Posted: 05/27/2014 5:53 PM
don't have the link right now, but boone is not at OTAs reportedly because he is unhappy with his contract. will he end up holding out? anybody's guess at this point. it is early in the offseason...but this kind of pisses me off. sure, it's a business and he's entitled to take this stance if he feels he's underpaid. but part of me thinks- really boone? we gave you the security of a longterm deal for nice money when you were largely unproven over the longterm. we paid you well and your deal now has 2 years left at a pretty good pricetag. when you hit the market again sure you will get more. but you signed on for $2 million when many thought it was a risky deal and we could have been overpaying you! we are hard up against the cap and are trying to find space to lock up CK. sure, you can try and do the same. but come on. where are we getting money from?boone has been awesome and is an excellent guard. I love his story of being undrafted and working his way onto the roster and then his transition to guard and becoming a starter and even a top caliber guard. but how about some good faith? we gave you a chance when nobody else did. we gave you an extension when it was risky. play out your last 2 years or at least show up to OTAs and have this be an ongoing conversation rather than a time to try and force the team's hand. watch out too boone, as there are others in the mix who can replace you in time.
"You are either getting better or you are getting worse; you never stay the same."
Posted: 05/27/2014 6:00 PM
Posted: 05/27/2014 6:06 PM
Boone went undrafted in 2009. He signed a four-year extension in 2011, and he has two more years on the deal.***UPDATE*** Boone was not on hand for today’s OTA session, the first of the spring for the 49ers.
The 49ers have an unusual situation on the offensive line in that their top player there, left tackle Joe Staley, signed a long extension early in his career and is making only a modest salary – $2.7 million in base pay – this season. Therefore it's difficult to pay other worthy linemen like Boone and fellow starting guard Mike Iupati, more than the left tackle. (The team already hiked up right tackle Anthony Davis' salary in the offseason).
The OTA is not mandatory and several veterans often skip it in favor of working out at home (Frank Gore is a good example). It should also be noted that there had been chatter earlier this year about the 49ers possibly redoing Joe Staley's deal. While that doesn't help Boone out directly, it could at least indicate that they may be looking at trying to restructure deals to make them more reflective of their players value.Obviously, they can't do this ad nauseum, because they will soon run out of cap space. This is where depth become critical, as, at some point, it's impossible to keep a full roster of players in their prime if they all exceed expectations in performance. Brandon Thomas' recovery might have just become that much more important.Interesting to see how this plays out. I like Boone and I like his story (i.e., going from an undrafted, overweight prospect with some character concerns at Ohio State to a well-liked, hard-working lineman who transitioned not just well, but exceptionally from tackle to guard), and I'd like to keep him around. If his desire for a raise is within reason (I do think he's underpaid), I say go for it. It might seal Iupati's fate, if it wasn't already sealed, but I think some continuity at the guard position going into next year would be important. If he's asking for too much, it might mean that Thomas and Kilgore/Looney/Martin might have to fill in two spots on the line next year.
Posted: 05/28/2014 9:45 AM
Posted: 05/28/2014 9:59 AM
Posted: 05/28/2014 10:31 AM
higherwarrior wrote: show up and play alex- we've proven that we take care of our own.
Posted: 05/28/2014 10:45 AM
Posted: 05/28/2014 10:46 AM
Minstrel wrote: Did Mario Manningham or Jonathan Goodwin think the 49ers take care of their own when they were leveraged into taking pay cuts last year?
Posted: 05/28/2014 11:25 AM
plannb23 wrote:and to be fair, Joe Staley only makes about $2.7M in comparison to Boone's projected mark of $2M .... so I guess its a question of who blinks first. Do the 49ers really want to spend more money on a guard when they're likely trying to prepare for one leaving this off season?
Posted: 05/28/2014 12:31 PM
plannb23 wrote: To be fair neither of those are our "own" guys. They're free agents that we brought in. Alex Boone is someone that was drafted by this franchise.
Posted: 05/28/2014 12:41 PM
Posted: 05/28/2014 4:02 PM
Minstrel wrote: Technically, Boone wasn't drafted, but that's not important.
Minstrel wrote: I don't believe that the reason the 49ers put the screws to Manningham and Goodwin was because they were outside free agents. I think they put the screws to those two players because they had the ability to do so and it helped their bottom line.
Minstrel wrote: My recollection was that they played hard ball with Gore, too, a few years back and it's hard to define Gore as anything but the highest example of "the 49ers' own."
Minstrel wrote: I think that Boone should act in good faith (that is, not cause trouble by agitating among his teammates or try to negotiate through the media) but attempting to put pressure on the team to get more money seems fair to me, assuming that's what he's doing/planning.
Last edited 05/28/2014 4:04 PM by plannb23
Posted: 05/28/2014 4:21 PM
plannb23 wrote: I don't remember them playing hardball with him, and if they wanted to they could have done that now with his high price tag this year. They didn't.
Posted: 05/29/2014 2:08 AM
Posted: 05/29/2014 7:44 AM
Minstrel wrote: I don't mean that they pushed him to restructure, I just remember some conflict the last time his contract was running out and he wanted an extension. There was some question of whether he'd hold out and that the team might fine him if he did.
Posted: 05/29/2014 7:59 AM
plannb23 wrote: Doesn't that prove my point? That they didn't play hardball with him?
Posted: 05/29/2014 9:58 AM
Posted: 05/29/2014 10:10 AM
plannb23 wrote: So my point was taking a hardline on an extension and forcing a paycut are not the same. They have always tried to do the right thing for their players they've cultivated where possible as long as it didn't jeopardize the franchise.
Posted: 05/29/2014 10:30 AM
Posted: 07/14/2014 9:49 AM