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Posted: 11/26/2012 3:45 PM
RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join
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--- GunslingerHeel wrote:
Let's just say there are a lot of angles to this whole thing and I sure hope someone with some sense is doing an incredible job of sorting it all out prior to any moves.
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We do, his name is Bubba. ( That should drive the Big-10 folks nuts )
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Posted: 11/26/2012 4:25 PM
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Ok to the Heels fans that talk about culture. What is it, deep fried food? the confederacy? What is this "southern" culture. Hell (we northerners believe in that too!) I cant get a mint julep in TN (I live in Memphis)people have never heard of it...seriously???????
I'm sure the academica part of the university sees itself closer to pick a B10 institution than say.....LSU or Auburn or UT, or South Carolina, ect ect.....The only universities in the SEC worth a crap are Florida, Georgia, Vandy and A&M
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I know when I see an Ohio plate on a car it is a pretty good sign there is a nut behind the wheel and I am not talking buckeye.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 7:44 PM
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--- buckeye4573 wrote:
Ok to the Heels fans that talk about culture. What is it, deep fried food? the confederacy? What is this "southern" culture. Hell (we northerners believe in that too!) I cant get a mint julep in TN (I live in Memphis)people have never heard of it...seriously???????
I'm sure the academica part of the university sees itself closer to pick a B10 institution than say.....LSU or Auburn or UT, or South Carolina, ect ect.....The only universities in the SEC worth a crap are Florida, Georgia, Vandy and A&M
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I know when I see an Ohio plate on a car it is a pretty good sign there is a nut behind the wheel and I am not talking buckeye.
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It's cool, I'll take is a compliment....I love to ask questions noone else does, challenge the status quo and the conventional wisdom, ect ect
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Posted: 11/26/2012 7:52 PM
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OMG, if UNC leaves the ACC for the B1G I am done. I will not sit and watch Northwestern, Iowa and Rutgers. I won't do it. It would also destroy the outstanding baseball program Mike Fox has built at UNC. No kid is going to want to play a B1G baseball schedule. Some may not care about that, but there are others who do.
The ONLY way for UNC to go is to the SEC. Better football than the B1G, outside of Kentucky they would dominate basketball, and the Heels would also be joining the best baseball conference in the country as well. You want to see Kenan get filled up, bring LSU, Alabama, Florida, Georgia or South Cack in and it would be full. Bring in Northwestern, Illinois and Iowa and you might as well schedule Western Carolina and expect the usual 20,000 people.
SEC>>>>>>>>>>>> ;>>>>>>>B1G
Last edited 11/26/2012 7:54 PM by Chapel Heel
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Posted: 11/26/2012 8:12 PM
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OMG, if UNC leaves the ACC for the B1G I am done. I will not sit and watch Northwestern, Iowa and Rutgers. I won't do it. It would also destroy the outstanding baseball program Mike Fox has built at UNC. No kid is going to want to play a B1G baseball schedule. Some may not care about that, but there are others who do.
The ONLY way for UNC to go is to the SEC. Better football than the B1G, outside of Kentucky they would dominate basketball, and the Heels would also be joining the best baseball conference in the country as well. You want to see Kenan get filled up, bring LSU, Alabama, Florida, Georgia or South Cack in and it would be full. Bring in Northwestern, Illinois and Iowa and you might as well schedule Western Carolina and expect the usual 20,000 people.
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I'm with you.
No to B1G.
SEC is a much better fit for our sports programs (Baseball, Basketball, & Football).
However, if UNC does join, Bubba better get buy in from the SEC to promote/support the 'Olympic' sports (soccer, field hockey, tennis, lacrosse, etc)more than they currently do. Would be a waste to see our programs suffer.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 8:16 PM
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I realize this won't matter to most folks, but I don't think the SEC has Men's Soccer or Lacrosse.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 8:18 PM
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--- buckeye4573 wrote:
Ok to the Heels fans that talk about culture. What is it, deep fried food? the confederacy? What is this "southern" culture. Hell (we northerners believe in that too!) I cant get a mint julep in TN (I live in Memphis)people have never heard of it...seriously???????
