state jump at an SEC invite,even if we passed and stayed?

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Posted: 11/28/2012 6:16 PM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 




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--- drowningdeep wrote:

I wonder just how tight a bond do UNC and state have to stay together. Would state jump at an SEC invite,even if we passed and stayed?

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State would stab us in the back faster than K would recruit a white 3 point shooting point guard.

Posted: 11/28/2012 6:16 PM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


+1

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--- ShadowSpawne wrote:



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--- drowningdeep wrote:

I wonder just how tight a bond do UNC and state have to stay together. Would state jump at an SEC invite,even if we passed and stayed?

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State would stab us in the back faster than K would recruit a white 3 point shooting point guard.

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Posted: 11/28/2012 6:32 PM

RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


The ACC imploding would be bad for the state of North Carolina. UNC and State as public universities in NC may be pressured/prevented from leaving even if they wanted to.

Posted: 11/28/2012 7:27 PM

RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


I think it is closer to 98%. If you are surprised, as heard on the Andy Griffith Show, "Boy, you must not be from around here."

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--- buckEYEdr2B wrote:

Hey forum... Long time listener, first time caller. Excellent forum by the way.

I am really surprised by your board's complete (almost seems like 90%) objection to joining the Big Ten! I understand that for football reasons, the SEC has A LOT of allure... But there are only 8-9 conference games a year, there are only 4-5 home in conference games a year. So I have a really hard time believing football will be the biggest deciding factor.

Baseball would be a MUCH better fit in the SEC then the Big Ten, but let's be honest, most Big Ten schools play in the south the first month or two of the season anyways. Also, the Big Ten isn't bad in baseball because the play up north... They're bad in baseball because A LOT of their players grew up playing baseball up north! I really can't imagine being in the Big Ten hurting baseball recruiting for UNC, because you guys will still pull a ton of guys from the south, and they won't really have to ever play inncold weather.

So football may have a slightly better reason to join the SEC over the Big Ten (my next post will try to negate this), and baseball would be a much better fit in the SEC... But all other sports (yes including basketball) and ALL branches of academia would benefit greatly from being in the Big Ten and the CIC!!!

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Last edited 11/28/2012 7:29 PM by GforHeels

Posted: 11/28/2012 7:27 PM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 




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--- drowningdeep wrote:

I wonder just how tight a bond do UNC and state have to stay together. Would state jump at an SEC invite,even if we passed and stayed?

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Yes, and I would hope we would do the same if need be.

Posted: 11/28/2012 7:50 PM

RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


heads up ....

any post or poster who references this CIC organization in connection with the Big 10 is completely clueless as to the reality of the Big 10 universities ...... the role of the CIC organization in the scope of research at Big 10 universities would have to quintuple to reach a level which might then be described as inconsequential .......

I've seen this referenced in several posts on here ..... misinformation is hard to kill ..........

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--- buckEYEdr2B wrote:

............ and ALL branches of academia would benefit greatly from being in the Big Ten and the CIC!!!

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Last edited 11/28/2012 7:51 PM by BethelRegiment

Posted: 11/28/2012 8:51 PM

RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


Posted: 11/28/2012 9:18 PM

RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


^^^^^^^^^^

look at the CIC website .... if you bothered to read the annual report you linked - the total budget for the CIC is a little over $2 million ..... $2 million would be a rounding error for any one of these schools .....

15 people work for the CIC ...... apparently, half of them are engaged in preparing a fancy annual report ...... 40,000 people work at Univ. of Michigan .... 40,000 at one university ... one university out of how many ever there might be in the Big 10 ......

just because you can add up all the sponsored research at each of the Big 10 universities and that total comes up to some gigantic multi-billion $$$$$ number ...... it doesn't follow that the CIC organization itself has anything to with any of it other than a very, very, very tiny slice .....

of course these sports conferences want to create the impression that what they're doing has something substantive to do with the academic end of the universities ..... look over here at this $2 million ancillary outfit that equates to 0.00004% of the combined budgets of our schools ..... and maybe you won't notice our multi-million $$$ coaches and ringer athletes with their 850 SAT scores ......

there's a whole industry based on this concept in my old hometown - High Point .... in furniture they call it --> veneer .....


SMH ..... sucker .......

