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Colin Kaepernick to start Sunday vs. Saints

  • Smith2Davis
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Posted: 11/21/2012 7:48 PM

Colin Kaepernick to start Sunday vs. Saints 


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Posted: 11/21/2012 7:55 PM

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i know! mixed feelings right now... start of a new era. this has made me realllyyy nervousss
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Posted: 11/21/2012 8:08 PM

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It's almost like the start of a new season in a way, I'm excited about the POSIBILTIES that are in front of us but very nervous that we don't play up to those possibilities...going to be an interesting show indeed. And this might also be a way for Harbaugh to get some clarity on the situation - if Kaep struggles in a hostile environment and isn't ready to step up, now he knows and Alex is the starter until next off season. If Kaep nails it like he did against the Bears, it'll be a changing of the colors!,
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Posted: 11/21/2012 8:08 PM

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Very risky move.  Harbaugh wants to go vertical so bad and he just doesn't trust Alex can do that.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 8:24 PM

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Wow is just the word, I didn't see this coming.  While I trust Harbaugh, I do have to question the wisdom of putting in a guy making his second NFL start for a team with legit superbowl aspirations.  Young QBs, for the most part, have ups and downs, and while CK's first start was pretty much all ups, there will be downs around the bend.  Defenses will catch up.  Film will get around.  If it were me, I would have stuck with the guy who got me to the conference title game last year.  This could be a brilliant stroke, or it could blow up in Harbaugh's face, but, given coaches' track record, I think brilliant stroke is more likely.  One thing I will say: the 49ers need to find out what they have in CK.  I believe in his talent, but having all the tools is different from doing.  I believe he's the future, that this will be CK's team someday, but there's always doubt with any young player.  Starting him in a hostile environment like the Superdome may be the best way to find out what you've got.  One spectacular game aside, I still think CK's capacity in the passing game (based on the other times he's played) is still uneven.  Something like that could very well cost the 49ers home field if CK keeps playing.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 8:30 PM

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I'm surprised Harbaugh went in this direction.  I always thought that he would stick with Alex for at least the rest of this season, health permitting.  But then again, he's the one making $5mill, not me.  Everyone saw what Kaep did on Monday and if he takes off and never looks back, then that's all good for everyone.  The thing now is, what's going to happen if Kaep lays an egg in the 1st half?  Smith's psyche takes a hit, Harbaugh is second guessed, team loses identity, etc...
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Posted: 11/21/2012 8:34 PM

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i like Colin, but i still belive in Alex Smith.

he's got to be our guy. He was 1 game away from getting us to the Super Bowl and had us 6-2 before his injury.

hopefully this is more of a "precaution" start to protect Alex and he doesn't end his career with the 49ers like this.

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Posted: 11/21/2012 8:39 PM

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this decision kinda makes sense, Colin does some things that Alex doesn't really do well, like create plays with his legs and throw the deep ball.

but bottom line, Alex Smith is a solid QB. He doesn't make many mistakes and has been very solid the last year and a half at QB.

i really hope this works out. who knows right now if this is a short term deal or not.

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Posted: 11/21/2012 9:01 PM

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the thing that really stood out from the trotter report was the line " the issue was not health related", meaning that smith lost the job based on performance. this is very risky because like the above posters have pointed out, what happens when kaep lays an egg? the entire chemistry of the team, which built up solidly over the past season and a half, could REALLY take a hit. damn, really really nervous. sunday cant come fast enough so we can all have a definite answer lol
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Posted: 11/21/2012 9:29 PM

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Assuming Trotter's report is true...

I thought Harbaugh might use "extra time off due to the concussion" as a handy excuse to play Kaepernick one more week with an easy way to revert the switch if Kaepernick doesn't do well.

But maybe Harbaugh just doesn't care.

That is to say, if Kaepernick does bomb or just look unready to take over for good, Harbaugh will simply switch back to Smith, expect Smith to deal with the temporary demotion and let the fans and media say whatever they want. It would bespeak a rather extreme confidence in either his control over the locker room or his knowledge of the pulse of the locker room, to be so sure that such a disregard for plausible deniability won't backfire in terms of team chemistry/focus.

I actually think it's the right move to give Kaepernick another game, in order to build a slightly larger performance sample size and see how he reacts to playing a team currently brimming with confidence on the road in a reasonably tough place to play as a visitor. You have Alex Smith available to switch back to in the case of Kaepernick proving unready (though I think if you switch back to Smith, that has to be the final change of the year to avoid really creating a mess and possibly damaging credibility).

If Kaepernick has another great game, then it's probably worth betting on his talent for the remainder of the season, even in a season where things already looked pretty good. Winning a Super Bowl is hard, everything has to fall into place...in some sense, playing every upside risk is a worthwhile strategy because you have to beat the odds no matter who you are. When your mean expected result value is below your ultimate goal, increasing volatility can make sense, as it gives you a few more possible results in the range that meets your goal. (Of course, it also gives you a few more possible results in the wash-out range...but if you consider anything short of winning a title as a failure, those extra disaster possibilities are somewhat irrelevant.)

As I said, though, I'm surprised that Harbaugh isn't playing the easy extra-time-off card as a pretext. However, if that would be a lie, maybe it builds credibility for him in the locker room to play it straight. Armchair psychological analysis is easy and usually useless, so I'll just focus on the football side: I think it's the right move to start Kaepernick against the Saints and evaluate again after that game.

