CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The holdup on Brandon Weeden's contract -- and that of the three players picked behind him -- is a fully guaranteed contract for all four years, league sources said today.

It's the same issue that caused Browns defensive tackle Phil Taylor, the No. 21 overall pick last year, to hold out for the first four days of training camp.

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Florio`s take on the situation

Weeden’s desire to emerge with a full four-year guarantee could be tied to the team’s sudden ambivalence toward quarterback Colt McCoy, a third-rounder in 2010 who could end up after only two seasons being cut, if he isn’t traded.  If Weeden fails to show within three years that he can play at a high level, the team likely wouldn’t hesitate to get rid of him — especially if his fourth-year pay isn’t fully guaranteed.

Then there’s the reality that, if Weeden can’t get it done, the current coaching staff and front office possibly will be gone, making it even more likely that the next coach would want a different quarterback.

http://profootballtalk.nbcspor...four-year-deal/

begby wrote: 

Maybe the NFL would hire me since I am on my 3rd year of unemployment to be one of the speakers at the rookie seminar. On second thought no, they won't hear the message cuz they know they are getting theirs even if they can't do their job.

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote: 

Maybe the NFL would hire me since I am on my 3rd year of unemployment to be one of the speakers at the rookie seminar. On second thought no, they won't hear the message cuz they know they are getting theirs even if they can't do their job.

Unemployment for 3 years is ridiculous. The fact you can collect unemployment for 3 years is even more ridiculous. 
Its what the law allows because of the state of the economy. 

I guarantee the minute the government cuts off your unemployment, you'll get a job. 
And I can guarantee once my 3rd year is up I'll have sent out CV/interviewed for the 200th job with the same results: i am too experienced at exhibition production (which by the way, in business speak means I won't be given the chance to request a competitive salary) and the other is I lack the requisite teaching experience, which I don't.

Weeden isn't the problem, people like you milking unemployment for 3 years is a much bigger problem. Weeden has a job. He's just negotiating.
I wouldn't go that far junior. The last full time job I had was with a name brand museum that newly opened a satellite space in Manhattan. It folded in a year. During the interview process i was asked why us? I said because you are an institution that will always be and I wasn't looking for a 3 year stint. They assured me contracts were in place for the lease of the space and the artifacts and if one partner tries getting out they can't, they will be sued. Didn't matter. I am the kind of unemployment milker that will go on a moments notice via public transportation for an hour, clean some artifacts for 40 minutes, get paid for an hour, take public trans for an hour back home and when it comes time to claim weekly benefits will admit I worked an hour (which by their rules is a days worth a of work) and lose a days worth of unemployment pay to collect a check for $27 bucks.
And by the way, why are you so enraged about my former employer having to pay my rent and food bill for 1/2 a year? You're not. Do some reading before you lip off about something.

begby wrote:

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote: 

Maybe the NFL would hire me since I am on my 3rd year of unemployment to be one of the speakers at the rookie seminar. On second thought no, they won't hear the message cuz they know they are getting theirs even if they can't do their job.

Unemployment for 3 years is ridiculous. The fact you can collect unemployment for 3 years is even more ridiculous. 
Its what the law allows because of the state of the economy. 

I guarantee the minute the government cuts off your unemployment, you'll get a job. 
And I can guarantee once my 3rd year is up I'll have sent out CV/interviewed for the 200th job with the same results: i am too experienced at exhibition production (which by the way, in business speak means I won't be given the chance to request a competitive salary) and the other is I lack the requisite teaching experience, which I don't.

Weeden isn't the problem, people like you milking unemployment for 3 years is a much bigger problem. Weeden has a job. He's just negotiating.
I wouldn't go that far junior. The last full time job I had was with a name brand museum that newly opened a satellite space in Manhattan. It folded in a year. During the interview process i was asked why us? I said because you are an institution that will always be and I wasn't looking for a 3 year stint. They assured me contracts were in place for the lease of the space and the artifacts and if one partner tries getting out they can't, they will be sued. Didn't matter. I am the kind of unemployment milker that will go on a moments notice via public transportation for an hour, clean some artifacts for 40 minutes, get paid for an hour, take public trans for an hour back home and when it comes time to claim weekly benefits will admit I worked an hour (which by their rules is a days worth a of work) and lose a days worth of unemployment pay to collect a check for $27 bucks.
And by the way, why are you so enraged about my former employer having to pay my rent and food bill for 1/2 a year? You're not. Do some reading before you lip off about something.