Last edited 11/28/2012 9:51 PM by BethelRegiment

Posted: 11/28/2012 9:50 PM

RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


^^^^^^^^^

So are you under the impression that the following statement is false: "all branches of academia would benefit greatly from being in the Big Ten and the CIC."

I don't think I ever mentioned anything about money. Universities independently submit requests for grants. If you combine all Big Ten schools research dollars, it is in the billions of dollars... And this is independent of the CIC. If you state that not being a part of the CIC is better than being a part of it... Then I really can not debate with ignorance.

Posted: 11/28/2012 10:00 PM

RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


1. the CIC organization is a teeny tiny trivial aspect of the overall research / academic output of the combined universities that make up the Big 10 sports conference ...... it's actual relevance cannot be understated ......

CIC has 15 employees .... that's about one person for each Big 10 university ..... use a little common sense ......

posters on here who have highlighted this CIC as some positive benefit of membership in the Big 10 are a dead giveaway that they don't know what they're talking about ......


2. the relationship between the academics of various universities and their member in one sports conference or another is tenuous at best .....

the ACC has several of the very best universities in American -- Dook ... UNC ... UVa ... Ga Tech ... Weak Forest .....

and it has several just mediocre or just average large public universities --- NC Statesux .. Clempson ... Fla St ..... Va Tech .....

do I think it would effect the academic end of UNC very much if it were in the ACC ... SEC ... or Big 10 ? ......... I would be hard pressed to find any convincing evidence that it would really make much difference one way or another .......


3. all this genuflecting to 'academics' in the context of this conference realignment business is pure p.r. pablum for naive nostalgic alumni who want to hold onto to their belief that big-time college sports still have some genuine connection to 'college' .....

it's all about $$$$$$$$ for the athletic department .... if academics were a meaningful consideration - you don't end up with Univ. of Louisville as your answer ......


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--- buckEYEdr2B wrote:

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So are you under the impression that the following statement is false: "all branches of academia would benefit greatly from being in the Big Ten and the CIC."

I don't think I ever mentioned anything about money. Universities independently submit requests for grants. If you combine all Big Ten schools research dollars, it is in the billions of dollars... And this is independent of the CIC. If you state that not being a part of the CIC is better than being a part of it... Then I really can not debate with ignorance.

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Last edited 11/28/2012 10:11 PM by BethelRegiment

Posted: 11/28/2012 10:00 PM

RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


The CIC might help, but UNC is certainly doing okay with research funding without it:

research.unc.edu/about/facts-r...nding/index.htm

Posted: 11/28/2012 10:01 PM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


This has become a tired argument. We can speculate all we want, but it is completely out of our control. I can only hope that that those in charge of making a decision think proactively and don't let UNC get left behind. That being said, I feel that my opinion lies with most of the other native North Carolinian Tar Heel fans in that our best option if Carolina is going to in fact leave the ACC is a move to the SEC for all aspects of the University.

Posted: 11/29/2012 12:45 AM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 



1. UNC will be fine, its the gem of the ACC.
2. The ACC is dead.
3. Per #1, UNC can pick the new conference if they are proactive.







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--- jsf5259 wrote:

This has become a tired argument. We can speculate all we want, but it is completely out of our control. I can only hope that that those in charge of making a decision think proactively and don't let UNC get left behind. That being said, I feel that my opinion lies with most of the other native North Carolinian Tar Heel fans in that our best option if Carolina is going to in fact leave the ACC is a move to the SEC for all aspects of the University.

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Posted: 11/29/2012 1:25 AM

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--- buckEYEdr2B wrote:

Baseball would be a MUCH better fit in the SEC then the Big Ten, but let's be honest, most Big Ten schools play in the south the first month or two of the season anyways. Also, the Big Ten isn't bad in baseball because the play up north... They're bad in baseball because A LOT of their players grew up playing baseball up north! I really can't imagine being in the Big Ten hurting baseball recruiting for UNC, because you guys will still pull a ton of guys from the south, and they won't really have to ever play in cold weather.

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First of all, welcome; and thanks very much for your insight and opinion.

However, I have to take issue with your assertion about UNC's baseball recruiting if the university were to affiliate with the Big 10. Much of the attraction for UNC's players is to play with and against ACC-caliber players on a regular basis.

Like the majority of ACC baseball programs, UNC targets the very best high school players in the country; and they want to test themselves against the best once they're in college. A Big 10 affiliation would alter that dimension appreciably; enough so that it would diminish the program's attraction for a material percentage of its current recruiting base.