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Posted: 11/21/2012 10:21 PM

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I just have a hard time accepting a QB change given that this team would be 8-2 if Smith had not gotten hurt. If the Niners were .500, I would totally be in favor of it.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 10:36 PM

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This true Alex Smith territory, "Just can't seem to get a break!"  

I look at it this way, CK would need more time to prepare than Alex Smith who has experience against the Saints.  With CK prepared, Harbaugh will have 2 QBs prepared to take on the Saints.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 10:44 PM

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CK starting against the Saints, I get it. Harbaugh supposedly saying that the move is not health related, wow, just wow. I like Alex but I like winning more, so if Harbaugh feels CK is our best chance to win then I support the move. I guess we could always switch back to Alex if CK lays an egg in New Orleans, but I really don't want to see a QB shuffle like when Troy and Alex were in and out of the lineup.

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised about this. After being in Smith's corner all of last year, Harbaugh was ready to dump Smith for Manning. He went into damage control mode and said the 49ers were just looking into it after Peyton chose Denver, but we all knew Harbaugh wanted him. I fully supported signing Peyton (he's havign an amazing season) but that's because I could look at a HOF body of work. With CK, he only has 54 passes to his name.

I guess the bottom line is Harbaugh and Roman have seen him every day in practice to go with his limited game experience. Sunday's game is going to be awesome. New Orleans is easily one of the toughest places to play for opposing teams. Aside from getting over .500 for the 1st time, they are thinking payback. I can't wait for Sunday!excited


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Posted: 11/21/2012 11:00 PM

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The question is, will this destroy Alex's confidence for good? He finally gets a competent coach who believes in him. He produces at a high level, and then the carpet gets yanked out from underneath him. If the CK experiment fails and Alex gets put back in, there's a decent chance that he may never, ever be the same. Now you could argue that Alex is a pro and that pros shouldn't have fragile mental makeups, but we're in a position to win a Super Bowl here.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 11:02 PM

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Question for all of you. If Brees and the Saints put it on you.. (like you did the bears, but not to that extent because their defense isn't as good as yours lol) but beat you handily, how many of are you are going to upset with Harbaugh for this decision. Not being a dbag, just honestly curious. Because it's exactly what I predicted on the Bears forums when doing predictions. I think the hot saints pull it out and win at home . Game is going to be fun to watch. I am fan of neither. Don't like/dislike either team , yet I am excited to watch this game. (also pumped to watch packers and giants.

So what's going to happen if you guys get beat. Will you want Alex back next week , or will want a longer leash for CK?
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Posted: 11/21/2012 11:04 PM

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Never been the biggest Alex fan over his career, but his mental toughness, class, and leadership over the last two years has changed my opinion.  The guy is 19-5 over the last two years.  I trust Harbaugh and believe in him, but definitely have mixed feelings about this....cautiously optimistic.  As electric as Kaep was on Monday, it's not a huge body of work and the Saints will have time to game plan for him.  Feel bad for Alex, but what I have learned about him throughout his tenure with SF is he is extremely resilient and the all the crap seems to bounce off him which is a credit to his character.   Alex will handle this with class as usual.  Man I hope this works out.  Just not sure how much more crap Alex can take? 

Maybe everything is fine and nothing will change but the niner's vertical passing game...biggrin.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 11:10 PM

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Today is Wednesday, Smith hasn't been cleared, someone has to take the reps.  I imagine there won't be practice tomorrow and Smith wont get cleared until Friday?, Kaep gets the preperation for Sunday.

  Weird headline with no quotes from Smith or Harbaugh.  I don't doubt that Kaep may start but I'd like to hear Harbaugh or Smith confirm what was said.    noidea


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_...ding-alex-smith


A little more info.

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Posted: 11/21/2012 11:49 PM

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For me, it is hard to see CK starting if Alex Smith is healthy.  This isn't like a mid 2000's where it is QB musical chairs.  The Niners went into this season with the QB position fortified in Alex Smith.

As much as I want CK to succeed, I don't feel this is the right time heading down the stretch.  I give him props for having an awesome game but his time will come.  Right now, Alex Smith is the veteran starter and only getting better.   The QB situation has to be settled in the off season.

Repeating the same question from earlier:  Is something wrong with a 6-2-1 record with an "X" marked on it's back so bad to merit a QB change?  Is Alex Smith so horrible enough to replace?

If Harbaugh does start CK over a healthy Alex Smith, I think that would be a gamble on Harbaugh's part and I hope he can repeat that performance again!

Don't get me wrong, I am excited about what CK did and feel that he could be the future but the Niners are going into their last 6 games with a 1.5 game lead.
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Posted: 11/22/2012 2:31 AM

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Feel bad for Alex here... just when he starts looking really really good as a QB he gets concussed and CK comes in and looks better.... after what he has went through in getting to this position here all the OC's and defensive coaches he finally gets comfortable and then CK has a breakout game...
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Posted: 11/22/2012 4:02 AM

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This is horrible for Smith. YOu just can't lose your job with how well he has been playing.

This is the first time I have questioned Harbaughs judgement.

I believe in CK but this is just not right.
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