I'm sure the academica part of the university sees itself closer to pick a B10 institution than say.....LSU or Auburn or UT, or South Carolina, ect ect.....The only universities in the SEC worth a crap are Florida, Georgia, Vandy and A&M
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buckeye, the culture you seek a description of cannot be easily summarised. Its a kinship with the other Southern states that was forged in the fire of a war fought a century and half ago. Its a shared set of folkways and mores. Its a way of doing things, and, interacting with people. Its all that, and, much, much more.
The Reverend could probably do more justice to your inquiry than I did. Just thought I'd put my .02 worth in. :)
About the academic side, yes, I am certain our powers that be see much more common ground with B10 schools. But, as I have said before, its not just an academic fit that matters. The cultural side of it matters, too. Whether or not they weight it at all, I have no idea.
I respect the Big 10 as a league where academics matter as much as they do in the ACC. I respect the sporting history of the league as well. But, if push comes to shove, it is my own personal opinion that I'd rather compete with other schools where the people supporting it remind me of myself.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 8:21 PM
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Ok to the Heels fans that talk about culture. What is it, deep fried food? the confederacy? What is this "southern" culture. Hell (we northerners believe in that too!) I cant get a mint julep in TN (I live in Memphis)people have never heard of it...seriously???????
I'm sure the academica part of the university sees itself closer to pick a B10 institution than say.....LSU or Auburn or UT, or South Carolina, ect ect.....The only universities in the SEC worth a crap are Florida, Georgia, Vandy and A&M
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buckeye, the culture you seek a description of cannot be easily summarised. Its a kinship with the other Southern states that was forged in the fire of a war fought a century and half ago. Its a shared set of folkways and mores. Its a way of doing things, and, interacting with people. Its all that, and, much, much more.
The Reverend could probably do more justice to your inquiry than I did. Just thought I'd put my .02 worth in. :)
About the academic side, yes, I am certain our powers that be see much more common ground with B10 schools. But, as I have said before, its not just an academic fit that matters. The cultural side of it matters, too. Whether or not they weight it at all, I have no idea.
I respect the Big 10 as a league where academics matter as much as they do in the ACC. I respect the sporting history of the league as well. But, if push comes to shove, it is my own personal opinion that I'd rather compete with other schools where the people supporting it remind me of myself.
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Much of it is unspoken, and if you have to ask, you don't get it.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 8:22 PM
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Imagine these two potential schedules:
Home - UGA, FLA, USuCk, Mizzou, Kentucky, Bama/Auburn/A&M
Road - Vandy, UTenn
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Home - NW, Illinois, Wiscy, Indiana
Road - PSU, OSU, Minnesota
Uhh, no brainer.
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OMG, if UNC leaves the ACC for the B1G I am done. I will not sit and watch Northwestern, Iowa and Rutgers. I won't do it. It would also destroy the outstanding baseball program Mike Fox has built at UNC. No kid is going to want to play a B1G baseball schedule. Some may not care about that, but there are others who do.
The ONLY way for UNC to go is to the SEC. Better football than the B1G, outside of Kentucky they would dominate basketball, and the Heels would also be joining the best baseball conference in the country as well. You want to see Kenan get filled up, bring LSU, Alabama, Florida, Georgia or South Cack in and it would be full. Bring in Northwestern, Illinois and Iowa and you might as well schedule Western Carolina and expect the usual 20,000 people.
SEC>>>>>>>>>>>&am p;gt ;>>>>>>>B1G
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Posted: 11/26/2012 8:29 PM
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--- NCtaxguy wrote:
Imagine these two potential schedules:
Home - UGA, FLA, USuCk, Mizzou, Kentucky, Bama/Auburn/A&M
Road - Vandy, UTenn
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Home - NW, Illinois, Wiscy, Indiana
Road - PSU, OSU, Minnesota
Uhh, no brainer.
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--- Chapel Heel wrote:
OMG, if UNC leaves the ACC for the B1G I am done. I will not sit and watch Northwestern, Iowa and Rutgers. I won't do it. It would also destroy the outstanding baseball program Mike Fox has built at UNC. No kid is going to want to play a B1G baseball schedule. Some may not care about that, but there are others who do.
The ONLY way for UNC to go is to the SEC. Better football than the B1G, outside of Kentucky they would dominate basketball, and the Heels would also be joining the best baseball conference in the country as well. You want to see Kenan get filled up, bring LSU, Alabama, Florida, Georgia or South Cack in and it would be full. Bring in Northwestern, Illinois and Iowa and you might as well schedule Western Carolina and expect the usual 20,000 people.
