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DMB's Mock Plan V1.0

Posted: 12/02/2012 7:23 PM

DMB's Mock Plan V1.0 


Cut - ($21M in savings)
Alex Smith - QB; David Akers - K; Jonathan Goodwin - C; Parys Haralson - OLB

Extend - ($5M in savings)
Justin Smith - DT/DE; Donte Whitner - S

Resign - ($14M in salaries for 2013)
Dashon Goldson - S; Ricky Jean-Francois - NT/DE; Isaac Sopoaga - NT/DE; Tarvaras Gooden - ILB

Free Agency - ($6M in salaries for 2013)

Matt Moore - QB - Dolphins
*Replaces Alex Smith as the backup to Kaepernick.

Desmond Bryant - DT/DE - Raiders
*Strong pass rusher, improving in run defense. Depth.

Ramses Barden - WR - Giants
*Manningham has been impressive, and we continue to pluck their talent. Barden, 6-6 200+ LB WR, was a 3rd round pick in 2009. When presented with an opportunity, he's showcased his abilities. Replaces Randy Moss on the roster.

NFL Draft -

R1: Barrett Jones - C/OG - Alabama
*BPA pick. Jones provides our long-term solution at center.

R2: Morgan Breslin - DE/OLB - USC
*Explosive pass rusher that gets to the QB and makes plays in the backfield. Great rotational player and special teams ability, possible replacement for Brooks in 3 years.

R3: Jordan Reed - TE/WR - Florida (via Panthers)
*Reed has great hands and runs great routes. Needs to improve on blocking. Great replacement for Walker.

R3: Blidi Wreh-Wilson - CB/FS - Connecticut
*Great size, frame, and makes plays. He could develop as a FS or CB in this league, but he'll definitely be an asset on special teams, and provides depth at either position.

R4: Dustin Hopkins - K - Florida State
*One of the best kickers to come out of the draft in recent years.

R5: Conner Vernon - WR - Duke (via Colts)
*Great small school prospect with reliable hands and strong route running skills.

R5: Dustin Harris - CB/PR/KR - Texas A&M
*Developing as a cornerback, but he has a great future in the NFL as a punt returner.

R6: George Winn - RB - Bearcats (via Dolphins)
*Fights with Dixon for the last RB/FB spot on the roster.

R6: Tanner Hawkinson - OT/OG/TE - Kansas
*Developmental offensive lineman that has played a variety of positions. Replaces Leonard Davis on the roster.

R7: Stacy McGee - DT/DE - Oklahoma (via Bengals)
*McGee would be a mid-rounder but his suspension for the first half of the season drops him to the 7th round. Fights for the last spot along the d-line.

R7: Bruce Taylor - ILB - Virginia Tech
*Replaces Larry Grant on the roster. Physical skills for the 3-4 ILB positions. Sound tackler.

Depth Chart -

QB: Kaepernick/Moore*/Tolzien
RB: Gore/Hunter/James/Winn*
FB: Miller
TE: Davis/Reed*/Celek

WR: Crabtree/Jenkins/Vernon
WR: Manningham/Barden*

LT: Staley/Hawkinson*
LG: Iupati
 C: Jones*/Kilgore
RG: Boone/Looney
RT: Davis/Wiggins

LE: Smith/Bryant*
NT: Sopoaga/RJF/Williams
RE: McDonald/McGee*

OLB: Smith/Fleming
ILB: Willis/Gooden
ILB: Bowman/Taylor
OLB: Brooks/Breslin*

CB: Rogers/Cox/Brock
CB: Brown/Culliver/Harris*
FS: Goldson/Wreh-Wilson*
SS: Whitner/Spillman

ST: Hopkins, Lee, Jennings
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Posted: 12/03/2012 6:49 AM

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Your Free Agency/Salary Cap moves are pretty good, not a big fan of your Draft outside the top pick though.  I think there will be much better players to be had in Rounds 2 & 3, IMO.
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Posted: 12/03/2012 5:57 PM

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Alex Smith is worth something...you could get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him given the lack of free agent QBs in 2013.
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Posted: 12/04/2012 1:23 AM

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All right!!! We are mocking already.