Last edited 11/29/2012 5:39 AM by rc1126

Posted: 11/29/2012 5:56 AM

RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


Well said rc. And guys, rc knows all about recruiting/signing of quality baseball players, first hand. I would say I disagree about his use of the words "material percentage." I say it would be more like a "substantial majority."

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--- rc1126 wrote:

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--- buckEYEdr2B wrote:

Baseball would be a MUCH better fit in the SEC then the Big Ten, but let's be honest, most Big Ten schools play in the south the first month or two of the season anyways. Also, the Big Ten isn't bad in baseball because the play up north... They're bad in baseball because A LOT of their players grew up playing baseball up north! I really can't imagine being in the Big Ten hurting baseball recruiting for UNC, because you guys will still pull a ton of guys from the south, and they won't really have to ever play in cold weather.

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First of all, welcome; and thanks very much for your insight and opinion.

However, I have to take issue with your assertion about UNC's baseball recruiting if the university were to affiliate with the Big 10. Much of the attraction for UNC's players is to play with and against ACC-caliber players on a regular basis.

Like the majority of ACC baseball programs, UNC targets the very best high school players in the country; and they want to test themselves against the best once they're in college. A Big 10 affiliation would alter that dimension appreciably; enough so that it would diminish the program's attraction for a material percentage of its current recruiting base.

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Last edited 11/29/2012 5:57 AM by GforHeels

Posted: 11/29/2012 8:52 AM

RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 




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--- BethelRegiment wrote:

^^^^^^^^^^

look at the CIC website .... if you bothered to read the annual report you linked - the total budget for the CIC is a little over $2 million ..... $2 million would be a rounding error for any one of these schools .....

15 people work for the CIC ...... apparently, half of them are engaged in preparing a fancy annual report ...... 40,000 people work at Univ. of Michigan .... 40,000 at one university ... one university out of how many ever there might be in the Big 10 ......

just because you can add up all the sponsored research at each of the Big 10 universities and that total comes up to some gigantic multi-billion $$$$$ number ...... it doesn't follow that the CIC organization itself has anything to with any of it other than a very, very, very tiny slice .....

of course these sports conferences want to create the impression that what they're doing has something substantive to do with the academic end of the universities ..... look over here at this $2 million ancillary outfit that equates to 0.00004% of the combined budgets of our schools ..... and maybe you won't notice our multi-million $$$ coaches and ringer athletes with their 850 SAT scores ......

there's a whole industry based on this concept in my old hometown - High Point .... in furniture they call it --> veneer .....


SMH ..... sucker .......

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High Point? No wonder Bethel's poasts look like they do. I've got two words for you: Hick. Ree. Okay, maybe that's one word, but it's two syllables, dadburnit, Hikree, and we INVENTED furnicheer, 'cause until then you'uns was settin' on the dang FLOOR! Hikree!

Now, back to the CIC, I tend to agree with you.

Posted: 11/29/2012 8:54 AM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 




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--- ButtCheese wrote:


1. UNC will be fine, its the gem of the ACC.
2. The ACC is dead.
3. Per #1, UNC can pick the new conference if they are proactive.







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--- jsf5259 wrote:

This has become a tired argument. We can speculate all we want, but it is completely out of our control. I can only hope that that those in charge of making a decision think proactively and don't let UNC get left behind. That being said, I feel that my opinion lies with most of the other native North Carolinian Tar Heel fans in that our best option if Carolina is going to in fact leave the ACC is a move to the SEC for all aspects of the University.

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True, we can pick our conference, we can pick our friends, and we can pick our nose, but since we ain't dook, we won't. And since we ain't State, we won't pick our friend's nose.



And eat it.

Posted: 11/29/2012 10:01 AM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


^^^^^^^

all the rest of my family is in fact from Hickory ....

the Frye of Frye Hospital was my uncle ... two aunts who were librarians at LR forever ... etc. .... very fond of Hickory .....

Posted: 11/29/2012 10:44 AM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 




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--- BethelRegiment wrote:

^^^^^^^

all the rest of my family is in fact from Hickory ....

the Frye of Frye Hospital was my uncle ... two aunts who were librarians at LR forever ... etc. .... very fond of Hickory .....