SEC>>>>>>>>>>>&am p;am p;gt ;>>>>>>>B1G
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Heck to the naw
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Posted: 11/26/2012 8:33 PM
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Ok to the Heels fans that talk about culture. What is it, deep fried food? the confederacy? What is this "southern" culture. Hell (we northerners believe in that too!) I cant get a mint julep in TN (I live in Memphis)people have never heard of it...seriously???????
I'm sure the academica part of the university sees itself closer to pick a B10 institution than say.....LSU or Auburn or UT, or South Carolina, ect ect.....The only universities in the SEC worth a crap are Florida, Georgia, Vandy and A&M
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buckeye, the culture you seek a description of cannot be easily summarised. Its a kinship with the other Southern states that was forged in the fire of a war fought a century and half ago. Its a shared set of folkways and mores. Its a way of doing things, and, interacting with people. Its all that, and, much, much more.
The Reverend could probably do more justice to your inquiry than I did. Just thought I'd put my .02 worth in. :)
About the academic side, yes, I am certain our powers that be see much more common ground with B10 schools. But, as I have said before, its not just an academic fit that matters. The cultural side of it matters, too. Whether or not they weight it at all, I have no idea.
I respect the Big 10 as a league where academics matter as much as they do in the ACC. I respect the sporting history of the league as well. But, if push comes to shove, it is my own personal opinion that I'd rather compete with other schools where the people supporting it remind me of myself.
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Rev, you summed up in a few words what I should have said. Many thanks, good sir. :)
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Posted: 11/26/2012 9:16 PM
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I realize this won't matter to most folks, but I don't think the SEC has Men's Soccer or Lacrosse.
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Ironic. If we change conferences, we may not have them and if we don't go, we may not have enough $ to fund them.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 9:39 PM
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It's been stated UNC would fit better in the Big10 for academics. I don't really agree. It's been written the CIC brings in big research money... UNC seems to be doing ok with that right now.
I grew up in North Carolina, and have lived here since birth. I dreamed of going to UNC and playing basketball, but I wasn't very good. I then settled for graduating from UNC. Lucky for me, it happened. Since then I've supported UNC athletics and academics. I've given money and gone to plenty of games. I love football. I want UNC to be good in football.
If UNC is forced to swith conferences, and joins the Big10... I'd have to consider kind of giving up. I'd reconsider my academic donations because I don't think the reasons they'd give for Big10 membership really benefit the people of North Carolina. As for athletics... I just wouldn't be excited to go see Indiana football, etc.. It would just be a tough choice.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 11:18 PM
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--- buckeye4573 wrote:
Ok to the Heels fans that talk about culture. What is it, deep fried food? the confederacy? What is this "southern" culture. Hell (we northerners believe in that too!) I cant get a mint julep in TN (I live in Memphis)people have never heard of it...seriously???????
I'm sure the academica part of the university sees itself closer to pick a B10 institution than say.....LSU or Auburn or UT, or South Carolina, ect ect.....The only universities in the SEC worth a crap are Florida, Georgia, Vandy and A&M
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buckeye, the culture you seek a description of cannot be easily summarised. Its a kinship with the other Southern states that was forged in the fire of a war fought a century and half ago. Its a shared set of folkways and mores. Its a way of doing things, and, interacting with people. Its all that, and, much, much more.
The Reverend could probably do more justice to your inquiry than I did. Just thought I'd put my .02 worth in. :)
About the academic side, yes, I am certain our powers that be see much more common ground with B10 schools. But, as I have said before, its not just an academic fit that matters. The cultural side of it matters, too. Whether or not they weight it at all, I have no idea.
I respect the Big 10 as a league where academics matter as much as they do in the ACC. I respect the sporting history of the league as well. But, if push comes to shove, it is my own personal opinion that I'd rather compete with other schools where the people supporting it remind me of myself.
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Much of it is unspoken, and if you have to ask, you don't get it.