Well, I have to agree with Nashville & Hummbabybear.  I personally feel Alex Smith could net a 2nd round pick or better.  

I like the salary cap relief of 21 million.  My personal feeling is that Daniel Kilgore will be the next center.  Desmond Bryant is an interesting player being 6-6, 310.  He could be a solid LDE.  

Dashon Goldson has been playing great but may price himself out of the Niners range. He is not in the Ed Reed, Polumalu level.  He is not even the best safety in the NFC West with Earl Thomas & Adrian Wilson roaming the division.

If Star Lotulelei drops to into the mid teens, I think the Niners should consider making a move. He is the only player I like in the top 10.  This years top 10 is not as strong as last years, imo.
No play is to big for Colin Kaepernick!!!
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Posted: 12/04/2012 5:39 PM

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http://gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html

If the season ended today the 3rd round pick we get from Carolina would be the 3rd pick in the 3rd round (they rotate by record).
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Posted: 12/05/2012 11:24 AM

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FYI - Adrian Wilson is not nearly as good as he used to be. He's dropped a couple steps. I'd take Goldson over him every day of the week right now. He is playing very solid in all phases right now, and, while he may not quite have the cover skills of Earl Thomas or the ball-hawking skills of Ed Reed, he's not a slouch in either aspect.

I like that he makes statement plays every game. He has opponents thinking about him when they cross over the middle, and that type of intimidation is never a bad thing.

I do think that he could price himself out of the 49ers range, but that would depend partly on what happens with Smith. That salary slot could be used to re-franchise Goldson, potentially.

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As for the draft, I've said this repeatedly elsewhere, on a team that doesn't really show a ton of weaknesses, I'd be looking more carefully at the DL. I think the issues with Goodwin are overblown. He's not used to a pistol shotgun snap, and that's led to some of the bad snaps to Kaepernick. That's very correctable. Outside of that, he's remained pretty solid, and I think it would be foolish to let him go over a fixable issue (i.e., give him time to practice with CK in the off-season).

To me, the age of Justin Smith, and the impending decision on Sopoaga in FA makes the D Line a key area of focus, especially in a draft so chock-full of good DLineman prospects. Sopo has played better since the Chicago game, but he is starting to reach the age where his effectiveness might start to wane a bit, and I'm not convinced RJF is a full-time replacement.
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Posted: 12/05/2012 11:41 AM

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pudding wrote:
I do think that he could price himself out of the 49ers range, but that would depend partly on what happens with Smith. That salary slot could be used to re-franchise Goldson, potentially.

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As for the draft, I've said this repeatedly elsewhere, on a team that doesn't really show a ton of weaknesses, I'd be looking more carefully at the DL. I think the issues with Goodwin are overblown. He's not used to a pistol shotgun snap, and that's led to some of the bad snaps to Kaepernick. That's very correctable. Outside of that, he's remained pretty solid, and I think it would be foolish to let him go over a fixable issue (i.e., give him time to practice with CK in the off-season).

To me, the age of Justin Smith, and the impending decision on Sopoaga in FA makes the D Line a key area of focus, especially in a draft so chock-full of good DLineman prospects. Sopo has played better since the Chicago game, but he is starting to reach the age where his effectiveness might start to wane a bit, and I'm not convinced RJF is a full-time replacement.

I agree DL and Safety, two positions we may need, are very deep & talented this year.
I really like the Safeties though...Eric Reid, Robert Lester, TJ McDonald, Bacarri Rambo.  All of whom are big, fast, physical playmakers, who could step in right away & be very similar to Goldson, IMO.
Also, TE's are solid with Eifert, Ertz(Jr), & Fauria...should we not re-sign Walker.

Anyway, I think we'll be good shape come the draft to fill any needs we may have after Free Agency.

Last edited 12/05/2012 11:42 AM by NashvilleNiner

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Posted: 12/06/2012 12:14 AM

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Yeah, that is my concern, Goldson pricing himself out of range.  His agent, from what I remember, was looking for 8+ million a season.  If Goldson does price his way out of SF, perhaps another "Bill", Jarius Byrd, Whitner's former team mate?

