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Report: Ray Lewis Took Banned Substance?

Posted: 01/29/2013 10:24 AM

Report: Ray Lewis Took Banned Substance? 


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c...2&eref=sihp

It doesn't look like he took a PED, but it looks like he may have taken an illegal substance (in NFL anyway) to heal quicker when he got injured earlier in the year...
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Posted: 01/29/2013 10:29 AM

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metfansrule wrote: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c...2&eref=sihp

It doesn't look like he took a PED, but it looks like he may have taken an illegal substance (in NFL anyway) to heal quicker when he got injured earlier in the year...
It was a long article and maybe I missed it.  Where did it mention anything about it being an illegal substance in the NFL?
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Posted: 01/29/2013 10:42 AM

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This is probably the passage:



IGF-1 is also a substance banned by the NCAA and by every major pro league. Alleging that the NFL warned players away from S.W.A.T.S.'s spray because it's a threat to "Big Pharma," Key boasted that S.W.A.T.S. is "the most controversial supplement company on Earth."


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Posted: 01/29/2013 10:48 AM

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pudding wrote: This is probably the passage:



IGF-1 is also a substance banned by the NCAA and by every major pro league. Alleging that the NFL warned players away from S.W.A.T.S.'s spray because it's a threat to "Big Pharma," Key boasted that S.W.A.T.S. is "the most controversial supplement company on Earth."



That's the one.. I tried copying it, but computer bugged out.. Sorry.
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Posted: 01/29/2013 10:54 AM

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From what I've read, many NFL players, including Drew Brees, has used stuff from that company.  Why is that substance banned?  Is it a substance that builds big muscles but is dangerous, or is it something that helps the healing process?  Are they against players trying to recover from bad injuries quickly?  If so, should they also ban whirl pools, etc?
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Posted: 01/29/2013 11:07 AM

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IGF-1 (short for "Insulin Growth Factor - 1"), is banned because it acts similarly to growth hormone and, aside from its own effects, could be used to mask other growth hormone (including HGH and certain steroids). This is nothing like whirl pools, which are merely therapeutic aids that do nothing to chemically enhance an athlete.

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Posted: 01/29/2013 11:14 AM

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pudding wrote: IGF-1 (short for "Insulin Growth Factor - 1"), is banned because it acts similarly to growth hormone and, aside from its own effects, could be used to mask other growth hormone (including HGH and certain steroids). This is nothing like whirl pools, which are merely therapeutic aids that do nothing to chemically enhance an athlete.
From my very quick googling, it sounds like most doctors concur that the trace amounts found in that deer stuff would have no affect whatsoever.
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Posted: 01/29/2013 11:40 AM

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Doesn't matter. Any substance that can help mask a proven banned substance will also be considered banned. That's the only way they can regulate.
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Posted: 01/29/2013 11:57 AM

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rantnrav wrote: From what I've read, many NFL players, including Drew Brees, has used stuff from that company.  Why is that substance banned?  Is it a substance that builds big muscles but is dangerous, or is it something that helps the healing process?  Are they against players trying to recover from bad injuries quickly?  If so, should they also ban whirl pools, etc?
Anabolic steroids can be used to "build big muscles" but can also be used to recover from injuries faster.  By your rationale, those should be legal if you're just using them for injuries then?
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Posted: 01/29/2013 1:51 PM

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Why is this even a story? Even if he came out today and said he used ALL kinds of banned substances there is no way in hell the NFL is going to ban him before the Superbowl. They need and want his story.

If murder isn't going to get him banned, nothing will!


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Posted: 01/29/2013 2:43 PM

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I don't buy the logic there, but the reason he won't get banned is because there's no time for him to go through the normal due process (fact presentation; appeal; etc.) before the Super Bowl.

It's not a non-story if it turns out he was using the spray, but it may be a non-story because there is no credible info actually tying him to SWAT other than the info provided by the owners allegations at this time. Stories like this inevitably come out during Super Bowl week. Many of us 49er fans may simply not have noticed because the Niners haven't been back to the Super Bowl in so long. tongue
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Posted: 01/29/2013 2:43 PM

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Crabtree didn't get asked about the rape allegations at media day, I guess deer spray and Ray Lewis is bigger news. lol.

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Posted: 01/29/2013 2:52 PM

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Deer spray at least takes the place of any possible lingering questions of double-homicide involvement.  lol.

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Posted: 01/29/2013 3:10 PM

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Ravens will use the hate and channel it against your team. And concerning the niners gimmick offense, the patriots found out that doesn't work against a Ray Lewis led Defense.