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Well, I've always considered myself a good southerner, but i'm not buying this kinship of the confederacy stuff. There's a reason much of that is unspoken, I think.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:04 AM
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--- buckeye4573 wrote:
Ok to the Heels fans that talk about culture. What is it, deep fried food? the confederacy? What is this "southern" culture. Hell (we northerners believe in that too!) I cant get a mint julep in TN (I live in Memphis)people have never heard of it...seriously???????
I'm sure the academica part of the university sees itself closer to pick a B10 institution than say.....LSU or Auburn or UT, or South Carolina, ect ect.....The only universities in the SEC worth a crap are Florida, Georgia, Vandy and A&M
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buckeye, the culture you seek a description of cannot be easily summarised. Its a kinship with the other Southern states that was forged in the fire of a war fought a century and half ago. Its a shared set of folkways and mores. Its a way of doing things, and, interacting with people. Its all that, and, much, much more.
The Reverend could probably do more justice to your inquiry than I did. Just thought I'd put my .02 worth in. :)
About the academic side, yes, I am certain our powers that be see much more common ground with B10 schools. But, as I have said before, its not just an academic fit that matters. The cultural side of it matters, too. Whether or not they weight it at all, I have no idea.
I respect the Big 10 as a league where academics matter as much as they do in the ACC. I respect the sporting history of the league as well. But, if push comes to shove, it is my own personal opinion that I'd rather compete with other schools where the people supporting it remind me of myself.
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Have to disagree with this. I'm an alum and think there is a better cultural fit with the Big Ten than the SEC. I'd much prefer to play an SEC football schedule than a Big Ten schedule, but Carolina is not a fit for the SEC in academics and the overall feel of the schools. Without naming specific schools, we might have a stronger overlap with the cuisine of the SEC, but I'd say the campus has more similarities to Ann Arbor than to any SEC school -- academics, strong undergraduate and graduate programs, recognized as a public Ivy, located in a region with the highest concentration of Ph.D.s per capita in the country (cf Raleigh to Fayetteville, Arkansas??), reasonably progressive feel, etc.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:09 AM
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I'm with a lot of you guys. I think North Carolina is a great school and program, but they, even more than Rutgers and Maryland, really don't belong in the Big Ten and while I wish you guys the best, I hope it's in the ACC. Unfortunately, what's best for fans and history have little to do with most of these moves. That said, I think North Carolina will stick to the ACC anyway.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:57 AM
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It would be disappointing, but I'd never ever ever consider "giving up" - I've never understood the fans who clain "If UNC does "this".....I'm done" mentality
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+1
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--- 1998Heel wrote:
It's been stated UNC would fit better in the Big10 for academics. I don't really agree. It's been written the CIC brings in big research money... UNC seems to be doing ok with that right now.
I grew up in North Carolina, and have lived here since birth. I dreamed of going to UNC and playing basketball, but I wasn't very good. I then settled for graduating from UNC. Lucky for me, it happened. Since then I've supported UNC athletics and academics. I've given money and gone to plenty of games. I love football. I want UNC to be good in football.
If UNC is forced to swith conferences, and joins the Big10... I'd have to consider kind of giving up. I'd reconsider my academic donations because I don't think the reasons they'd give for Big10 membership really benefit the people of North Carolina. As for athletics... I just wouldn't be excited to go see Indiana football, etc.. It would just be a tough choice.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 1:24 AM
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I knew they didn't sponsor lacrosse. But I was shocked that they don't sponsor men's soccer. Kentucky and South Carolina compete in Conference USA, so I guess if we went with Virginia we could start and SEC league or do the same.
No women's field hockey either, if I'm looking at it right.
These may be the tipping point in the decision to choose the B1G.
Ick.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 1:56 AM
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I think they need four teams to sponsor a sport, if I remember correctly.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 9:34 AM
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I realize this won't matter to most folks, but I don't think the SEC has Men's Soccer or Lacrosse.
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Of the sports that UNC fields, it doesn't appear that the SEC offers Men's Lacrosse, Soccer, & Wrestling. On the women's side, they don't appear to sponsor Field Hockey, Lacrosse, or Rowing.
I don't know that there is an NCAA minimum number of teams to sponsor a Lacrosse conference. The NCAA requires a minimum of (6) teams to be an "AQ" conference, but the ACC has played with four, for the most part. Losing MD while adding Pitt, Syracuse, & ND will leave them at 6 pending any further changes.
