Why Jerry Jones Isn’t Dan Snyder
By Drew Magary, NBC DFW

I don’t mean to take away from the Cowboys mini-revival going on right now. But my goodness, do you see what’s going on in Washington right now? That team is a train wreck. A giant, twisted, flaming train wreck, with smoke billowing miles up into the sky. You can see the wreckage from the top of JerryWorld, it’s such a disaster. The reports get worse by the hour. Fans are irate. Signs have been banned. The team seems to have six different mouthpieces, all of whom are lying and in complete denial simultaneously. There will be pitchforks and torches. Oh, will there be pitchforks and torches.

It’s quite the mirror image from Valley Ranch, which has been the picture of tranquility over the past week or so. In fact, from way back in the offseason, Jerry Jones has taken great pains to stress stability within the Cowboys organization. Most of the controversy swirling around the Cowboys has stemmed from external frustration over the team’s early performances. But the team itself has remained relatively calm and resolute.

There are a handful of owners in the NFL who will easily be termed as “meddling.” At the top of the list, naturally, are the Double J, Al Davis, and Danny Snyder. But while you may have your issues with Jerry Jones, I think we can all agree that, as meddling owners go, he is far and away superior to Snyder. . . .

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MikeLowery wrote:

"JJ can fall back on true football credentials."

However, he never stated what those credentials were.

JJ played college football.

The difference is Jones hired his college buddy Johnson and believes heavily in plastic .... surgery.

Jones's practical experience tends to get lost in his executive hubris.

No need to compare types of trash--both management styles suck mightily.

I would much rather have Snyder than Jerry Jones. At least Snyder hired someone with legimitate football experience (as lousy as he may be) in the front office. Jones as GM is ridiculous, and the world saw him with playsheets during the Giants game.

amudgarden wrote:

 

MikeLowery wrote:

"JJ can fall back on true football credentials."

However, he never stated what those credentials were.

 

JJ played college football.

Whooop-dee-doo-doo. That gave him the street cred to fire Tom Landry and let the press be the ones to tell Tom.

Monkster wrote:

 

amudgarden wrote:

 

MikeLowery wrote:

"JJ can fall back on true football credentials."

However, he never stated what those credentials were.

 

JJ played college football.

Whooop-dee-doo-doo. That gave him the street cred to fire Tom Landry and let the press be the ones to tell Tom.

No one said it did.  But, compared to Snyder, it gives Jones better football credentials.

You've obviously never been to Arkansas. Harold Ford played football too.

amudgarden wrote:

 

Monkster wrote:

 

amudgarden wrote:

 

MikeLowery wrote:

"JJ can fall back on true football credentials."

However, he never stated what those credentials were.

 

JJ played college football.

Whooop-dee-doo-doo. That gave him the street cred to fire Tom Landry and let the press be the ones to tell Tom.

 

No one said it did.  But, compared to Snyder, it gives Jones better football credentials.

RUsknFan wrote:

I would much rather have Snyder than Jerry Jones. At least Snyder hired someone with legimitate football experience (as lousy as he may be) in the front office. Jones as GM is ridiculous, and the world saw him with playsheets during the Giants game.

Jerry Jones 177-160, 3 Super Bowls

Dan Snyder 78-89, 0 Super Bowls

I know you're supposed to hate your rival, etc., but come on now.

The difference and similiarities between Jones and Snyder....  Jones is like bird poop and Snyder is like dog poop.

Both of 'em are messy and stink....  Just happens that dog poop smells worse than bird poop.  Nevertheless, both of 'em still are poop. 

Let's be fair and truthful.

Jones not only played college football, he played at a very high level -- an all-conference offensive lineman on a National Championship team.

I think it's foolish for Jones to act as GM. And I think Jones, too, doesn't know what he doesn't know (I know, I know -- I'm starting to overuse that phrase), but what he does know is a helluva lot more than Dan Snyder.

Also consider that Jones actually played the game (albeit in the early-to-mid '60s), and that he learned about operations from Jimmy Johnson. Snyder, on the other hand, has no football experience -- playing, coaching, anything -- and has learned from Vinnie Cerrato. Notice any disparity?

Flat out, I don't want either fraud as the owner of my team.

I played high school football can I be a GM?

