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Defensive Line

Posted: 05/27/2014 1:14 AM

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Defensive line salaries & age during the season.

Justin Smith - 35, salary currently 6.93 million.
Ray McDonald - 30, salary currently 5.34 million.
Glenn Dorsey - 29, salary is currently 3.79 million.
Demarcus Dobbs - 27, salary currently 1.43 million.
Ian Williams - 25, salary is currently 1.23 million.
Will Tukuafu - 30, salary is currently 645,000. Listed as FB/DE
TJE - 24, salary is currently 495,000.
Tank Carridine - 24, salary is currently 1.24 million.
Quinton Dial - 24, salary currently 540,000.
Kaleb Ramsey - Rookie, salary currently 432,000.
Mike Purcell - 23, current salary 420,000.

As I look at the DL players, after Justin Smith, there isn't really anyone that I would really game plan around.  Also, the top 3 salaries belong 3 of the oldest players on the DL aside from Tukuafu.  Sooner or later they will be gone or won't be able to maintain their level of play.

DeMarcus Dobbs is the 4th highest paid DL player.  Couple pre-seasons ago he looked unblockable as a pass rusher.  I am hoping he will be a pass rushing force this season.  Should help compensate the pass rush should Aldon Smith be suspended for any amount of time.  He should have a chip on his shoulder as well coming off the DUI.

Will Tukuafu, didn't realize he was 30 but does a heck of a job as a blocking FB.  When he came back from injury for the last couple of games, he was putting guys on their backsides!  It seems like he is a luxury guy to keep around but I feel he is very important as an enforcing type of blocking FB.  He was easily one of my favorite players for those last couple of games.

Quinton Dial, again, I am not enamored with him.  I feel he may be cut.  Mike Purcell on the other hand I feel is a guy to keep an eye on!  The last guy I said that about, DT Chris Tupou, got cut!eek  

X-factor - Tank Carridine.  I think we all see him as the unknown x-factor, due to injury, on the DL.  He could be the next Justin Smith or the next Todd Kelly!  Obviously we are hoping for anything close to Justin Smith or better.

After taking a closer look at the DL, I have a feeling we may be looking at the last season this starting 3 will be together.  Justin Smith will be 36 next season. Is Ray McDonald worth 5.9 million in 2015?  Will Dorsey be retained? Or is Ian Williams good enough to be the future at NT?
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Posted: 05/27/2014 6:49 AM

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You omitted our sleeper:  Lawrence Okoye.

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Posted: 05/27/2014 8:45 AM

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I think we're in pretty good shape here, we have the starting 3 intact from last year, and 3 promising young backups behind each of them in Tank, Ian Williams, TJE.  Of course, you're not going to gameplan around any backup players, but you'll have to wait & see what they do when they are in there on an every-down basis.  I think it's highly encouraging however, that in their limited reps, TJE (in particular) & Dial (http://www.49ers.com/news/arti...92-44a33aa0cb34 ) played well.  You're right about Tank being the x-factor.  I hear he's up to 295 now, and looking good...if that's true and he maintains that explosiveness he displayed at FSU, we could really have something.

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Posted: 05/29/2014 12:17 AM

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KezarVet wrote: You omitted our sleeper:  Lawrence Okoye.
That is a hard name for me to type out.  Let's just hope he makes me eat my many words!

I read he stuffed someone during the special teams practice.  That is progress that I thought I would never ever hear.  I actually have more respect for the basketball guy who turned down a try out.  

The thing that gets me is that I feel this is a bit selfish, a side show!  Call me jealous but I feel he is making a mockery out of the NFL.  He needed help putting on football pads from what I remember reading.  

I heard he played rugby which is great!  Tells me he has some physicality.  I am trying to keep positive.  Perhaps I am looking at this the wrong way as usual!redface
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Posted: 05/29/2014 5:42 AM

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exactly how is it selfish to pursue a football career? how is he making a mockery out of the nfl?

i don't understand those statements at all.