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Well, if you was really from Hikree, you'd know it was LR, not Lenoir-Rhyne, oh, wait, you did. Oops, very fond of Hickory, too, kin to some Fryes by marriage, good people...

My parents are LR alums, as well as Carolina alums. Mountain Bear football was the bomb when I was a kid. The single wing was poetry in motion.

Posted: 11/29/2012 11:02 AM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ask your mom and dad if they remember Aileen and Mabel ....


back to the Big 10 ..... sorry ...

Posted: 11/29/2012 11:09 AM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 




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--- BethelRegiment wrote:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ask your mom and dad if they remember Aileen and Mabel ....


back to the Big 10 ..... sorry ...

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Yes, back to the Big 10. Michigan is a great school, several others are pretty good. It's cold. They're far away. We have no established, historic rivalries. Just say no.

Posted: 11/29/2012 11:13 AM

Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


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--- therabidrev wrote:



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--- BethelRegiment wrote:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ask your mom and dad if they remember Aileen and Mabel ....


back to the Big 10 ..... sorry ...

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Yes, back to the Big 10. Michigan is a great school, several others are pretty good. It's cold. They're far away. We have no established, historic rivalries. Just say no.

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To quote the adaptation of the old "dook university" song I first heard sung in 1965ish when a Danny Talbott-led team took on the Wolverines in Kenan:

"Don't give a #### 'bout big-body Michigan, big-body Michigan, big-body Michigan,
Don't give a #### 'bout big-body Michigan, we're from Carolina!"

(Their players at that time were much larger than ours, grain fed I guess).

I don't remember the exact score of that game, but I do remember the physical carnage of the 1979 Gator Bowl when we beat the smithereens out of the Wolverines. That was sweet.

Last edited 11/30/2012 8:19 AM by therabidrev

Posted: 11/29/2012 4:08 PM

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--- buckEYEdr2B wrote:

Hey forum... Long time listener, first time caller. Excellent forum by the way.

I am really surprised by your board's complete (almost seems like 90%) objection to joining the Big Ten!

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I can clear that up for you with just three words: North Carolina State.

If NC State's future was not a consideration by the NC General Assembly, then, there'd likely be no debate about where Carolina would end up, IMHO. But, they are a consideration, and, thats a HUGE reason why some of us are so adamant about the SEC. We cannot let them go there. The advantages that would play into their hands could hurt UNC badly down the road.

Their options are severely limited. Its the SEC, or nothing, for them. Unless the Big 12 decided to bring them in alongside FSU and CU.

OSU has no such concerns in its own state.

Just my .02 worth...

Posted: 11/29/2012 4:11 PM

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--- WesternStormer wrote:



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--- buckEYEdr2B wrote:

Hey forum... Long time listener, first time caller. Excellent forum by the way.

I am really surprised by your board's complete (almost seems like 90%) objection to joining the Big Ten!

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I can clear that up for you with just three words: North Carolina State.

If NC State's future was not a consideration by the NC General Assembly, then, there'd likely be no debate about where Carolina would end up, IMHO. But, they are a consideration, and, thats a HUGE reason why some of us are so adamant about the SEC. We cannot let them go there. The advantages that would play into their hands could hurt UNC badly down the road.

Their options are severely limited. Its the SEC, or nothing, for them. Unless the Big 12 decided to bring them in alongside FSU and CU.

OSU has no such concerns in its own state.

Just my .02 worth...

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There is much truth in this post.

Posted: 11/29/2012 4:33 PM

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--- rc1126 wrote:

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--- buckEYEdr2B wrote:

Baseball would be a MUCH better fit in the SEC then the Big Ten, but let's be honest, most Big Ten schools play in the south the first month or two of the season anyways. Also, the Big Ten isn't bad in baseball because the play up north... They're bad in baseball because A LOT of their players grew up playing baseball up north! I really can't imagine being in the Big Ten hurting baseball recruiting for UNC, because you guys will still pull a ton of guys from the south, and they won't really have to ever play in cold weather.

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First of all, welcome; and thanks very much for your insight and opinion.

However, I have to take issue with your assertion about UNC's baseball recruiting if the university were to affiliate with the Big 10. Much of the attraction for UNC's players is to play with and against ACC-caliber players on a regular basis.