Neither are qualified to be GM. The thing about is, Jones brought in Parcells and let him run the show for 4 seasons. They had great drafts which netted most of their star players now - Ware, Ratliff, Austin, Crayton, Barber etc. All Snyder has to do is relinquish power for a few years, and the team will reap the benefits for years.

How he cannot see that is beyond me.

Jones by himself does stupid stuff like trade multiple picks for Joey Galloway or Roy Williams.

NewAgeSkins wrote: Neither are qualified to be GM. The thing about is, Jones brought in Parcells and let him run the show for 4 seasons. They had great drafts which netted most of their star players now - Ware, Ratliff, Austin, Crayton, Barber etc. All Snyder has to do is relinquish power for a few years, and the team will reap the benefits for years.

How he cannot see that is beyond me.

Bingo!

You need to be straight to though. It's perfectly legit to make your argument but it's essential that you add to it the main reason Jones is indicted as an owner, beyond the traditional landry treatment angle. He had in place a FO that could win him at least 2 and possibly three more super bowls after repeating in january '94, and he flushed it down the toilet for the same exact reason Snyder flushed Schotty. He just wasn't having enough fun. They are both miserable failures, and colossal idiots, that's probably why they're kind of friendly. They define hubris, and because of that their fans suffer terribly, dallas with "might have been's" and a present that never happens, redskins fans w/eternal FO idiocy in perpetuity. We're both screwed, but at least your guy is kinda old. Ours is young and spry, and cracking his knuckles at the thought of the manifold ways he can flush this team thorouly into the biggest septic tank in the northeast.

P.S.-Whats with the dumbarse gloss, "Double J," for lack of a better word, that's freaking retarded and just stupid. Maybe the Joker from Bat Man, but Double J? Seriously? Feel free to call our idiot owner the penguin or some other diminutive rip, i loathe the guy and will never defend him, he deserves some gloss beyond the obvious little napolean, and mighty chiuahaha.

ArmyCowboy wrote:

 

RUsknFan wrote:

I would much rather have Snyder than Jerry Jones. At least Snyder hired someone with legimitate football experience (as lousy as he may be) in the front office. Jones as GM is ridiculous, and the world saw him with playsheets during the Giants game.

Jerry Jones 177-160, 3 Super Bowls

 

Dan Snyder 78-89, 0 Super Bowls

 

I know you're supposed to hate your rival, etc., but come on now.

aGURU wrote:

 

Flat out, I don't want either fraud as the owner of my team.

 

 

That is the part that resonates.

If Jerry had built on what what established, that would be one thing. Fact remains that since Snyder's been in DC, the Skins have actually managed to win playoff games while the Cowboys haven't, so I'm hard-pressed to rank the result of Jerry's hands-on approach much higher then what's gone on here. Suffice it to say, neither one can exactly get boastful at this point.

They both suck as owners...END OF STORY

From my Cowboys fan perspective, Jerry is a great owner when it comes to promoting the team and making money and probably right around average as far as running the team.

He has 3 Super Bowl victories, even his critics have to deal with it.  People forget that when he hired Jimmy Johnson, all of the execs and owners around the league thought he was crazy to hire some college coach.  Then they thought they were certifiably nuts when they started to trade away draft pick after draft pick to gain more draft picks.  And when they went 1-15 in '89 and STILL kept Jimmy, everybody though that Jerry didn't know what he was doing.  How many coaches go 1-15 and come back the next season?  My guess is not very many.

Where Jerry really screwed up, besides the Jimmy firing, was how he handled the salary cap.  Ironically, before the salary cap Jerry built the Cowboys thru the draft.  People erroneously believe that the Cowboys 'bought' Super Bowls, but their team was by and far dominated by their great drafting, but people tend to get lost in the team obtaining Charles Haley and Deion (who didn't come along until '95).  But after the salary cap, Jones went in a different direction and went thru FA to build his squad and as we all know, that almost always backfires badly.  I still believe there would've been a downfall if Jimmy had stayed as Jimmy was very mediocre to average in Miami and Dallas lost a ton of players to FA and injuries. 

Even with all of the issues and 'meddling', Dallas is still in the top half of win-loss records of teams in the NFL.  So it's hard for me to say that Jerry is a terrible owner, otherwise there's a lot of terrible owners in this league. 

