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49ers vs Falcons: Pregame Talk

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Posted: 01/14/2013 1:41 PM

49ers vs Falcons: Pregame Talk 


I figured we should have a thread to discuss the upcoming NFC championship game. The last time we played in Atlanta, we had the game won and then gave it away. I have a feeling things will be different this time. The only thing that really worries me is the noise level. I hope CK doesn't have problems getting the play, relaying it to the rest of the offense, and then getting the snap off in time. I like the 49ers chances to reach a 6th Super Bowl.
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Posted: 01/14/2013 1:54 PM

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I'd rather not start Dre Bly on Sunday. Maybe I'm putting too much on his mistake, or perhaps I'm making too much of the fact that he's no longer in football, but I just don't like the match up with him as a starting corner.
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Posted: 01/14/2013 2:05 PM

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Unlike most our previous games, against the packers, Harbaugh kept putting the pressure on in both offense and defense instead of coasting and playing PREVENT once we had a lead!

If he continues that philosophy I feel pretty good about our chances this week and maybe further.


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Posted: 01/14/2013 2:13 PM

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Minstrel wrote: I'd rather not start Dre Bly on Sunday. Maybe I'm putting too much on his mistake, or perhaps I'm making too much of the fact that he's no longer in football, but I just don't like the match up with him as a starting corner.
What about Clements, he had the game finished with an int, and all he had to do was go down. That was another Falcons last second fg winning drive to win at home. They did this against Seattle this past weekend, against Carolina in the regular season, against the Bears 2 years ago, against the Ravens last year, catch my drift, and that's just ones I remember off hand. This team has a way of getting last second field goals for the win at home.

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Posted: 01/14/2013 2:19 PM

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dea49 wrote: Unlike most our previous games, against the packers, Harbaugh kept putting the pressure on in both offense and defense instead of coasting and playing PREVENT once we had a lead!

If he continues that philosophy I feel pretty good about our chances this week and maybe further.

Yup, no mercy, and keep the pedal to the metal. Especially with Atl at home with the last second fgs.

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Posted: 01/14/2013 2:23 PM

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crabsvdgood49ers wrote:
Minstrel wrote: I'd rather not start Dre Bly on Sunday. Maybe I'm putting too much on his mistake, or perhaps I'm making too much of the fact that he's no longer in football, but I just don't like the match up with him as a starting corner.
What about Clements, he had the game finished with an int, and all he had to do was go down.

Yeah, I confused Bly's interception-fumble follies with Clements'. I thought Bly's was the one that happened in the game quest referenced, but Bly's happened in a blowout loss to the Falcons.
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Posted: 01/14/2013 2:26 PM

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I was referencing 2010, when Clements screwed up. That loss stung. From Wikipedia:

Still looking for a win the 49ers flew to Georgia Dome for an NFC duel with the Falcons. In the first quarter the 49ers took the early lead with QB Alex Smith making a 12-yard TD pass to TE Vernon Davis. Then DB Taylor Mays recovered a blocked punt in the endzone for a touchdown. Then the Falcons rallied with QB Matt Ryan completing an 8-yard TD pass to WR Harry Douglas. Then the Falcons took the lead with three field goals from kicker Matt Bryant. He made a 37-yard field goal near the end of the 2nd quarter, a 31-yard field goad in the 3rd. Late in the 4th quarter, CB Nate Clements intercepted Matt Ryan's pass which should have sealed the game for the 49ers who were then up 14 - 13. However, instead of going down, Clements continued down the left sideline attempting to score. He would return the interception 39 yards before Falcons WR Roddy White was able to strip the ball from him and the Falcons recovered the fumble.[9] After regaining possession, the Falcons drove down the field again and this time was able to win the game on a 43-yard field goal by Matt Bryant, giving the 49ers another loss.
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Posted: 01/14/2013 4:11 PM

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One trend the 49ers will need to break to get to the Super Bowl is the season long pattern of winning two games, and then having a stinker. The pattern to date:

W: Green Bay, Detroit
L: Minnesota

W: NY Jets, Buffalo
L: NY Giants

W: Seattle, Arizona
T: St. Louis

W: Chicago, New Orleans
L: St. Louis

W: Miami, New England
L: Seattle

W: Arizona, Green Bay
?: Atlanta

Now, the 49ers did play perhaps even better in the 2nd matchup against Green Bay than they did in the first (a break to their two year trend of playing a little worse in a 2nd matchup against a team), so perhaps they can break another trend this upcoming week.
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Posted: 01/14/2013 6:11 PM

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Kaep rained 446 total yds and 4-TDs against the Pack and Wilson torched the Falcons for 445 yds and 3 TD's.   I'm sure we'll be able to put up some offensive numbers but we will have to shut down the run and limit Matty Ice under 250 yds 1 or 2 TD's.  If we hold them under 17 points we win the game and off to The Crescent City.