Regarding DL prospects, Kevin Weidl & Steve Muench from ESPN talked about Daniel McCullers from Tennessee who is 6-6 377 as a dark horse prospect.  In the same video, mentioned Sylvester Williams is almost the same talent level as Star Lotulelei.
pudding wrote: FYI - Adrian Wilson is not nearly as good as he used to be. He's dropped a couple steps. I'd take Goldson over him every day of the week right now. He is playing very solid in all phases right now, and, while he may not quite have the cover skills of Earl Thomas or the ball-hawking skills of Ed Reed, he's not a slouch in either aspect.

I like that he makes statement plays every game. He has opponents thinking about him when they cross over the middle, and that type of intimidation is never a bad thing.

I do think that he could price himself out of the 49ers range, but that would depend partly on what happens with Smith. That salary slot could be used to re-franchise Goldson, potentially.

.............................

As for the draft, I've said this repeatedly elsewhere, on a team that doesn't really show a ton of weaknesses, I'd be looking more carefully at the DL. I think the issues with Goodwin are overblown. He's not used to a pistol shotgun snap, and that's led to some of the bad snaps to Kaepernick. That's very correctable. Outside of that, he's remained pretty solid, and I think it would be foolish to let him go over a fixable issue (i.e., give him time to practice with CK in the off-season).

To me, the age of Justin Smith, and the impending decision on Sopoaga in FA makes the D Line a key area of focus, especially in a draft so chock-full of good DLineman prospects. Sopo has played better since the Chicago game, but he is starting to reach the age where his effectiveness might start to wane a bit, and I'm not convinced RJF is a full-time replacement.
No play is to big for Colin Kaepernick!!!

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Posted: 12/10/2012 7:05 AM

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Got news for you guys, Goldson is a Top 3 safety in the NFL he makes plays in the passing game, against the run and is the most vicious hitter in the game at his position our defense suffers greatly by losing Goldson in my opinion he is one of our most valuable defensive players on a defense full of great players and has to be resigned
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Posted: 12/10/2012 7:14 AM

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DMB I don't like the draft plan, I live in FL and see a lot of Gator games even though I hate them. Jordan Reed came to UF as a QB, he is a TERRIBLE blocker, drops more passes than he catches and I hope to god we don't draft him I'd much rather use our #1 pick on Eifert from ND or use the #2 of Ertz from stanford...Dustin Hopkins will go higher than round 4, he broke all of Janikowski's records at FSU and is waaaay more accurate than Seabass he's the best kicker to come out in 20 years period
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:30 AM

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mrmagicmike4life wrote: Got news for you guys, Goldson is a Top 3 safety in the NFL he makes plays in the passing game, against the run and is the most vicious hitter in the game at his position our defense suffers greatly by losing Goldson in my opinion he is one of our most valuable defensive players on a defense full of great players and has to be resigned

Goldson is very good, but I wouldn't put him in the Top 3.  He plays with a reckless abandon, and he hits big & misses big sometimes, particularly in the open field.  I don't think he's irreplaceable.  A Safety with better coverage skills & a more sure tackler would be just as good with our front seven, IMO.
If we part ways with Alex, so we have some cash freed up, and we can get a reasonable deal done, great.  I wouldn't break the bank for him though.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 3:53 PM

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Nashville, can you name 3 safeties that are better? Earl Thomas and ??? Ed Reed isn't the same player he used to be, Polamalu is quickly descending into the land of irrelevance because he can't stay healthy, Eric Berry is irrelevant on a bad team, Adrian Wilson has the same stigma as Berry, Charles Woodson is almost never healthy anymore, you can argue Whitner, but its whoever makes the play with them since they're in the same secondary...if not Goldson then who?
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Posted: 12/10/2012 5:49 PM

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As 49er fans, we have a bias for Goldson's play, but there are several safeties that could fairly be graded around Goldson's ability.