Ray Lewis will know what Kid Tat ( you have to admit, he does look like kid rock) is gonna do before Kid Tat does.

This is not the Falcon defense. There is no coming back.
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Posted: 01/29/2013 3:17 PM

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Crabcruncher wrote: Ravens will use the hate and channel it against your team. And concerning the niners gimmick offense, the patriots found out that doesn't work against a Ray Lewis led Defense.

Ray Lewis will know what Kid Tat ( you have to admit, he does look like kid rock) is gonna do before Kid Tat does.

This is not the Falcon defense. There is no coming back.

HAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHHAHAHA.  Seriously??? That's what you are going with?????  Classic.
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Posted: 01/29/2013 3:19 PM

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Let's try to keep analysis and commentary (from either side) a bit more constructive and intelligent than "my team is awesome and your team sucks, so we're gonna win." tongue
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Posted: 01/29/2013 5:40 PM

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Crabcruncher wrote: Ravens will use the hate and channel it against your team. And concerning the niners gimmick offense, the patriots found out that doesn't work against a Ray Lewis led Defense.

Ray Lewis will know what Kid Tat ( you have to admit, he does look like kid rock) is gonna do before Kid Tat does.

This is not the Falcon defense. There is no coming back.
You're right, I suppose.  The Falcons defense only allowed 18.7 points per game this year compared to the 21.5 that the Ravens defense gave up.  Fear not, though, the Ravens did edge them in rushing defense by a whopping 0.4 yards per game (123.2 to 122.8).  Seriously, you're trying to separate the 17th ranked defense from the 24th ranked defense as the reason 49ers fans should be worried?
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Posted: 01/29/2013 8:55 PM

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Crabcruncher wrote: Ravens will use the hate and channel it against your team. And concerning the niners gimmick offense, the patriots found out that doesn't work against a Ray Lewis led Defense.

Ray Lewis will know what Kid Tat ( you have to admit, he does look like kid rock) is gonna do before Kid Tat does.

This is not the Falcon defense. There is no coming back.



Yep, clearly Kid and Colin were separated at birth.tongue
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Posted: 01/29/2013 9:37 PM

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GoldenBuck wrote:
Crabcruncher wrote: Ravens will use the hate and channel it against your team. And concerning the niners gimmick offense, the patriots found out that doesn't work against a Ray Lewis led Defense.

Ray Lewis will know what Kid Tat ( you have to admit, he does look like kid rock) is gonna do before Kid Tat does.

This is not the Falcon defense. There is no coming back.



Yep, clearly Kid and Colin were separated at birth.tongue
Which one is Kid Rock???
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Posted: 01/30/2013 3:49 AM

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dea49 wrote: Why is this even a story? Even if he came out today and said he used ALL kinds of banned substances there is no way in hell the NFL is going to ban him before the Superbowl. They need and want his story.

If murder isn't going to get him banned, nothing will!
You know, we have been really civil with you guys.  And in every post, some idiot decides to turn it into a "Ray murdered someone and got away with it" post. 

No one, not even the prosecuter, ever accused Ray of being one of the ones who had a knife.  1 person, a known con-artist, was the loan person who said Ray participated in the fight.  Numerous other eye witnesses all said he tried to break it up.  The real facts are that the two "innocent angels" were yelling gang member slogans.  The gang members hit one of the two Lewis acquantences over the head with a champaign bottle and that started a fight.  The gang members had guns and used them as Lewis' party ran off.  The bottom line was, people in Lewis party most likely stabbed to gang members in self defense.

Ray Lewis withheld evidence because, based on Atlanta law, if it was found that he participated in any way in the fight, then if someone was found guilty of murder during the fight he could be found guilty of murder also.  Stupid law, but that is what it was.  If you were in his shoes, would you want to take that chance?  You had a con artist saying you threw punches.  Would you cooperate and wind up having it used against you.

Most say he was wrong not to cooperate.  I suppose so.  And he was hanging out with some seedy people.  For that, he paid for it.  He did his time and learned a hard lesson.  From that day forward, he has been nothing but a model citizen and possibly the most respected player in the NFL, respected by his peers.  You won't find a harder worker.  You won't find someone more willing to help others.  You won't find someone who does more for the community.  He plays clean football.  He inspires all, even the other team, to play to their fullest.  Look at who he has been over the past 13 years, not who he was as a young kid who had money and fame thrown at him and didn't know how to handle it.

Now, if any of you have any concrete information that shows Ray Lewis was involved with a murder, by all means turn over everything you know to the DA and let them bring it all back up.  Otherwise, let's get back to talking about football.

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