There are about 61 Division 1 Lacrosse teams. Three current Big Ten schools sponsor men's teams (Michigan, OSU, & PSU). Add Northwestern to that list on the women's side. The additions of Maryland & Rutgers will increase that to (5) men's & (6)women's squads.
I don't see where any current SEC member fields a Lacrosse team.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 9:41 AM
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--- buckeye4573 wrote:
Ok to the Heels fans that talk about culture. What is it, deep fried food? the confederacy? What is this "southern" culture. Hell (we northerners believe in that too!) I cant get a mint julep in TN (I live in Memphis)people have never heard of it...seriously???????
I'm sure the academica part of the university sees itself closer to pick a B10 institution than say.....LSU or Auburn or UT, or South Carolina, ect ect.....The only universities in the SEC worth a crap are Florida, Georgia, Vandy and A&M
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buckeye, the culture you seek a description of cannot be easily summarised. Its a kinship with the other Southern states that was forged in the fire of a war fought a century and half ago. Its a shared set of folkways and mores. Its a way of doing things, and, interacting with people. Its all that, and, much, much more.
The Reverend could probably do more justice to your inquiry than I did. Just thought I'd put my .02 worth in. :)
About the academic side, yes, I am certain our powers that be see much more common ground with B10 schools. But, as I have said before, its not just an academic fit that matters. The cultural side of it matters, too. Whether or not they weight it at all, I have no idea.
I respect the Big 10 as a league where academics matter as much as they do in the ACC. I respect the sporting history of the league as well. But, if push comes to shove, it is my own personal opinion that I'd rather compete with other schools where the people supporting it remind me of myself.
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Much of it is unspoken, and if you have to ask, you don't get it.
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Well, I've always considered myself a good southerner, but i'm not buying this kinship of the confederacy stuff. There's a reason much of that is unspoken, I think.
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I am the direct descendant of German-American yeoman farmers who tilled the rocky, red soils of Catawba and Alexander Counties with their own hands, and were both too poor to own slaves and theologically too connected to John Wesley's teachings to consider it, who died under the St. Andrew's Cross of the 49th NC while defending their state and nation against an outside invader, so yes, I feel a sense of kinship with them.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 9:49 AM
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^^^^^^^
the Bethel Regiment always made certain to line up behind the 49th NC ..... which explains why my great grandaddy survived the war to become my great grandaddy ......
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Posted: 11/27/2012 9:54 AM
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Not to nitpick, but Pitt doesn't have lacrosse. If the Maryland replacement does not have men's lacrosse (Louisville does not, UConn does), the ACC is back at 5 with Notre Dame and Cuse. It doesn't matter if they are AQ, they will all get bids to the tournament in most years anyway.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 9:59 AM
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AMEN,therabidrey
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--- buckeye4573 wrote:
Ok to the Heels fans that talk about culture. What is it, deep fried food? the confederacy? What is this "southern" culture. Hell (we northerners believe in that too!) I cant get a mint julep in TN (I live in Memphis)people have never heard of it...seriously???????
I'm sure the academica part of the university sees itself closer to pick a B10 institution than say.....LSU or Auburn or UT, or South Carolina, ect ect.....The only universities in the SEC worth a crap are Florida, Georgia, Vandy and A&M
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buckeye, the culture you seek a description of cannot be easily summarised. Its a kinship with the other Southern states that was forged in the fire of a war fought a century and half ago. Its a shared set of folkways and mores. Its a way of doing things, and, interacting with people. Its all that, and, much, much more.
The Reverend could probably do more justice to your inquiry than I did. Just thought I'd put my .02 worth in. :)
About the academic side, yes, I am certain our powers that be see much more common ground with B10 schools. But, as I have said before, its not just an academic fit that matters. The cultural side of it matters, too. Whether or not they weight it at all, I have no idea.
I respect the Big 10 as a league where academics matter as much as they do in the ACC. I respect the sporting history of the league as well. But, if push comes to shove, it is my own personal opinion that I'd rather compete with other schools where the people supporting it remind me of myself.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:03 AM
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Your divisions look pretty spot on, but leagues formed/re-formed of late try to separate schools in same state so the state is rep in both divisions (TV), then set them up as cross div rivalry game.
So, instead of getting Purdue and Ind, would likely get one of them and Mich State, NW, or Illinois.