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Posted: 01/14/2013 11:48 PM

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I'm kind of worried by the noise as well.  The noise can really limit the offense.  I believe the run game and the health of Justin Smith's left arm will be more important than ever!

Last time these two teams met in 2010, they were without CK for the Niners and Julio Jones for the Falcons.  Iupati & Anthony Davis were both very green early in the season.  William Moore was a rookie as well for the Falcons as their starting SS.

I think the biggest change of all for the Niners is the coaching staff, for the better of course!!!

2 years ago in Atlanta is not a very good way to compare to going into this game, but that was a relatively competitive game against a team that went on to the playoffs that year.  No the Niners come to Atlanta with a whole different attitude and with much more confidence.  

I got confused as well in regards to Clements & Dre Bly but the Niners owe Atlanta for 2 embarrassing losses and what better place & time to do it than in their house in the postseason?

Should be another satisfying game for the Niners!
No play is too big for Colin Kaepernick!!!
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Posted: 01/15/2013 12:43 AM

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I heard on TV tonight that the 49ers have not won a road playoff game since 1989eek I knew it had been a while, and we have won a SB since then, but that's a long time with out a road win! We are definitely due.

I don't want to underestimate the Falcons, but I feel they are ready for a letdown after their emotional win over Seattle. It was a first playoff win for coach Smith, Ryan, Gonzalez, White, and others. The 49ers on the other hand are still hungry after coming so close last season. This is just me speculating, but I think the 49ers expected to move on and the Falcons are relieved to be here after being one and done in recent years.
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Posted: 01/15/2013 2:48 AM

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on the surface i feel we should have a fairly easy time beating the falcons. i feel we can take away the run making them one dimensional on offense and the defense should be able to keep pressure on ryan the whole game. i was surprised at the falcons being able to run the ball on the hawks which i thought was the difference maker in the game. imo if the niners don't get in their own way(feel niners are the much better team)it will be on to new orleans.

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Posted: 01/15/2013 7:53 AM

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JMO....but I don't believe there is any such thing in the NFL as being fairly easy to beat a team......look at the Ram's for out more recent adventure in that train of thought.  The Falcons have weapons....not as many or as good as ours, but they do have home field advantage in a dome and that will take some punch out of what we bring to the table.......how much is another question.  I do believe we will win, especially if Justin can be just a tad more aggressive in the pass rush area, but I also believe it will be a dog fight.  However, I said the same thing when GB was marching into our stadium.biggrin

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Posted: 01/15/2013 8:29 AM

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gldnwht wrote: JMO....but I don't believe there is any such thing in the NFL as being fairly easy to beat a team......look at the Ram's for out more recent adventure in that train of thought.  The Falcons have weapons....not as many or as good as ours, but they do have home field advantage in a dome and that will take some punch out of what we bring to the table.......how much is another question.  I do believe we will win, especially if Justin can be just a tad more aggressive in the pass rush area, but I also believe it will be a dog fight.  However, I said the same thing when GB was marching into our stadium.biggrin

Eh, the Falcons have arguably the best tandem of WRs in football, to go with a legend at TE who seems to never be off the top of his game.  To say their weapons aren't as good might be going too far. 

Should be a good game, but I'm feeling more confident than in any of the previous 3 playoff games we've played in in the last 2 years.
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Posted: 01/15/2013 9:02 AM

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metfansrule wrote:
Eh, the Falcons have arguably the best tandem of WRs in football, to go with a legend at TE who seems to never be off the top of his game.  To say their weapons aren't as good might be going too far. 

Should be a good game, but I'm feeling more confident than in any of the previous 3 playoff games we've played in in the last 2 years.

I agree.  And we've had a few difficulties with tall, rangy TE's like Jimmy Graham last year, and the small receivers too; which the Falcons have in Gonzalez & Harry Douglas, to go with White & Jones.  And Jacquizz has really stepped up to give them a nice thunder & lightning combo (although 'Quizz showed some "thunder" last week too!)

Also, Mike Nolan has done a fabulous job with that Defense.  I think we have a better team & we should win, but its definitely gonna be a battle.

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Posted: 01/15/2013 9:30 AM

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I'd say that the Packers had more weapons (Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Cobb, Finley) and the 49ers did a nice job in limiting them. The "31" looks like a lot for points allowed, but 7 was a defensive score and another 7 was a garbage time touchdown with the 49ers in a soft keep-everything-in-front defense. So, they gave up 24 points at most and 17 when the game was competitive.

Mitigating against that was that the 49ers were at home and the Packers' offensive line is mediocre at best. But now that I've checked, Atlanta's may not be much better, if at all. The latest update I could find for ProFootballFocus' offensive line rankings was from week 10, but at that time, they had the Falcons at #20 (24th in pass blocking, 21st in run blocking, 1st in avoiding penalties).

So it's possible they've gotten a lot better since then, but I've certainly not heard/read much heralding their line.