Probably my biggest gripes against Jerry now are he still likes the limelight too much and likes his team in the limelight too much.  It's a well known fact in the DFW area that Jerry will always talk to his critics than his supporters, so that makes the media more prone to try and make for controversy.  The videoboard 'controversy' proves it as 0 out of 28 punts have hit the videoboard.  But according to the media this was going to be an occurance in every game.  Jerry could have nipped it in the bud, but instead let the controversy keep out there. 

That and it seems pretty apparent that some players get preferential treatment when they don't deserve it.  You really have to wonder why Miles Austin wasn't starting at the beginning of the season until it took injuries for Austin to get the start while Crayton pretty much stunk up the joint. 

But other than that, the drafts have been very good lately, even without Parcells (I think they've gotten better in some cases) and the FA pickups have been smart and good pickups.  Jerry got laughed at for signing Bigg Davis and he's been an exceptional guard for the team who hasn't missed a game.  Brooking has been excellent.  Same for Sensabaugh. 

I just don't see how Snyder can really compare to Jones as an owner.  He's never gone to an NFC Championship game much less a Super Bowl, his team is in disarray and now he seems to have alienated the fans.  And again, if Jerry is so bad of an owner, then why has Dallas' record been pretty solid over the past 10 years compared to the league?  What are the excuses of teams like the Bears, Jets, Bills, etc?

RICH

I hate to say it, but Agent orange makes some valid points!

Powerpro wrote:

I hate to say it, but Agent orange makes some valid points!

The real reason most Redskins fans hate Jerry Jones is that he's an arrogant SOB and he owns the Cowboys.

Of course that's understandable. I'd hate the guy too, if I were a Skins fan for just those reasons.

Funny, I hated Daniel Snyder when he bought the Redskins for pretty much the same reasons, yet I've really grown to like the guy these past couple of years.

JJ The Stud won 3 Lombardis...

and the JJ the Owner chased JJ off! 

MoiMe wrote:

If Jerry had built on what what established, that would be one thing. Fact remains that since Snyder's been in DC, the Skins have actually managed to win playoff games while the Cowboys haven't, so I'm hard-pressed to rank the result of Jerry's hands-on approach much higher then what's gone on here. Suffice it to say, neither one can exactly get boastful at this point.

If your going off of both owners playoff records, Jerry has 3 rigns as owner and GM. Has he made bone headed moves, heck yea. Has he made more then Synder, heck no. But I will agree that I would prefer an Owner like Bob Craft.

Yeah, Kraft is a class act.

Romo4MVP wrote:

 

MoiMe wrote:

If Jerry had built on what what established, that would be one thing. Fact remains that since Snyder's been in DC, the Skins have actually managed to win playoff games while the Cowboys haven't, so I'm hard-pressed to rank the result of Jerry's hands-on approach much higher then what's gone on here. Suffice it to say, neither one can exactly get boastful at this point.

If your going off of both owners playoff records, Jerry has 3 rigns as owner and GM. Has he made bone headed moves, heck yea. Has he made more then Synder, heck no. But I will agree that I would prefer an Owner like Bob Craft.

Jerry Jones is not a quality GM...but I respect him because he is willing to stand up and take the heat as the leader of the organization.   I think he undermines his coach in doing so, but I still respect him for letting the world know the buck stops with him.

The whole purpose of Cerrato's existence is deflect accountability away from Snyder.  How can you respect a man who wants to cook the meal but is afraid to take the heat?  And Snyder's whole system of trying to indimidate people and treating people like crap...it's truly pathetic.

aGURU wrote:

Let's be fair and truthful.

 

Jones not only played college football, he played at a very high level -- an all-conference offensive lineman on a National Championship team.

 

I think it's foolish for Jones to act as GM. And I think Jones, too, doesn't know what he doesn't know (I know, I know -- I'm starting to overuse that phrase), but what he does know is a helluva lot more than Dan Snyder.

 

Also consider that Jones actually played the game (albeit in the early-to-mid '60s), and that he learned about operations from Jimmy Johnson. Snyder, on the other hand, has no football experience -- playing, coaching, anything -- and has learned from Vinnie Cerrato. Notice any disparity?

