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Possibly released or traded players

Posted: 02/06/2013 8:06 AM

Possibly released or traded players 


Who do u think the players will be. Who or what will we get for them         Alex smith  carlos rogers  david akers etc.
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Posted: 02/06/2013 8:45 AM

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I don't see them releasing Rogers unless Revis is brought in. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to me. His contract is up in 16 so I think they would wait another year or tow to release him to make room for more players.

I think the most underrated signing the 49ers have to make is Delaine Walker. He needs to come back.
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Posted: 02/06/2013 9:27 AM

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thethe wrote:
I think the most underrated signing the 49ers have to make is Delaine Walker. He needs to come back.

Yeah maybe, at the right price.  He was "Mr. Stonehands" this year with half as many drops as catches.  His blocking & versatility still have value though...

I think if we plan on drafting a TE (like Eifert, Ertz, Fauria, Toilolo, etc) who could conceivably step in right away at the #2 TE(which i think most of them could), his signing might not be as important.

Really, the TE class is stacked this year.  I didn't even mention mid-round-ish guys such as Travis Kelce, Ryan Otten, Michael Williams, Phillip Lutzenkirchen.  I would feel comfortable letting Walker go, if we drafted any one of these guys, to be honest.

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Posted: 02/06/2013 12:53 PM

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Ditto that.  Let someone else pay Walker what he's not worth.  We have so many draft picks this year we can draft Walker's replacement.
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Posted: 02/06/2013 1:12 PM

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I think Delanie Walker's value is far greater than you're giving him credit for.  I'm not advocating him being over paid but he's a very valuable part of our offense.  Especially on that wham play we run.  He's the key component.
SDNeocon wrote: Ditto that.  Let someone else pay Walker what he's not worth.  We have so many draft picks this year we can draft Walker's replacement.
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Posted: 02/06/2013 1:44 PM

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Walker played great in the playoffs and especially the SB. Made a great low to the ground catch in the 4th of the SB too. Plus that licking he put down on the kickoff was awesome!
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Posted: 02/06/2013 2:10 PM

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paul1642 wrote: Walker played great in the playoffs and especially the SB. Made a great low to the ground catch in the 4th of the SB too. Plus that licking he put down on the kickoff was awesome!

You're being a little generous to say he played "great" in the playoffs.  He's a nice utility player (hence the "Swiss Army Knife" kickname)...but 1 catch (and a couple drops) in the GB game, 1 catch in the Atlanta game, and 3 catches in the SB.  I agree he had a decent Super Bowl performance overall; but still, he really declined this year, IMO.  His blocking & Special Teams play is still pretty solid, but nothing that can't be replaced.
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Posted: 02/06/2013 2:42 PM

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NashvilleNiner wrote:
His blocking & Special Teams play is still pretty solid, but nothing that can't be replaced.
Isn't that what some people said after we lost Costanzo?
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Posted: 02/06/2013 3:21 PM

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questfor6 wrote:
NashvilleNiner wrote:
His blocking & Special Teams play is still pretty solid, but nothing that can't be replaced.
Isn't that what some people said after we lost Costanzo?

Do you think we would have won the Super Bowl if Costanzo was out there?...(being bear hugged)  Hard to say.  Point being, obviously his loss wasn't THAT big. 
Now, Walker is a better "regular" player as well.  But again, I just don't think he's as irreplaceable as thethe was suggesting.

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Posted: 02/06/2013 3:42 PM

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NashvilleNiner wrote:
questfor6 wrote:
NashvilleNiner wrote:
His blocking & Special Teams play is still pretty solid, but nothing that can't be replaced.
Isn't that what some people said after we lost Costanzo?

