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Report: Alex Smith is expected to ask for his release before FA

Posted: 01/28/2013 10:07 AM

Report: Alex Smith is expected to ask for his release before FA 


Last edited 01/28/2013 10:07 AM by CDC84

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Posted: 01/28/2013 10:48 AM

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Typical agent maneuver. The eyes of the world are on the 49ers, and what better time to gain some leverage in any upcoming negotiations (with the 49ers or with other teams) than to put out some news regarding a player. Smith has modestly deflected any questions around this to date. I would expect he'll continue to do the same in the coming week.
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Posted: 01/28/2013 11:43 AM

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how will approach gain alex smith any leverage with us or other teams?

it's a serious question because i fail to see how it helps towards that end. however i don't have the contract knowledge you do.

unless of course you mean that putting this out there now would lower his trade value and basically force our hand in releasing him and allowing him to go where he wants. i'm assuming that's what you meant....?

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Posted: 01/28/2013 12:12 PM

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Smith has been unusually accommodating to the 49ers over the years. He restructured his rookie contract; with the exception of his brief 'rift' with Nolan, he sat quietly by during the tumult of the Nolan and Singletary eras; he didn't make a commotion when the 49ers flirted with Peyton Manning; he has remained steadfastly in Kaepernick's corner despite losing his job.

It wouldn't be surprising to see the 49ers ask Smith for a 'favor' again prior to some of his bonuses vetting (in mid-March), so they could buy some time to work out a deal. Because of the timing on aspects of his contract, and because Smith isn't the type to go out of his way to ask for his release, it makes sense that his agents would do the dirty work and, while there are tons of reporters looking for a story, leak that he will ask for a release.

By doing that, that puts the impetus on the 49ers to have to approach Smith and it gives him and his representatives some leverage in any negotiations around that. It could be more control in where he might be traded if he does restructure. It could be the timing of the payout and the amounts guaranteed in his contract.

Bottom line, it puts this on the 49ers radar and reminds them that it should be a priority. I don't know that Alex asked for this to be put out, but it looks like a classic move by an agent to get publicity (and publicity = leverage).
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Posted: 01/28/2013 1:35 PM

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I was going to post this earlier. I get what Pudding is saying regarding the business move aspect while you have the attention of the world. However I think it is crappy on the part of the agent to take away or create any additional distractions right now IMO. Why not continue to allow Alex be the class act he has been throughout the process which in the long run may reflect better for him and his options, because it is not a given that all teams will see the move as a good thingnoidea
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Posted: 01/28/2013 1:40 PM

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As I said, I don't know if Smith, himself, asked to have this put out. I think it was very likely a calculated move by the agents. I don't think it will affect the sentiment around Smith's character. He's built up far too much good will around the league for how he has handled all the adversity he's faced over his career. He also is not the one talking about this (and I don't expect that he will really acknowledge the talk this week at all).

This is a very typical agent move.
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Posted: 01/28/2013 2:41 PM

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I don't see why we would release him if he has trade value. No one is going to trade for Alex at his salary if they don't want him to start. If traded, the 49ers will get compensation and Alex will be a starter, its a win for everybody. Gus Bradley should be pushing to get him to Jacksonville. They could build the same mold the 49ers used with a strong defense and an offense built around MJD with ball security at a premium. I would settle for a 2014 second round pick since we are loaded with picks this year.
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Posted: 01/28/2013 2:48 PM

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It's because all the money that gets paid out before April 1st will count against the 49er cap next year, and they have some cap decisions already facing them. They already have $1 million against next year. They could have upwards of $3-4 million if they don't renegotiate his deal or move him before his other bonuses vest.

I stated before that the best the 49ers might hope for is a 2nd round pick. However, it could be that they get something like, say, a 3rd round pick this year, and then a conditional pick in the future that is based on his performance. Maybe it ends up being two 3rd rounders in consecutive years after all is said and done. Or a 3rd this year, and a 2nd next year if he meets all his conditions.

In any case, as we've mentioned in other threads, it's the financial timing of payments that complicates the decision to keep or trade him.
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Posted: 01/28/2013 3:11 PM

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Whatever happens, it will be an interesting storyline to follow after the Super Bowl. My guess is he's traded, but Baalke and Marathe will figure out what option is the best. I wonder if Harbaugh will bring in Josh Johnson again to compete with Tolzien for the backup spot.

I would like for Alex to get at least one snap in the Super Bowl. I don't know what kind of special package Harbaugh and Roman could come up with, but something like that would be cool to see in what will probably be his last game as a 49er.
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Posted: 01/28/2013 3:28 PM

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Josh Johnson seems like a reasonable "veteran" to bring in to compete for a backup spot. If the 49ers want to go the veteran route, the other guy who'd be of interest to me is Matt Moore. I thought he played reasonably well as Miami's starter in 2011. Not an impact player, by any means, but competent at moving the offense...about the best you can hope for from a veteran reserve quarterback. The other free agent quarterbacks don't really excite me.