 

Flat out, I don't want either fraud as the owner of my team.

 

 

This nailed it.  It is not that Jones is qualified because he played, it's only in comparison to Snyders ridiculous lack of knowledge about anything football related or team oriented.

amudgarden wrote:

 

MikeLowery wrote:

"JJ can fall back on true football credentials."

However, he never stated what those credentials were.

 

JJ played college football.

Monkster wrote:

 

amudgarden wrote:

 

MikeLowery wrote:

"JJ can fall back on true football credentials."

However, he never stated what those credentials were.

 

JJ played college football.

Whooop-dee-doo-doo. That gave him the street cred to fire Tom Landry and let the press be the ones to tell Tom.

That is incorrect.

As Jones was buying the team he expressed to the owner at the time, Bum Bright, that he would be making a change at the head coach position.

Tex Schramm leaked this to Landry and called him when the papers were being signed.

Tom Landry cleared out his office went to Austin where he livedqwithout meeting Jones.

Jones flew to Austin and met with Landry about the issue. He could have phoned it in.

I have many issues with Jones and his insistence in being the GM.

But not once has Jerry ever not stood up to the task of telling someone to their face what his intentions are.

I suspect Snyder is the same way.

TwoDeep3 wrote:

 

Monkster wrote:

 

amudgarden wrote:

 

MikeLowery wrote:

"JJ can fall back on true football credentials."

However, he never stated what those credentials were.

 

JJ played college football.

Whooop-dee-doo-doo. That gave him the street cred to fire Tom Landry and let the press be the ones to tell Tom.

That is incorrect.

 

As Jones was buying the team he expressed to the owner at the time, Bum Bright, that he would be making a change at the head coach position.

 

Tex Schramm leaked this to Landry and called him when the papers were being signed.

 

Tom Landry cleared out his office went to Austin where he livedqwithout meeting Jones.

 

Jones flew to Austin and met with Landry about the issue. He could have phoned it in.

 

I have many issues with Jones and his insistence in being the GM.

 

But not once has Jerry ever not stood up to the task of telling someone to their face what his intentions are.

 

I suspect Snyder is the same way.

Mr. Jones should not have expressed his "feelings" to Mr Bright. What was the point? Once he executed his agreement with Mr. Bright  he  could have told Mr. Landry directly thereby avoiding a messy situation.  From what I remember the impending Landry firing was leaked to many people not just Mr. Bright. You might want to also speak with TO about Jones being a stand up guy.

Funny 2D3, Tom Landry Jr. was a friend of mine in law school and we spent a summer together at the London School of Econmics. His take was quite a bit different from yours.

mojomagicsback wrote:

 

TwoDeep3 wrote:

 

Monkster wrote:

 

amudgarden wrote:

 

MikeLowery wrote:

"JJ can fall back on true football credentials."

However, he never stated what those credentials were.

 

JJ played college football.

Whooop-dee-doo-doo. That gave him the street cred to fire Tom Landry and let the press be the ones to tell Tom.

That is incorrect.

 

As Jones was buying the team he expressed to the owner at the time, Bum Bright, that he would be making a change at the head coach position.

 

Tex Schramm leaked this to Landry and called him when the papers were being signed.

 

Tom Landry cleared out his office went to Austin where he livedqwithout meeting Jones.

 

Jones flew to Austin and met with Landry about the issue. He could have phoned it in.

 

I have many issues with Jones and his insistence in being the GM.

 

But not once has Jerry ever not stood up to the task of telling someone to their face what his intentions are.

 

I suspect Snyder is the same way.

Mr. Jones should not have expressed his "feelings" to Mr Bright. What was the point? Once he executed his agreement with Mr. Bright  he  could have told Mr. Landry directly thereby avoiding a messy situation.  From what I remember the impending Landry firing was leaked to many people not just Mr. Bright. You might want to also speak with TO about Jones being a stand up guy.

Yeah, he only pretty much knew his team was blatantly cheating, tried to help cover it up, then did what he could to cast Matt Walsh as an unsavory character, when Walsh was the only guy telling the truth.  I prefer my class acts to not embarrass the game and cast doubt on the integrity of the game.  I don't like Snyder and I do think he's a poor owner, but he's never hurt the integrity of the game.