Eric Weddle
Major Wright
William Moore
Kam Chancellor
Malcolm Jenkins
Jarius Byrd
Bernard Pollard
Tyvon Branch

Goldson's good, and he's improved year to year. I think the 49ers are quite happy that they have him roaming the backfield and delivering hits. But to say he's clearly a top-3 safety is ignoring the many good safeties that play around the league.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 7:45 PM

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What is the franchise tag price tag if the 49ers tag Goldson again?
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Posted: 12/11/2012 7:17 AM

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pudding wrote: As 49er fans, we have a bias for Goldson's play, but there are several safeties that could fairly be graded around Goldson's ability.

Eric Weddle
Major Wright
William Moore
Kam Chancellor
Malcolm Jenkins
Jarius Byrd
Bernard Pollard
Tyvon Branch

Goldson's good, and he's improved year to year. I think the 49ers are quite happy that they have him roaming the backfield and delivering hits. But to say he's clearly a top-3 safety is ignoring the many good safeties that play around the league.

Yeah, and I'd put Ronde Barber on that list too.  He's made a fantastic transition to the Safety position in the new Bucs Defense....in fact, he got my Pro Bowl vote.  Morgan Burnett(GB) & Thomas Decloud (ATL) are very good as well.

And I still think Ed Reed is as good as it gets at the FS position.  He's getting older, just like Ray, but he does have 4 INT's on the season.

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Posted: 12/11/2012 8:01 AM

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Pudding, I do think there are some other good safeties around the league. Weddle I think is a tad bit overrated, Major Wright does not even belong in a discussion about Top Safeties, but my feelings about Goldson's play are not due to "homerism" its on film I have not seen a safety that can start 15 yards off the line of scrimmage and make plays in the backfield and at the line like Polamalu, can cover make key pass breakups and ints and play centerfield like Ed Reed, is a better punt protector than Tebow, LOL! and hits like Ronnie Lott and far as all around play, instincts, big plays there are few better than Goldson and if we don't pay him you can bet someone else will and make him the highest paid safety in NFL history. I fear its a move we would regret
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Posted: 12/11/2012 1:23 PM

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And Goldson over-shoots his assignments a lot, which leads to him having to chase down players from behind more often than a FS should. He's gotten much better at reading his keys, but he'll still stray to the wrong side of the field because he's following the QBs eye too much and not watching the route progressions.

He is in the mix for top-10 safeties in the league, without question. Probably even a top-5 safety based on how he's played the last couple years overall. But it really depends on your scheme and what you need your FS to do. I love that Goldson is on the 49ers right now, and I don't worry about his play, but you are a homer if you think Weddle is overrated or Wright does not belong in the discussion.

Ed Reed, btw, hasn't lost much. If you're arguing whether you'd pay Reed vs. Goldson long term, then you might have a point. But Reed remains one of the very best at patrolling the deep middle.


As far as the 49ers 'regretting' letting him  go. That has nothing to do with whether he's a top-3 FS or not. The 49ers regret will be based on who he signs with and for how much. If he were to go to, say, the Rams for a 4 year, $24 million deal, they might regret that. If he signs with the Jacksonville Jaguars for 5 yr, $40 million, they might not care so much, especially if they feel they can get a decent replacement for much less money.

I do think they will look to keep him if they can, but he's not mission critical to their defense, imo. The strength of their defense is in their front 7 and how much pressure they can generate. If they are doing their job, the jobs of their secondary becomes much easier, in general.


hummbaby..

The Franchise tag on Goldson this year would cost around $8.2 million.

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Posted: 01/02/2013 1:07 PM

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Regret is also about who we get to replace him.  We have the right kind of draft this year to grab a good safety since (as you guys argue) you typically don't spend a high round pick on one.  IF we got a safety to replace him, then we might be ok.  I think the same can be said of DT (Sopo) and DE (RJF and needing a capable back up to Smith).  I tend to think we're in a good position though, between Kap's emergence and the limited FAs.  I do think we trade Smith (for a 2014 pick, which we will start collecting) and that frees up some money to deal with some of the FAs.  I think the first 3 rounds will be defense, unless they think Jenkins isn't going to pan out (not worried about that yet); right now we have a No. 1 starter, injuries at the No. 2 and our PR/Speed guy.  Need Jenkins to step up big time (and hopefully get Manningham and Williams back).
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