UNC, UVA, MD, Rut, PSU, OSU, PUR, NW
Ind, Ill, MI, MSU, Wisc, Minn, Neb, Iowa
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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:19 AM
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I am more proud of my last name than from being from my home town, but I'm more proud of my home town than from being a North Carolinian. And I love that I'm a North Carolinian.
I am more proud of being a North Carolinian than a Southerner, but I'm more proud of being a Southerner than being an American. And I thank God that I am an American.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:32 AM
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Apparently there are reports from Clemson's 247 Sports forums that UVA is having a Board of Visitors meeting, possibly to vote on move to Big Ten. You have to register to read, but that's how people are describing it in tweeting the link.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:44 AM
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link?
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Apparently there are reports from Clemson's 247 Sports forums that UVA is having a Board of Visitors meeting, possibly to vote on move to Big Ten. You have to register to read, but that's how people are describing it in tweeting the link.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:49 AM
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Agree 100%. UNC is not culturally right for B1G membership. I hope they choose to stay in the ACC or go to the SEC.
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I'm with a lot of you guys. I think North Carolina is a great school and program, but they, even more than Rutgers and Maryland, really don't belong in the Big Ten and while I wish you guys the best, I hope it's in the ACC. Unfortunately, what's best for fans and history have little to do with most of these moves. That said, I think North Carolina will stick to the ACC anyway.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:58 AM
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Yeah, this is really pretty sad. UNC doesn't fit with the BIG and obviously the fans want nothing to do with it. I wonder if Notre Dame had acquiesced to join the BiG as the 12th member if all this chaos could have been avoided.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:00 AM
RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join
--------------------------------------------- --- kevinwilson wrote: link? --------------------------------------------- --- Carolina2009 wrote: Apparently there are reports from Clemson's 247 Sports forums that UVA is having a Board of Visitors meeting, possibly to vote on move to Big Ten. You have to register to read, but that's how people are describing it in tweeting the link. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- clemson.247sports.com/Board/22...gets-14390451/1I have a second (personal) source who also said that the Board of Visitors meeting is/will be taking place, but athletics are allegedly not on the agenda.
Last edited 11/27/2012 11:03 AM by Carolina2009
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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:46 AM
RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join
Update: At the meeting, UVA apparently said there are no discussions ongoing with the B1G. Take that FWIW.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:53 AM
RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join
So that means discussions are going on. Thanks.
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--- Carolina2009 wrote:
Update: At the meeting, UVA apparently said there are no discussions ongoing with the B1G. Take that FWIW.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:34 PM
Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join
It is done. B10.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:37 PM
Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join
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--- willis wrote:
It is done. B10.
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Whatchoo talkin bout?
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:40 PM
Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join
Hope not. Better be SEC.
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--- willis wrote:
It is done. B10.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:45 PM
Re: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join
of course we all want the SEC from a fan's perspective. I'd rather travel to Gainesville, Athens, Knoxville and Columbia, etc than West Lafayette, NJ and Iowa City. What I am telling you is that the academics are winning against Bubba. We lose.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:49 PM
RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join
I have a question.
If the academic money is so much more than the athletic money then why is the best academic conf in the nation behind the ivy league (the ACC) falling apart and why aren't SEC and Big 10 school standing in line to get into the ACC?
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:57 PM
RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join
individually, academic monies are far more, but for sports, the money - with few exceptions (ND, maybe Texas) involves a conference footprint. Say what you want - Bama football does not survive alone.
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--- kevinwilson wrote:
I have a question.
If the academic money is so much more than the athletic money then why is the best academic conf in the nation behind the ivy league (the ACC) falling apart and why aren't SEC and Big 10 school standing in line to get into the ACC?
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:57 PM
RE: Big10 Has Contacted UNC and UVA to Join
how did that answer my question?
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--- HeelGrad85 wrote:
individually, academic monies are far more, but for sports, the money - with few exceptions (ND, maybe Texas) involves a conference footprint. Say what you want - Bama football does not survive alone.
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--- kevinwilson wrote:
I have a question.
If the academic money is so much more than the athletic money then why is the best academic conf in the nation behind the ivy league (the ACC) falling apart and why aren't SEC and Big 10 school standing in line to get into the ACC?
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