I also wouldn't mind the 49ers taking a flier on a quarterback in the draft and making Tolzien the second-stringer, if Harbaugh is sold on Tolzien as a guy who can play competently at the NFL level in limited action. It would be a quarterback corps lacking in experience, of course, but Harbaugh has shown with Kaepernick (and maybe even Alex Smith, when you consider how quickly he got Smith playing relatively well in his system with no proper off-season) that he's capable of developing the mental side of a quarterback pretty quickly.
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Posted: 01/28/2013 4:34 PM

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matt moore would be nice but i just don't get josh johnson. i realize they had a player/coach relationship years ago. imo keeping tolzein indicated harbaugh's feelings. i would keep alex unless when they signed him the expectation was he would be gone in 2014,they should've factored in the cost of smith/kap against the 2014 cap.
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Posted: 01/28/2013 8:45 PM

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I knew something like this would happen.  I thought Alex Smith was going to ride this till the day before he was owed any money and let the Niners make the move to let him go.  Asking to be let go is a better move by Alex.  

I think Alex Smith deserves this chance to go find a new home as soon as possible.  At least this gives the Niners some room under the salary cap.  Alex keeps on giving!

I am holding hope for some type of compensation or Alex coming back as an assistant coach to an assistant coach.  Jeep Chryst in particular.
No play is too big for Colin Kaepernick!!!
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Posted: 01/31/2013 9:54 AM

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I just hope Alex doesn't play for the Cardinals.
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Posted: 01/31/2013 10:02 AM

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I just hope Alex doesn't play for the Cardinals.

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Because the 9ers will have to face him twice or because his life expectancy will be significantly reduced behind that Oline?
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Posted: 01/31/2013 4:28 PM

York: 49ers can fit Alex Smith's contract under next year's cap 


http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog...-next-years-cap

NEW ORLEANS -- Backup quarterback Alex Smith is scheduled next season to make $8.5 million, a figure 49ers CEO Jed York on Thursday said the 49ers can handle.

"You figure out what's best for guys, what's best for the team," York said. "And you figure out, is there a spot on the team for him from a cap standpoint? Yeah, absolutely, there's a spot for him on the team. "From a need standpoint? It's pretty nice to have two quarterbacks that you feel you can win with. Is there going to be a demand for a quarterback that's played as well as he has the last couple of years? Yeah. Does he want want to go start and play? So there are a lot of 

things that go into it. And we'll sit down after the Super Bowl and figure out what's best for everybody and how to move forward."

With the NFL salary cap expected to be around $121 million, the 49ers already have $121.85 million currently devoted to 49 players under contract for the 2013 season. In the unlikely event that Smith remains on the team, the impact could be felt at other areas.

The 49ers would also like to re-sign Pro Bowl safety Dashon Goldson. It they are unable to reach a long-term deal with Goldson, the 49ers can retain him with the franchise tag for $7.45 million.

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Posted: 01/31/2013 4:53 PM

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Thanks for posting that CDC84. 

Look, the fact is, the 49ers are going to what is best for them.  Alex, has been a true "team player" for sure....and let's not forget the $50 mill he has made.  As stated, more than likely this is tonsil hockey from Alex's agent.

Eight million allotted for the QB position is a very reasonable number.  However with the needs of the team and coming contracts & decisions for Aldon, Goldson, Delanie, Whittner and the rest, I don't think management will keep Alex Smith.  However, Alex is a commodity   I don't know if the team and Alex can extend the roster bonus deadline to attempt to trade Alex to a team he would "like", but the bottom line is that we get to the end of March and if the best offer on the table is a 4th next year, we take it.

Again, Alex has been a Man among Men, for sure.  However IMO, I don't think we will just cut him.
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Posted: 01/31/2013 7:20 PM

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i'm hearing that andy reid is smitten with alex smith. man i hope we can somehow turn that into a reasonable trade. i said a while back (along with many others) that i thought KC was the best fit for alex. they have a very good young team but have been hit with tough injuries and poor QB play. with a coach like reid and a solid veteran QB like alex, that is a team that could jump up into the playoff hunt next year IMO.

i am praying somehow we can trade alex although it seems quite possible the interest is mutual and perhaps both sides would wait it out and watch alex get released instead. we will see in another couple of weeks.

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Posted: 01/31/2013 11:04 PM

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We need Goldson more at this point than a high paid backup. I'm hoping the 49ers and Alex can redo his deal for him to stay and to give us enough money to sign Goldson, Sopoaga and Walker. We should also look into signing Moss back for one more year.
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Posted: 02/01/2013 3:09 AM

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smith wants to start. there's no way on earth he's renegotiating his deal with us to stay as backup QB. he's a goner.

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Posted: 02/01/2013 12:01 PM

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higherwarrior wrote: i'm hearing that andy reid is smitten with alex smith.
I havn't heard anything about this but I think that would be great for Smith if its true. Chiefs could take Joeckel with the top pick, (unless Geno Smith is Reid's guy) an offensive weapon in the 2nd, and then trade their 3rd round pick for Alexbiggrin They already have one of the top RB's in Charles, maybe they can bring Bowe back if they don't have to sign Albert.

Its also possible Reid could trade for Smith, resign Albert, draft G Smith, and have him back up A Smith until he is ready, similar to how CK waited for his turn.
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