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Chris Culliver at it again

Posted: 04/18/2013 10:25 PM

Chris Culliver at it again 


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How long until Harbaugh sends this fool packing? There is no room for idiots like him on Championship teams. He already caused enough controversy during the Super Bowl and I guess he didn't learn a darn thing. 

Personally, I dont think he is anything but an average CB so I would not be opposed one bit if we traded him away for a 4th or 5th and drafted his replacement. 

Harbaugh has said before that the one thing he wont tolerate is violence towards women and Culliver comes out and says this crap. It's not looking good for Chris Culliver.

Last edited 04/19/2013 7:23 AM by plannb23

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Posted: 04/19/2013 3:16 AM

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this is a stupid thing he's done but hardly something that motivates a GM to look to dump him. particularly for less than his current value to us.

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Posted: 04/19/2013 4:02 AM

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talking himself out of a job....
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Posted: 04/19/2013 5:48 AM

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Sad. He needs to hurry up and grow up and learn that he is  playing for a top notch class organization before he learns how quickly his average talent can be replaced. Not saying that he is a scrub but definitely replaceable.
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Posted: 04/19/2013 7:37 AM

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Can anyone actually see what was written?  I'm curious to see what was actually said.  The link didn't have it or I missed it.
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Posted: 04/19/2013 7:42 AM

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plannb23 wrote: Can anyone actually see what was written?  I'm curious to see what was actually said.  The link didn't have it or I missed it.

The radio said he mentioned something about why women got to act like b&tches and hoes.....  Seem to me that this guy really isn't that good to deal with constant negative attention he brings to himself.
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Posted: 04/19/2013 8:01 AM

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That's what this is about?  Jesus.  While I don't condone that behavior this is just silly.  
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plannb23 wrote: Can anyone actually see what was written?  I'm curious to see what was actually said.  The link didn't have it or I missed it.

The radio said he mentioned something about why women got to act like b&tches and hoes.....  Seem to me that this guy really isn't that good to deal with constant negative attention he brings to himself.
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Posted: 04/19/2013 8:27 AM

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This is certainly stupid and immature behavior, in my opinion, but claiming that it qualifies as "violence against women" really has no validity. Culliver really doesn't seem to have much idea of how to comport himself, but I'd be awfully surprised if the 49ers viewed this as so disruptive to the team that they had to get rid of him.
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Posted: 04/19/2013 8:30 AM

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plannb23 wrote: Can anyone actually see what was written?  I'm curious to see what was actually said.  The link didn't have it or I missed it.

He posted a screenshot of a chat between himself and friends:




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Posted: 04/19/2013 8:38 AM

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So he's being run through the media for saying "Hoes."

Really?  That's what this is about?  

Would I ever use that word to describe a woman? No.  
Is that word something that's used often to describe women?  Yes.  
Does that make it okay for him to say it?  No.

Should this be something that's in the media?  Not at all.  In fact his friends are the ones in the grey bubbles doing most of the talking.  This is just silly.
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Posted: 04/19/2013 8:43 AM

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agreed. it's pretty silly and shows poor judgment on his part to do that. but this is a complete non-issue and to suggest this is further reason to get rid of the kid is, frankly, LUDICROUS.

while i probably wouldn't want him dating my daughter with an attitude like that, there's nothing in this to suggest he's any different from 75% of the men i know out there and in lockerrooms and gyms across the world- even in 'corporate' environments too.

this is exactly what plannb said- SILLY. no doubt someone should talk to him and tell him about the dangers of social media (he should already know) but this is really nothing. simply the result of today's media blowing things up out of nothing.

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Posted: 04/19/2013 8:58 AM

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As a "slightly right of Trotsky" kind of left leaning, pinko that I am, and as much as I have been horrified by Michael "aka Dog Killer" Vick (ok, not any more since he kissed and made up with the SPCA), and any number of homophobic or sexists actions or comments, meh. It is certainly very poor judgment and not terribly articulate. But, uh, anyone listen to rap music lately? Completely hypocrytical for the media to lambast Culliver and then glorify any number of atheletes, artists, etc. for equally bad or worse comments or lyrics.
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Posted: 04/19/2013 9:26 AM

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I don't know that this is a non-issue. The problem is not so much that he used some vulgar language to talk with friends (or that it might not be much dirtier than more explicit 'rap' music, which does have a history of misogyny in certain aspects of the industry). It's that he didn't have the better judgment not to post this conversation on his Instagram feed, which is open to the public.

The lack of judgment and awareness of how this is inappropriate compounds the issue. This isn't somebody talking smack with friends. This is someone who, after talking smack with friends, apparently thought "you know what? I'm going to let all my fans see this, too."

