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Posted: 10/28/2009 12:13 PM

Tarell Brown Extended... 


Tarell Brown signed a three year 7.125 million dollar extension that included 2.5 mil to sign.

 

Update via Adam Schefter


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Posted: 10/28/2009 12:15 PM

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WOW, seems like a lot for a non-starter.  TB must be in the long term plans.

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Posted: 10/28/2009 12:38 PM

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2.3M dollars a year for a starting cornerback?  LOL.  That's almost base value for a corner who plays.  If you look at Dre Bly's 845k dollar deal then yes this is huge, but most corners are not signing for less then a couple million dollars.

rogerforthehall wrote:

WOW, seems like a lot for a non-starter.  TB must be in the long term plans.

 

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Posted: 10/28/2009 1:14 PM

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i think that's a very good deal especially considering the growing role he'll have coming up.

nice to get him signed on and we didn't pay much overall. good deal for both sides IMO.

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Posted: 10/28/2009 6:06 PM

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another great deal by the front office.
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Posted: 10/28/2009 6:16 PM

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Does he even play?

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Posted: 10/28/2009 6:42 PM

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This is an investment for the future, and not for this season.


 


Dre Bly and Walt Harris are most likely gone in 2010. With Spencer's injury problems, and Hudson's lack of CB talent, we are dangerously thin at CB. Keeping Brown to develop into a future starter or dime back will be key to grow talent and to keep continuity in the secondary.

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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:31 PM

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That was my question as well!  Perhaps he is showing a great deal in practice and soon he will get some PT.

 

That gives the Niners Clements, Spencer & Tarell Brown on the roster in 2010.  Not sure about Walt Harris & Dre Bly.

TD49ers wrote:

Does he even play?

 

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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:48 PM

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plannb23 wrote:

2.3M dollars a year for a starting cornerback?  LOL.  That's almost base value for a corner who plays.  If you look at Dre Bly's 845k dollar deal then yes this is huge, but most corners are not signing for less then a couple million dollars.

rogerforthehall wrote:

WOW, seems like a lot for a non-starter.  TB must be in the long term plans.

 

Mind you that this is for 2008, BUT the average salary for a CB is $1.2 mil.  He is making double this as a non-starter.  I would be curious to see how it is structured, but as of today, I stand by my comment...WOW!   WTFM$

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.../5/11/index.htm

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Posted: 10/28/2009 8:14 PM

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Here is the pay structure for T. Brown-

 

The 49ers confirmed that they have given cornerback Tarell Brown -- the team's No. 4 cornerback this year -- a three-year extension. Per Adam Schefter of ESPN, the deal is for three years and $7.125 million contract. The deal includes a $2.5 million signing bonus, and it will pay Brown $800,000 in 2011, $850,000 in 2012, and $925,000 in 2013. That means Brown is signed through 2013. The team's other CBs and their contract statuses (stati?)

Dre Bly - signed through 2009
Nate Clements - signed through 2013
Walt Harris - signed through 2009
Marcus Hudson - signed through 2009
Shawntae Spencer -- signed through 2012

 

The pay seems reasonable but I really dont get the signing bonus?  2.5 million dollars for a non-starter?!

 

Here's the link- Signing

FYI- the info is close to the bottom.

 

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Posted: 10/28/2009 11:34 PM

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I have a couple idea about this...

1) They really like him, and want him to be happy here. Also, you can tell FA's that you can and have restructured deals early and paid a little extra too.

2) They're preparing to trade or release Nate Clements.

3) They're thinking of trying Clements out at safety.

I'd guess it's #1, but you never know these days...all kinds of crazy stuff can happen.

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Posted: 10/29/2009 12:44 AM

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Guys, this is alot of money for a backup.  They must know something that we don't.  Yes, I just made that comment sounding like Captain Obvious.

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Posted: 10/29/2009 1:56 AM

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I think they are trying to lock him up relatively cheap for the future and do know something.  I think we are looking at him replacing Walt Harris more so than Dre Bly.  Yeah, this may be I am stating the obvious as well!

 

Perhaps Brown locked down Crabtree in practice and staff said lock this guy up long term!  Former Longhorn goin' against a former Red Raider!  Ah, college rivalries!!!  Perhaps Crabtree will make the DBs better?

 

I think Dre Bly will be back.  Possibly a rookie prospect as well.

irvin19 wrote:

Guys, this is alot of money for a backup.  They must know something that we don't.  Yes, I just made that comment sounding like Captain Obvious.

 

Last edited 10/29/2009 3:43 AM by Jackmaul

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Posted: 10/29/2009 6:26 AM

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If the coaching staff thinks this guy is good, I could care less what they pay him.  It's not my money.

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Posted: 10/29/2009 8:58 AM

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The thing to keep in mind with this extension, as with the Staley extension, is that brown still has years left on his rookie deal, that is dirt cheap right now.  Most of 2009 is left to be played, and the niners have the guy locked up for four more years past this one, and the bonus begins to count against this year's cap (BTW, was it a roster bonus or a signing bonus?  The niners have the cap room to count Brown's contract bonus all at once).  Financially speaking, in terms of cap impact, this deal is pretty friendly.  With the current cap and CBA, the average NFL salary is right around 2 million dollars, and projects to go up.  The niners have a solid young player signed for the next five years at just about that rate.

