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Posted: 08/21/2014 10:38 AM

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Seattle has only carried as many as 3 QBs once since Pete Carroll took over.  Today, they are carrying four:  WILSON, JACKSON, PRYOR and DANIELS.

BJ Daniels is the only one with practice squad eligibility.

I strongly recommend that Harbaugh play Karma and snatch Daniels from Seattle's practice squad as soon as that happens.  He knows our system and is way better than Gabbert.

If Seattle surprises and keeps three including Daniels, we can take Pryor or Jackson and still have an upgrade

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Last edited 08/21/2014 10:39 AM by KezarVet

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Posted: 08/21/2014 10:52 AM

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I like Daniels, I was surprised and a little sad to see him exposed to waivers to try to get him to the practice squad. I wouldn't be confident, though, that he's ahead of Gabbert (even as poorly as Gabbert has played) or Josh Johnson in terms of readiness to come into a meaningful game and play. Daniels has no relevant NFL experience outside of late preseason work against fourth and fifth stringers.

If Seattle exposes him, I could see the 49ers picking him up, but I don't know that they'll find a spot for him on their 53-man roster this year either.
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Posted: 08/21/2014 11:17 AM

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Yeah, I agree with Minstrel.  I think if we're gonna do something, it needs to be 2-fold...bring Daniels (who somewhat knows the system already) for Johnson/McBLT, AND bring in a veteran who could pick up the system fairly quickly throughout the season (like a Sanchez or Orton) to replace Gabbert.  I'm more confident in Sanchez, Orton, or even Tebow than I am with Gabbert...he's shown next to nothing in his NFL career.
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Posted: 08/21/2014 2:08 PM

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The issue here is this is all just Madden talk.  Blaine Gabbert's guaranteed $2M dollars.  The ONLY way that you get him off our roster and our payroll is to trade him to someone.  We're not going to cut him at that pricetag so I cannot for the life of me see him being cut.  If he's not being cut, then we want him to play, because we're not bringing in another veteran to have a 3rd string QB paid $2M.

Folks ... its .... not .... happening.    He's being paid too much and we're not going to move him down the depth chart and we're not going to cut him.
NashvilleNiner wrote: Yeah, I agree with Minstrel.  I think if we're gonna do something, it needs to be 2-fold...bring Daniels (who somewhat knows the system already) for Johnson/McBLT, AND bring in a veteran who could pick up the system fairly quickly throughout the season (like a Sanchez or Orton) to replace Gabbert.  I'm more confident in Sanchez, Orton, or even Tebow than I am with Gabbert...he's shown next to nothing in his NFL career.
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Posted: 08/21/2014 4:25 PM

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$2 million is not an exorbitant amount of money to eat if Gabbert simply isn't any good. If he cost $5 million, that'd be a different story, but $2 million is pretty insubstantial to eat if they feel they can legitimately improve the position. The 49ers only have around $3.8 million of dead money on their cap this year, and they have between $6.5-7.5 million in cap room (after the dead money is already applied). 

The question is who will be available that can legitimately improve the position? Had AJ McCarron not missed most of this off-season with a shoulder injury, Jason Campbell might have been available, and, while he's nothing spectacular, Campbell could have been a solid backup veteran who has similar enough traits skill-set to cover for Kaepernick. (I like Campbell more than I like Sanchez, who I think has benefited from Chip Kelly's innovative offense this pre-season, but whose rather awful past couple years still resonate more strongly than a couple good pre-season quarters). 

If Tavaris Jackson (rather than Daniels or Pryor) gets cut by Seattle, he might be worth a look, too. Certainly, just the gamesmanship of taking a Seahawk to tap his brain on the Seahawk playbook could be a consideration.

Ultimately, I don't think there are a ton of really great options. Hopefully Gabbert or Johnson will step up enough in the next couple games so that the 49ers don't have to resort to finding another option.
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Posted: 08/22/2014 10:34 AM

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I have never heard so much discussion around a backup QB. If Kaep gets hurt, we're in trouble...Just like nearly every team in the league with a clear cut #1.

Backup QB is very low on the totem pole for my concerns. I'm thinking more about getting other folks healthy, the development of our DBs and getting Boone back with the team.
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Posted: 08/22/2014 10:50 AM

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If Kaepernick is lost for the season, or a big chunk of it, or the playoffs, then yes, the backup quarterback doesn't matter...the season is sunk. However, if they lose Kaepernick for, say, 1-4 games, a good backup might save the season whereas a bad backup might lead to 1-4 losses which could knock them out of a playoffs that Kaepernick could be healthy for.

So, I don't think it's quite as black and white as "backup quarterback isn't very important because no good team can afford to lose their starter." That said, I agree in some sense that the issue can be made too much of. Of all teams, the 49ers and Seahawks are best to set up to deal losing their starting quarterback for a short time because they can lean on their running game and defense to try and mitigate the backup quarterback's role and grind out some close wins. It's also dependent on the quality of teams faced while Kaepernick was out, in this hypothetical.

Finally, quarterback is unlike most other positions in that you don't do any sort of rotations with depth to keep the starter fresh. The backup quarterback either has zero game day value (if your starter is healthy, which is the vast majority of time) or tons of value (if your starter is hurt, which is--usually--rare). That's quite different from, say, a backup defensive tackle.

I'd feel better about "all the pieces being in place" if the team had a competent backup. I'd like to know that if Kaepernick goes down for a series, a game or a few games, the 49ers could continue to function offensively (without going into a one-dimensional rushing shell). Considering this is a team that is currently without all their existing pieces in place (Bowman out for half a season, most likely, Aldon Smith potentially out for close to half a season, Boone's status up in the air), it's just one more concern.
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Posted: 08/24/2014 6:07 PM

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I live in S Texas so didn't get to watch him play in college but what is it that people see with Josh Johnson, thought he was bad here ,TB,and here again. Last year we had Colt McCoy another dandy. Steve Young might have been the last good backup
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