Do you think we would have won the Super Bowl if Costanzo was out there?...(being bear hugged)  Hard to say.  Point being, obviously his loss wasn't THAT big. 
Now, Walker is a better "regular" player as well.  But again, I just don't think he's as irreplaceable as thethe was suggesting.
Who knows?  Maybe he makes the tackle on Jones' kick return. noidea
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Posted: 02/06/2013 6:51 PM

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what do you all think about letting goodwin and paralson  go this off season or tryin to trade paralson
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Posted: 02/06/2013 7:31 PM

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NashvilleNiner wrote: 
Do you think we would have won the Super Bowl if Costanzo was out there?
Maybe, I know our chances would have been better with him out there. I don't remember us giving up a TD on a kick return or punt return when Costanzo was on the coverage unit (I'm not 100% sure on this). We lost him to what amounted to peanuts in the NFL (2 year deal for 1.8 million) We signed an older and inferior player in Haggans for 1 million, I would much rather have seen that money go to keeping Costanzo. 

Here's an articlefrom November: 

49ers unit less special without Costanzo

On Monday night, the special-teams standout will return to Candlestick Park with Chicago, which ranks third in the NFL in both kickoff- and punt-return coverage after signing Costanzo to a two-year, $1.87 million contract in March.

Meanwhile, San Francisco has slipped from 13th to 31st in the league in kickoff coverage and from 11th to 20th in covering punts.

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Posted: 02/06/2013 7:41 PM

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I think walker is someone who needs to be resigned. He is an excellent blocker and good receiver. I think where we need help is dl depth. Rarely do we substitute players and when the offense is struggling it becomes a real issue when these guys are on the field for so long.
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Posted: 02/07/2013 6:25 AM

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Walker's Replacement may already be on the Roseter, a lof are saying Garrett Celek is moving up quickly and him and Kaep had a little chemistry, not sure how true all this is, but that may be an option. I also read Jenkins was going to work with kaep this offseason, and if I am not mistaken, he did return some in college. I think we do to Bmore like we did to NY, take Jacoby Jones away from Bmore, I think he is a more complete WR than #19 jr, but he does fumlble a fair amount
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Posted: 02/07/2013 9:20 AM

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questfor6 wrote:
NashvilleNiner wrote: 
Do you think we would have won the Super Bowl if Costanzo was out there?
Maybe, I know our chances would have been better with him out there. I don't remember us giving up a TD on a kick return or punt return when Costanzo was on the coverage unit (I'm not 100% sure on this). We lost him to what amounted to peanuts in the NFL (2 year deal for 1.8 million) We signed an older and inferior player in Haggans for 1 million, I would much rather have seen that money go to keeping Costanzo. 

Here's an articlefrom November: 

49ers unit less special without Costanzo

On Monday night, the special-teams standout will return to Candlestick Park with Chicago, which ranks third in the NFL in both kickoff- and punt-return coverage after signing Costanzo to a two-year, $1.87 million contract in March.

Meanwhile, San Francisco has slipped from 13th to 31st in the league in kickoff coverage and from 11th to 20th in covering punts.


And yet we were 4 points away from a Super Bowl win...

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Posted: 02/07/2013 9:55 AM

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I think Walker is likely gone just because he's done enough to get a bigger payday than we can do.  I feel bad for the guy with his recent loss, and I imagine many in the 9ers will feel the same way.  That may play, but honestly, he's better than what he gets paid but we don't need him that way.  Celek might be fine. 

 

As for special teams, we also kept guys who were on special teams and who knows if they performed to expectation.  Further, some of the guys who were hurt played on special teams so you have to factor that into the equation.

 

I think we don't sign Davis, we let Sopo go and draft a DT, we let Walker go and maybe draft a TE, we trade Smith.  Not sure about RJF since I think it depends on how the staff views Dobbs and the rookie on the PS.  I really don't see RJF as a long term guy, since I just don't think he's good enough for DT and he's not a No. 1 DE like MacDonald.  So, he's pushing for depth where we have other guys, and we can use the money elsewhere.

 

I know forlks are down on Haralson.  He could be released, but that (IMO) is only if we think Cam is a keeper.  Grant is probably gone since he can probably start for some teams and I doubt we can afford him as a back up. 

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Posted: 02/07/2013 11:21 PM

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i'd hate to see Delaine go, he's a good football player. hopefully he stays but i know sometimes money does have a huge influence on a player.

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