Like the majority of ACC baseball programs, UNC targets the very best high school players in the country; and they want to test themselves against the best once they're in college. A Big 10 affiliation would alter that dimension appreciably; enough so that it would diminish the program's attraction for a material percentage of its current recruiting base.

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I certainly value your opinion, rc, and you would know exactly how much our affiliation with a strong baseball league would affect our recruiting. I agree 100% with you, sir.

PS. Give Woody my best.

Posted: 11/29/2012 7:08 PM

RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join 


Consider it done, rev!

Many thanks to you and Gforheels, both!

Gforheels: I admit that the phrase I chose might have been a bit conservative.

;-)

Posted: 11/29/2012 7:58 PM

Georgia Tech to Big Ten? 


Greg Swaim Show ‏@GSwaim
Word from calls today is that another current #ACC team will announce a move with 7-10 days to the #B1G. This would be a HUGE domino.

Greg Swaim Show ‏@GSwaim
While none came right out, had all the earmarks of #GT. Could see either #UVa or #UNC as the other for 16.


www.eersauthority.com/expansio...2-makes-a-push/

"The Big 10 will expand to 16 and Georgia Tech is likely #15.

"The Techies may not admit it but they have money problems too, not as severe as Maryland’s but real just the same. Georgia Tech ranked 11th in the ACC for the year ending 2010 (the latest report available) in athletic department profit with a paltry $138,659.

"Considering the finances, Georgia Tech would be foolish not to accept the Big 10’s offer. The money is better and the academics are comparable, if not more favorable for GT, than that of the ACC.

"Sources at Ohio State University tell me that GT has already applied to the Big 10 and received an offer. If that’s true I would expect GT to decide shortly after the ACC championship game."

Posted: 11/29/2012 8:03 PM

Re: Georgia Tech to Big Ten? 


wow.

I bet UVa would be #16.

This would also virtually cement UNC & VaTech to the SEC.

Posted: 11/29/2012 8:04 PM

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--- rock06 wrote:

wow.

I bet UVa would be #16.

This would also virtually cement UNC & VaTech to the SEC.

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Repeat after me: UNC and UVa will stay or go together.

Posted: 11/29/2012 8:06 PM

RE: Georgia Tech to Big Ten? 


Y'all need to get out while you can. It's clearly a race to the lifeboats now.

Posted: 11/29/2012 8:07 PM

Re: Georgia Tech to Big Ten? 


Why do some of you guys keep posting rumors from WVU sites? My little sister has been more credible when it comes to conference realignment than those guys.

Posted: 11/29/2012 8:08 PM

Re: Georgia Tech to Big Ten? 


Consider the source. eersauthority has been wrong on this subject before, and pretty recently, too.

Posted: 11/29/2012 8:09 PM

RE: Georgia Tech to Big Ten? 


What is the Greg Swaim Show anyway???

Posted: 11/29/2012 8:09 PM

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--- ShadowSpawne wrote:


Repeat after me: UNC and UVa will stay or go together.

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God, I hope this is true.


If GT goes to Big Ten as #15, I would think Boston College is the top choice for #16 if UNC and UVa stick together. Notre Dame has spurned the Big Ten. The Big Ten has spurned Pitt and never shown interest in Syracuse. Duke football sucks. Wake sports suck. Va Tech/NC State/Clemson/FSU/Miami/Louisville academics are not up to par.

Posted: 11/29/2012 8:11 PM

Re: Georgia Tech to Big Ten? 





wouldn't doubt it, & would be totally fine with it

I just think UVa & UNC could have different visions of the future of their respective institutions

at the end of the day universities will end up doing what they feel is best for their institutions not depending on what other's want or do

OU tried to split from Texas to head to the PAC last year, A&M left the conference with Texas, Baylor & Texas Tech, Missouri split from Kansas.

I have no doubts UNC & UVa have forged a relationship through the years but no doubt their visions will be executed independently. As they should quite frankly.



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--- rock06 wrote:

wow.

I bet UVa would be #16.

This would also virtually cement UNC & VaTech to the SEC.

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Repeat after me: UNC and UVa will stay or go together.

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Posted: 11/29/2012 8:12 PM

RE: Georgia Tech to Big Ten? 




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--- BamainCarolina wrote:

What is the Greg Swaim Show anyway???

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College sports radio show broadcasted out of the Midwest. He is a USBWA member, though that doesn't mean you should consider him an oracle. Still just rumors.
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