Now, it's possible he just wasn't aware of how Instagram works or that he was posting to Instagram, although the initial defense was 'it wasn't really him' who said those things.

Noteworthy, too, on the 'Rap Music' defense. People have a choice not to buy that music. Many people offended by what certain artists represent will stop buying that music. If one is arguing that he has a 'right' to express himself, that's not the same as questioning his judgment. The team, if they felt their product/brand was being harmed by Culliver's carelessness, could absolutely let him go. The question then is, do they feel this gaffe hurts them enough? Does it hurt their reputation to not take some sort of action?

The media is lambasting him for obvious reasons. He already gaffed in the spotlight of the Super Bowl with his statements to Artie Lange about 'gays in the locker room.' Because Football is a family entertainment, for the most part, there is a different standard that most teams expect (again, because they need to protect their product and their brand). If this was a first incident, it probably wouldn't be as big of a deal. Because it's a second occasion, however, and barely a couple months since the first, it doesn't really bode well on the "he understands his responsibility as a spokesperson for the team" front.

I don't know that it will be big enough for them to just get rid of him, but I'm positive the team is far from happy about it and will definitely be evaluating his long-term prospects with the organization even more carefully now that he has a second gaffe on his resume. (And we don't even know if he's had other minor incidents of bone-headedness behind closed doors, either).

I do hope he figures it out. Obviously, I'd prefer if he didn't hold such misogynystic views, but, more importantly, I hope he just grows up and recognizes that he needs to think about what he says and what he does. Just learning to have that social filter is a step in the right direction.
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Posted: 04/19/2013 1:19 PM

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I know one thing..if the teams takes a corner high, the writing is on the wall for Culliver.
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Posted: 04/19/2013 1:29 PM

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Kaepernick7 wrote: I know one thing..if the teams takes a corner high, the writing is on the wall for Culliver.

I think that's a bit of a leap. With Tarell Brown only under contract one more year and Carlos Rogers a very likely cut candidate next off-season, the 49ers could very possibly draft a cornerback in the first several rounds even if they plan to keep Culliver around. As Baalke said yesterday, the team tries to draft prior to the need, rather than waiting for a hole to open in the roster before drafting a replacement.

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Posted: 04/19/2013 1:59 PM

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Shouldn't he still be recovering from the 3rd degree burns he received by the Ravens WR's as he seemed to be on most of the wrongside of highlights during the SB getting burnednoidea Everyone else on the team seemed to be locked in and working out trying to get better and Not on instagram. And this is definitely not about music choices IMO. Hip hop gets blamed for alot but at the end of the day He has to be more responsible especially today more than any other time in sports these athletes understand being a brand and representing yourself in a certain manner. He has to ultimately understand that his friends and family don't play on Sundays he does. So they may can getaway talking like that but he can't in the same public forums. The team just signed NA who will come in with a chip on his shoulder. Cox maybe ready to assume a bigger role as his talents were of a starter prior to being taken away from football,and Brown is in his contract year will come in ready to prove something. He could easily become the low man on the totum pole. Young fella need to get a big picture perspective quick.
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Posted: 04/20/2013 3:06 AM

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Culliver, I think he should be more aware of his exposure.  Gotta ask yourself one question, is he a good team mate or a cancer (Brandon Lloyd)?  Then go from there I guess.noidea
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Posted: 04/20/2013 7:57 AM

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I don't get why people are surprised that some athletes are like this. As long as it isn't criminal I just want the player to perform while on the field.
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Posted: 04/20/2013 11:07 PM

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No one is surprised that athlete's are like this. In fact, I think we're all quite aware that athletes (and people in general) can be like this.

What we're noting is that for someone who has potentially millions of dollars riding on his ability to keep himself out of the negative spotlight (on the heels of getting slapped on the wrist for just such an action barely more than two months ago), he doesn't seem to have gained the common sense to just keep his private exchanges with his 'boyz' out of the public eye.

I don't care what this personal politics, religion, or beliefs might be, and, while I do hope he has some basic decency in terms of his personal behavior goes, I'd agree that what he chooses to do in his spare time isn't really my concern, as a fan. However, the reality is, if he keeps sticking his foot in his public mouth, there's a point where the 49ers will need to protect their 'business' and 'image' and cut ties.

I don't think it will be immediately, but I think the chances of him earning a second contract with the team has gone down a bit. If he had shown maturity an growth after the first incident, I think they would have put that aside and focused solely on his play on the field. Now, I think they may be evaluating his intelligence and fit with the team.

The mistake is to think that these type of decisions off the field do not reflect on a player on the field. If a player makes selfish decisions that do not show concern about the team at large or the bigger picture, you can be that coaches note that.
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Posted: 04/21/2013 9:22 AM

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*sure? lol ;o)

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