Currently, Mel Kiper has 4 defensive players in the top 5 on his Big Board.

DT - Ndamukong Suh

S - Eric Berry

DT - Gerald McCoy

S - Taylor Mays

QB - Sam Bradford

My question is, if we end up with a top 5 pick, how would you feel about us taking one of those defenders despite our need for offensive line help?  I'm in love with Eric Berry lol and personally I would love him to line up at FS and shift Landry to SS....but then devote the rest of the draft to offensive linemen LOL.

If the skins picked up a left tackle in free agency and drafted a right tackle in round 2 i would be quite happy to see either D.T.'s Suh or McCoy.

After all isnt Griffin due to leave? 

If we HAVE to go defense, Eric Berry is the real deal.He will be a beast at he safety spot for many years to come.

Draft Jimmy Clausen. The kid is going to be the real deal.

This team HAS to go QB IMO. Its been since Heath Shuler that we drafted one in the top 10. Yeah, it didnt work out, but we cant be scared to do it because it didnt work before. This team DESPERATELY needs QB help and this draft is the one to do it.

With all the holes on this offense, NO WAY we go defense at this point. That would be the dumbest thing we could do. There are NO free agent QB's out there worth anything, so if we're rebuilding then go ahead and draft the young QB.

Bradford will slip in Kiper's ratings. I want a QB bad, but Im not high on Sam. He has shoulder issues and plays in a spread offense. I havent seen anything from him that jumps out at me. Clausen looks like an NFL QB. He has the build, he has the arm, he's accurate, and he's been a leader on that Notre Dame team. He's a firey guy and we need that at the QB position. If Clausen comes out then we HAVE to take him IMO.

KidBroSweets wrote:

Draft Jimmy Clausen. The kid is going to be the real deal.

 

Yeah, I actually think Clausen could be special.  I like the fire he plays with and he seems to live for the big moment.  For some reason, the "experts" are saying he's a mid first rounder.  I think that will change as the season progresses and the post season workouts happen.  However, if he chooses to go back to school that would be ideal for the Skins.  Here's why:

2010 uncapped year, we dump everybody (Haynesworth, Hall, Portis, Moss, R. Thomas, C. Samuels) and just be plain sorry.  I'm taking bottom of the barrel sorry.  Then we load up on free agent young Olinemen and draft a few.  Then when Clausen comes out in 2011 we actually have some protection for him.

Bradford rides the pine too much, imo.

Defense is not an option.   > Trade

I'm all for moving down and against drafting a QB. If Cerratto is still in place, I won't be rooting for the team anyway. Regardless, I have no faith in the ability of the FO to find talent anywhere in the draft, let alone with QB's who have a high bust rate. We have to go with numbers, draft tons of folks and get lucky here and there. We're not going to be winning much next year anyway, so any vet stop gap will do.

As for the QB's available in the first round, none of them seem like the real deal to me. Bradford's injury prone. McCoy's never really been tested. Snead is unimpressive this year.

I'm mixed on Clausen. I've watched him a few times and sometimes I think he has Montana-esque qualities, sometimes I'm wondering why he threw it at all.

It also concerns me so if the Redskins do wind up with a top 5 pick. Historical data shows this war room is not capable of making a good football decision at that spot. While they are capable of making the no-brain pick, they are incapable of making the decision that best suits the overall health of the team.

At spot 1-5... there's a coveted player there that's going to net you something. Staying in the 1st round while picking up an additional day 1 pick or even another pick later, is not a bad deal.

I would not pick a DT. I would prefer to trade.

If Clausen is there, then I don't trade and I pick him (provided he continues to play well and my scouts have blessed this)

This will piss some off but in the long run, it will pay off.

But I'd better scramble to get OL men.....

Definately a WR.

We have no need for a QB, Campbell is almost there, what he needs are quality targets that can get 5 yard separation and maintain that gap for 5 second windows.

OL? No problen we can pick up some very seasoned FA's next spring I'm sure. I'm talking really well seasoned, like at least 12 NFL season worth.

If I were Danny I would not listen to the naysayers and keep Vinny on as I'm sure he is the guy to make this happen for the team.

Go Redskins!

 You gotta love a gtood sense of humor in this mess.... I was all like "what the..."

So now I'm wiping Cheerios off my screen. 

Kirknc wrote:

Definately a WR.

 

We have no need for a QB, Campbell is almost there, what he needs are quality targets that can get 5 yard separation and maintain that gap for 5 second windows.

 

OL? No problen we can pick up some very seasoned FA's next spring I'm sure. I'm talking really well seasoned, like at least 12 NFL season worth.

 

If I were Danny I would not listen to the naysayers and keep Vinny on as I'm sure he is the guy to make this happen for the team.

 

Go Redskins!

Kirknc wrote:

Definately a WR.

 

We have no need for a QB, Campbell is almost there, what he needs are quality targets that can get 5 yard separation and maintain that gap for 5 second windows.

 

OL? No problen we can pick up some very seasoned FA's next spring I'm sure. I'm talking really well seasoned, like at least 12 NFL season worth.

 

If I were Danny I would not listen to the naysayers and keep Vinny on as I'm sure he is the guy to make this happen for the team.

 

Go Redskins!

Hilarious. I was thinking that we need another TE, maybe a punter. If Fred Davis goes down, we could be in a pickle. And Hunter Smith ain't going to last forever. We can address the lines by signing morbidly obese high school kids (also good for cap management). If things go badly, we blame the media and place the fans who disagree with the regime in internment camps (that'll get their mind right). I've about had it with all this dissent in the fanbase and media. They're the ones who are causing all this losing.