They were also pretty mediocre running the ball (by yards per carry) during the regular season, though they obviously ran the ball well against Seattle on Sunday.

I don't think any game is easy, especially against a team that won as many games as the Falcons did, but I also think that if the 49ers don't have a let-down, they should be in control of this game. The Falcons don't generally run the ball well enough to force the 49ers to commit more defenders to the box and Fangio has proven himself pretty capable of limiting offenses with a lot of weapons. And Matt Ryan isn't the kind of elite quarterback that can simply shred the best laid plans and schemes with one amazing throw after another.

Meanwhile, Atlanta's defense doesn't strike me as being well-equipped to stop the 49ers. They've struggled with mobile quarterbacks (Cam Newton had two big games against them, Russell Wilson shredded them) and they gave up the fourth-highest yards per carry average to opposing running backs. They gave up the tenth highest passing yards per attempt and passing yards per game. Against Seattle, the deep-intermediate throws that Wilson was completing are the ones that Kaepernick feasts on when he's playing well.

As the Vikings and Rams showed, any game (especially against competitive teams) is a real threat for a loss. But I think the Vikings and Rams each had something that gives the 49ers some trouble. The Vikings had a mobile quarterback who was playing well early in the season and the Rams had a tremendous defensive line, capable of getting a lot of pressure with just their front four. The Falcons don't have a mobile quarterback and I'd say that their defensive line is more "solid" than "tremendous." And if John Abraham is limited, that severely weakens their pass rush.

I think the 49ers should be favorites on the road, but it's nothing close to a lock. That said, this is perhaps the most favorable match-up the 49ers could have hoped for in a conference championship game.

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Posted: 01/15/2013 9:33 AM

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IMO we struggle against the taller receivers and that's why I think that we might struggle with White and Jones.  As for the rushing attack I really don't worry about that much if Justin Smith can play the way he played last weekend.  

Offensively, the biggest thing that has always been part of the 49ers success and failure is their ability to run the football.  Last week I felt like if Frank Gore was successful running the football that it would lead to openings for Kaepernick running the football and throwing the football, which it did.  If Frank is getting about 4 yards per carry then offensively we're going to be fine.
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Posted: 01/15/2013 12:37 PM

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Gatom wrote: Good luck to you guys, should be a fun game. I love that we are the underdogs as the #1 seed playing at home in the NFC title game. Fist time ever that has happened.

Good luck to the Falcons and it should be a fun game. I think whichever teams wins it, it will be competitive. Obviously, based on my post, I think the 49ers are more likely to win but I certainly wouldn't be shocked if the Falcons win.

And Kaepernick might come up short. He's still at the stage in his career that excellent performances can't be assured and there might be some volatility to his performance. We'll see.
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Posted: 01/15/2013 3:37 PM

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gldnwht wrote: JMO....but I don't believe there is any such thing in the NFL as being fairly easy to beat a team......look at the Ram's for out more recent adventure in that train of thought.  The Falcons have weapons....not as many or as good as ours, but they do have home field advantage in a dome and that will take some punch out of what we bring to the table.......how much is another question.  I do believe we will win, especially if Justin can be just a tad more aggressive in the pass rush area, but I also believe it will be a dog fight.  However, I said the same thing when GB was marching into our stadium.biggrin
maybe i shouldn't have used the word easy but i would have considerable more doubt if pete hadn't decided to ICE the kicker and the hawks were coming to the stick. i feel we did get in our way against the rams resulting in a tie and a loss. i think we can stop the falcons rushing game and somewhat hold gonzalez in check. the ability of willis and bowman to pass defend should help control the throws to the middle of the field. i could be completely off base but the falcons do not cause me angst.
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Posted: 01/15/2013 4:29 PM

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I think one x-factor that has been a little overlooked for the Falcons is Jacquizz Rodgers. While Michael Turner is still a factor, he isn't an elusive back, and the 49ers have tended to do ok against bigger, downhill backs without much wiggle (Steven Jackson's 100 yard day during the tie being the notable exception).

They have shown to be susceptible to jitterbugs, though. Damien Woodhead's play was a key part of the Patriot rally. Reggie Bush was about the only part of the Miami offense that had consistent success against the 49ers. Ahmad Bradshaw had a big game against the 49ers, as well (although he's not so much of a jitterbug in size now, as he's added 15 lbs to his frame in the past couple years).

I expect a heavy dose of White and Jones (and Gonzales), but I could see Atlanta trying to soften up the secondary a bit by using Rodgers out of the backfield and forcing the LB and safeties to watch for him. I think running him instead of just trying to overpower the line of scrimmage with Turner (who hasn't done that all that effectively all year, quite frankly), might also be something they try to do to gain some advantages.

I do think, as many others have said, that the 49ers defense and offense matchup well against Atlanta, and, despite the home field advantage and dome factor, I understand why they might be favored to win. But I think it would be a mistake to underestimate Atlanta. I don't think the 49ers will, of course, but some in the local media seem to be.
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