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Posted: 06/01/2014 6:30 AM

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I'm friends with Ryan Sakamoto, one of the few writers allowed to watch OTAs and asked him what his take on Okoye was to this point.  Here's his response:

"Okoye still looks extremely raw but his speed was ridiculous the other day. I will let you know his progress as this is a make or break season for him."
Ryan

Ryan also mentioned to me that Okoye actually caught Darryl Morris from behind during special teams drills.   That's pretty wild since Morris runs a 4.3 40!  I don't see Okoye making the squad due to the crazy depth we now have on defense.  We  haven't had this much depth since 1984 and that year we were 18-1.

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Posted: 06/09/2014 2:55 AM

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I get that he is pursuing his dream of playing in the NFL as a football player having no experience.  Not sure who in the past had no football background and made the NFL besides a soccer kicker.    

Now, he is being paid about a half million $$$ to learn football 101 when a roster spot could have gone a guy who went the traditional route.  I feel like he took someone's roster spot and $$$ instead of going to a junior college or Division I school.

I read Kezar's last post and hopefully Okoye is not wasted money. I'm glad he can run down a speedy DB but would be much more happier if he can hit the guy head on from the front.  Harbaugh preaches iron sharpens iron.  How does he make the other players better?

Again, I am probably looking at this the wrong way.  I should be looking at this as a guy who has the physical talent to full fill his dream and the skill set to excel at football.  That he is worth a spot on the PS or in fact, a roster spot.  His 6'6" 300 4.6 forty was too much to ignore.

Maybe this is to sharpen the Tomsula's coaching skills.  Sometimes coaches can take things for granted having a lot of experienced high caliber veterans.
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Posted: 06/09/2014 4:50 AM

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Have we even heard reports of how Tank is looking in OTA's?
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Posted: 06/09/2014 4:51 AM

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Jackmaul wrote: I get that he is pursuing his dream of playing in the NFL as a football player having no experience.  Not sure who in the past had no football background and made the NFL besides a soccer kicker.    

Now, he is being paid about a half million $$$ to learn football 101 when a roster spot could have gone a guy who went the traditional route.  I feel like he took someone's roster spot and $$$ instead of going to a junior college or Division I school.

I read Kezar's last post and hopefully Okoye is not wasted money. I'm glad he can run down a speedy DB but would be much more happier if he can hit the guy head on from the front.  Harbaugh preaches iron sharpens iron.  How does he make the other players better?

Again, I am probably looking at this the wrong way.  I should be looking at this as a guy who has the physical talent to full fill his dream and the skill set to excel at football.  That he is worth a spot on the PS or in fact, a roster spot.  His 6'6" 300 4.6 forty was too much to ignore.

Maybe this is to sharpen the Tomsula's coaching skills.  Sometimes coaches can take things for granted having a lot of experienced high caliber veterans.
Have to trust the 49ers talent evaulators. If they feel he is worth a roster spot then that is all I need to hear.
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Posted: 06/09/2014 7:46 AM

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Jackmaul wrote: I get that he is pursuing his dream of playing in the NFL as a football player having no experience.  Not sure who in the past had no football background and made the NFL besides a soccer kicker.    

Now, he is being paid about a half million $$$ to learn football 101 when a roster spot could have gone a guy who went the traditional route.  I feel like he took someone's roster spot and $$$ instead of going to a junior college or Division I school.

Okoye hasn't been taking up a roster spot thus far. Last year, he was on the IR all year. If the 49ers weren't interested in the Okoye experiment, there would just have been one less player on the IR...he didn't take anyone's spot.

This year, his likely route will be to try and make the practice squad, which probably means he'll be held to the standards of all other players. Practice squad spots are limited and I doubt the 49ers want to squander them, so Okoye presumably will only make it if he's deemed more promising than the other players competing for the spot.

Ultimately, there's nothing selfish about sticking with an opportunity as long as a disinterested party (i.e. no nepotism and the like involved) considers you worth it.

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