Terry wrote:


Well, we could draft one of those tackles and turn him into a linebacker.

And you know we'll do it too.

I think you have to be careful about speculating based on one guy's draft board in October. Plus, even if the Skins end up with a top 5 pick, it's kind of arbitrary to consider only 5 players worthy of of a top 5 pick. Some drafts, you might have 10 or 12 guys that are close enough in ability to take anywhere in the top 10 if they match up with your roster needs.

Say you have your value board in front of you, with players (regardless of position) ranked 1-XXX. I'm not sure if I have a problem reaching, say, 10 slots back if that pick will fill an urgent need. More than that, and I think you risk losing value for your pick.

For instance, look at what Atlanta did after drafting Matt Ryan. The Falcons traded the No. 34, No. 48 and No. 103 picks to the Skins for the 21st pick to select OT Sam Baker. A lot of people that that was a reach for Baker who, though a solid player, did not really grade out as franchise left tackle athletically. He was generally graded as a second rounder, with the possibility of sneaking into the bottom of the first round. Baker could very well have still been available at the No. 34 pick.

But the pick worked out for the Falcons for a couple of reasons. One, they did a good job of scouting him, recognizing that his less than ideal quickness was offset by excellent technique, smarts, and work ethic. Two, they recognized, espcially after drafting Ryan, that left tackle was an area of crucial need, and they had some picks to burn. So the forumula is that when talent intersects with roster needs, you get value.

A trade-down might be the most desireable scenario, but it's never a sure thing. So I think a moderate reach is not necessarily bad. The questions are: 1) are there any offensive linemen or quarterbacks who would qualify under this premise? And 2)  is the current management capable of evaluating prospects well enough to make such a decision?

We can't afford to invest top 5 money or a top 5 pick in any of those guys save Bradford unless we were to make a trade, Haynesworth's contract is untradeable I imagine, Landry is probably tradeable. Still, there's really no justifying drafting any of those guys save Bradford. Im a best available guy, but even I couldn't justify going DT, or S. Right now I'm projecting us to pick top 7, the major issue we have is that there are just a TON of horrible teams this year, its why Vegas and Atlantic city are taking a bath while guys like me clean on heavy favorites every week.

skinz4lyfe wrote:

Currently, Mel Kiper has 4 defensive players in the top 5 on his Big Board.

 

DT - Ndamukong Suh

S - Eric Berry

DT - Gerald McCoy

S - Taylor Mays

QB - Sam Bradford

 

My question is, if we end up with a top 5 pick, how would you feel about us taking one of those defenders despite our need for offensive line help? I'm in love with Eric Berry lol and personally I would love him to line up at FS and shift Landry to SS....but then devote the rest of the draft to offensive linemen LOL.

skinz4lyfe wrote:

Currently, Mel Kiper has 4 defensive players in the top 5 on his Big Board.

 

DT - Ndamukong Suh

S - Eric Berry

DT - Gerald McCoy

S - Taylor Mays

QB - Sam Bradford

 

My question is, if we end up with a top 5 pick, how would you feel about us taking one of those defenders despite our need for offensive line help?  I'm in love with Eric Berry lol and personally I would love him to line up at FS and shift Landry to SS....but then devote the rest of the draft to offensive linemen LOL.

If we get a top 5 pick in the draft and if the Olineman I want is gone I would be tempted to draft Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy and put him next to AH if I don't get a trade offer I like.

I want Bradford in round 1, LT in Free agency, RT in round 2, Guard in round 4, 5, RB in round 6

Kilmer17 wrote: If that's the way it goes, we'll get alot of bids from teams wanting to go up to get Bradford. It would be nice to trade down just a bit and still be ahead of Jax. Then be able to fleece them royally so they can get Tebow.

There's a reason the guy didnt come out his Jr year. It was most likely that he was told he'd go like 4th round. I doubt that changes much in '10.

Trdae down and get a stud LT.

Let's see now. Everybody has always claimed that you can get great offensive line finds late in the draft. So why waste high picks on an offensive lineman unless he is the stud of all studs.

I don't know who to pick, but the first pick should be a quarterback. When are we going to learn that in the NFL without a top grade quarterback, you are going nowhere, no matter who you have on the offensive line and on defense.

There will probably be a couple of highly rated offensive linemen in free agency. Without a cap, go after them. Then after getting a gifted quarterback in the draft, because there will be no great quarterbacks in free agency, go after good offensive linemen in the draft. Then a couple of young running backs would help.

But once and for all, go for a quarterback. And don't even look at the "great athlete" at quarterback. They don't do well in the NFL. Steve Young and Tarkenton were the only two who fit the "running and passing" requirements of NFL play.

But get a quarterback!

skinz4lyfe wrote:

Currently, Mel Kiper has 4 defensive players in the top 5 on his Big Board.

 

DT - Ndamukong Suh

S - Eric Berry

DT - Gerald McCoy

S - Taylor Mays

QB - Sam Bradford

 

My question is, if we end up with a top 5 pick, how would you feel about us taking one of those defenders despite our need for offensive line help?  I'm in love with Eric Berry lol and personally I would love him to line up at FS and shift Landry to SS....but then devote the rest of the draft to offensive linemen LOL.

Trade down for

Russell Okung

OT

6-5

300

, But call me silly, At 5 if u made me pick today I would draft

Analysis: Linebacker size and cornerback speed.

Taylor Mays.... call it and Omen but he is the second comming to Sean. Watch his tape

draft Claussen and put him behind our Swiss Cheese OL?  No way

We have to fill the holes on OL and get a stop gap QB --return of Sage Rosenfels or some other game manager.....draft a QB late this year or higher next yr...this is a 3 yr rebuild...