 

As for cornerbacks, I think Spencer and Clements and Brown are in the team's long range plan (Coincidence?  Those are also the three corners with the most years left on their deals) and that the team definitely needs to pick up a corner in the draft or in FA.  I like Dre Bly, but I have to wonder how much gas he has left in the tank.  If the niners can draft someone next year, and groom them for a year under a veteran, all the better.

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Posted: 10/29/2009 9:53 AM

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It says the average "SALARY" is $1.2M.  This deal for Brown includes a $2.5M dollar signing bonus that isn't part of his salary, thus the deal gets lowered by $2.5M off the top before you figure out salaries.

 

As you can see his actual salary is far lower then that of the 2008 average

 

$800,000 in 2011

$850,000 in 2012

$925,000 in 2013

rogerforthehall wrote: Mind you that this is for 2008, BUT the average salary for a CB is $1.2 mil.  He is making double this as a non-starter.  I would be curious to see how it is structured, but as of today, I stand by my comment...WOW!   WTFM$

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.../5/11/index.htm

 

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Posted: 10/29/2009 12:21 PM

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But it is certainly part of the package.  IMO plann the FO overpaid for our current 4th corner.  period.  It isn't as if Brown finds $2.5 mill.  Hey the FO is high on him great.  In my opinion 2.5 is a good mill too much

 

Soda said it right I believe, in that we could absorb all of the bonus this year, which is huge.  Depending how much space and how the bonus was structured, perhaps we should be using the excess space to sign a true difference maker, Patrick Willis.

 

We agree to disagree, again.  It's all good.  late

 

The fact doesn't change that we both are 49er fans.

plannb23 wrote:

It says the average "SALARY" is $1.2M.  This deal for Brown includes a $2.5M dollar signing bonus that isn't part of his salary, thus the deal gets lowered by $2.5M off the top before you figure out salaries.

 

As you can see his actual salary is far lower then that of the 2008 average

 

$800,000 in 2011

$850,000 in 2012

$925,000 in 2013

rogerforthehall wrote: Mind you that this is for 2008, BUT the average salary for a CB is $1.2 mil.  He is making double this as a non-starter.  I would be curious to see how it is structured, but as of today, I stand by my comment...WOW!   WTFM$

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.../5/11/index.htm

 

 

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Posted: 10/29/2009 12:38 PM

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You know, I'm looking at Darren Sharper, and wondering if that's what Clements would look like as a safety. Spencer has stepped up in a big way this year, and if Brown will be the next CB to do that, then Clements at safety would take care of one problem, and he'd be valuable to us for longer as well.

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Posted: 10/29/2009 9:01 PM

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NinerNation07 wrote: You know, I'm looking at Darren Sharper, and wondering if that's what Clements would look like as a safety. Spencer has stepped up in a big way this year, and if Brown will be the next CB to do that, then Clements at safety would take care of one problem, and he'd be valuable to us for longer as well.

Wow, what a coincidence! l  have often wondered what our secondary would look like with Brown at one of the corner spots and Clements at free safety. But l was pleasantly surprised that Brown fell all the way to the Niners in the fifth round. He was not just  a corner in college but a damn good one with the Longhorns. Being a thoroughbred Sooner with no love whatsover for  most of the Longhorns, this is a young man who but for a couple of being with the wrong crowd incidents would have been a late first  or second round pick easily. But that belongs to the past and l believe this is a very good move  for the team. All l can hope and l believe will happen is that Tarell will continue to have a more positive impact on this team.

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Posted: 10/29/2009 10:03 PM

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I have some reservations with Nate Clements going to FS.

 

I do agree with putting Clements on the bigger WRs.  Shawntae Spencer is a pretty solid all around CB who can adjust to a scheme and cover the #1 WR, imo.  I just want to see him in the corner blitz a couple of times a game.

 

My reservations about Clements at FS, imo, is if he gets caught in a shift and matched up with a slot WR, I don't see him winning that match up.  His speed & range for myself is questionable. Not sure if he can recover if he bites on play action, there goes the TE or slot again!   You can only go to the nickel and dime defense so often before a team starts to pound you with the run game.

 

I guess my problem is that I can't see him being the last line of defense or supporting the pass defense from the free safety spot with his speed.  His experience will bring him only so far.

 

I feel his strength is against the bigger, more physical WRs in the league at CB which is a task.  Those big WRs like Fitzgerald and the Johnsons have limited stats against Clements but somehow produce All Pro numbers at the end of the year.

 

I am not totally against the idea.  John Lynch wasn't fastest but was an All Pro at FS.  I would like to see it in preseason if anything. In the end, I think the Niners stick with Dashon Goldson at FS.

 

I don't see Eric Berry falling into the hands of the Niners in the 6-10 spots!noidea

 

My questions would be:  What is it that you see that would make Nate Clements a solid FS?  How many converted CBs have transitioned well to either safety spots other than Ronnie Lott, Merton Hanks & Aeneas Williams?

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