Jim Irsay is a class act.  Rooney is a class act.  I could do without Kraft.

Monkster wrote:

Yeah, Kraft is a class act.

Romo4MVP wrote:

 

MoiMe wrote:

If Jerry had built on what what established, that would be one thing. Fact remains that since Snyder's been in DC, the Skins have actually managed to win playoff games while the Cowboys haven't, so I'm hard-pressed to rank the result of Jerry's hands-on approach much higher then what's gone on here. Suffice it to say, neither one can exactly get boastful at this point.

If your going off of both owners playoff records, Jerry has 3 rigns as owner and GM. Has he made bone headed moves, heck yea. Has he made more then Synder, heck no. But I will agree that I would prefer an Owner like Bob Craft.

 

Just to add to Jones' credentials, he:

- has a national championship ring from Arkansas; and

- 3 Super Bowl rings in Dallas.

As bad as he has been, he's had enough wisdom to hire two of the best NFL team builders - Jimmy Johnson and then Bill Parcells. Trust me, it pains me beyond belief to throw Jones a dog bone of any sort. I simply can't stand those cowgirls.

The team that Dallas has now - and that has been playoff worthy (if not playoff successful) for a half dozen or so years was largely built by Parcells.

Snyder hired Marty and brought Gibbs out of retirement, so he has shown some ability to find credible football people. However, the train wreck he now presides over - and being absent and aloof in France at the moment doesn't change things one bit - is his worst performance yet. And that is scary.

Surely he'll be left with no choice but to flush the whole thing - Cerrato included - and start over in the uncapped 2010 season. Why you might ask? Because we haven't even gotten to Halloween and the torches and pitch forks are out all over town and nationally. And when we limp all the way to 2-14 - the worst ever Skins' season in a 16-game cycle - Dan will have run out of excuses.

I never thought I could find happiness over such a shipwreck, but I'm actually dreaming about 2-14 because it will ABSOLUTELY prompt major changes that are long overdue.

amudgarden wrote:

 

Monkster wrote:

 

amudgarden wrote:

 

MikeLowery wrote:

"JJ can fall back on true football credentials."

However, he never stated what those credentials were.

 

JJ played college football.

Whooop-dee-doo-doo. That gave him the street cred to fire Tom Landry and let the press be the ones to tell Tom.

 

No one said it did.  But, compared to Snyder, it gives Jones better football credentials.

Jerruh was lucky that his good friend Jimmah took the job and was successful.  Credit him for doing that, but since then, he's not been so good.

This is a silly argument.  No one wants a Jerruh at the Redskins and Cowboys fans should not want a Jerruh at the Cowboys.  To point at our idiot owner and say Jerruh is better....well duh!

"Why Jerry Jones Isn’t Dan Snyder"

Uhm...because he actually has a team that can win from time to time? 

I wouldn't either, but IF I had to choose, I'd want Jones here instead of the total idiot we have running the train wreck.

It's not even a close comparison.  THAT'S how bad Snyder is an owner.

aGURU wrote:

Let's be fair and truthful.

 

Jones not only played college football, he played at a very high level -- an all-conference offensive lineman on a National Championship team.

 

I think it's foolish for Jones to act as GM. And I think Jones, too, doesn't know what he doesn't know (I know, I know -- I'm starting to overuse that phrase), but what he does know is a helluva lot more than Dan Snyder.

 

Also consider that Jones actually played the game (albeit in the early-to-mid '60s), and that he learned about operations from Jimmy Johnson. Snyder, on the other hand, has no football experience -- playing, coaching, anything -- and has learned from Vinnie Cerrato. Notice any disparity?

 

Flat out, I don't want either fraud as the owner of my team.

 

 

Until Bill Pacells left, the Cowboys had Jeff Ireland, Vice President of College and Pro Scouting, running things in the FO. (He left with The Tuna.) He drafted drafted four future Pro Bowl selections - safety Roy Williams, offensive lineman Andre Gurode, cornerback Terence Newman and tight end Jason Witten during his tenure with the 'Boys.

He is the GM of the Dolphins today.

I don't know where you guys get your facts from, but until recently the Cowboys have had very good management from the FO.

The Dan has had Vinny.....need I say more?