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote:

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote: 

Maybe the NFL would hire me since I am on my 3rd year of unemployment to be one of the speakers at the rookie seminar. On second thought no, they won't hear the message cuz they know they are getting theirs even if they can't do their job.

Unemployment for 3 years is ridiculous. The fact you can collect unemployment for 3 years is even more ridiculous. 
Its what the law allows because of the state of the economy. 

I guarantee the minute the government cuts off your unemployment, you'll get a job. 
And I can guarantee once my 3rd year is up I'll have sent out CV/interviewed for the 200th job with the same results: i am too experienced at exhibition production (which by the way, in business speak means I won't be given the chance to request a competitive salary) and the other is I lack the requisite teaching experience, which I don't.

Weeden isn't the problem, people like you milking unemployment for 3 years is a much bigger problem. Weeden has a job. He's just negotiating.
I wouldn't go that far junior. The last full time job I had was with a name brand museum that newly opened a satellite space in Manhattan. It folded in a year. During the interview process i was asked why us? I said because you are an institution that will always be and I wasn't looking for a 3 year stint. They assured me contracts were in place for the lease of the space and the artifacts and if one partner tries getting out they can't, they will be sued. Didn't matter. I am the kind of unemployment milker that will go on a moments notice via public transportation for an hour, clean some artifacts for 40 minutes, get paid for an hour, take public trans for an hour back home and when it comes time to claim weekly benefits will admit I worked an hour (which by their rules is a days worth a of work) and lose a days worth of unemployment pay to collect a check for $27 bucks.
And by the way, why are you so enraged about my former employer having to pay my rent and food bill for 1/2 a year? You're not. Do some reading before you lip off about something.

So it's not that you CAN'T find employment, it's that the government has granted you the power to be lazy and not take a job unless it meets your standards. 

That's the problem with the unemployment system. It doesn't promote getting a job, it promotes people being lazy, making excuses and soaking up government checks. 

Our economy would instantly improve if we stopped paying unemployment. Lazy people would be forced to get a job. Ditto for welfare and nonsense disability claims. 

Sounds to me like you are part of a long list of lazy people in this country who want a paycheck, not a job or not to EARN a living. 

Enjoy your welfare/unemployment while it lasts. All of us out here earning and growing our businesses are glad our taxes are being wasted so soundly.

Your laziness makes your signature all that more comical.

begby wrote:

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote:

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote: 

Maybe the NFL would hire me since I am on my 3rd year of unemployment to be one of the speakers at the rookie seminar. On second thought no, they won't hear the message cuz they know they are getting theirs even if they can't do their job.

Unemployment for 3 years is ridiculous. The fact you can collect unemployment for 3 years is even more ridiculous. 
Its what the law allows because of the state of the economy. 

I guarantee the minute the government cuts off your unemployment, you'll get a job. 
And I can guarantee once my 3rd year is up I'll have sent out CV/interviewed for the 200th job with the same results: i am too experienced at exhibition production (which by the way, in business speak means I won't be given the chance to request a competitive salary) and the other is I lack the requisite teaching experience, which I don't.

Weeden isn't the problem, people like you milking unemployment for 3 years is a much bigger problem. Weeden has a job. He's just negotiating.
I wouldn't go that far junior. The last full time job I had was with a name brand museum that newly opened a satellite space in Manhattan. It folded in a year. During the interview process i was asked why us? I said because you are an institution that will always be and I wasn't looking for a 3 year stint. They assured me contracts were in place for the lease of the space and the artifacts and if one partner tries getting out they can't, they will be sued. Didn't matter. I am the kind of unemployment milker that will go on a moments notice via public transportation for an hour, clean some artifacts for 40 minutes, get paid for an hour, take public trans for an hour back home and when it comes time to claim weekly benefits will admit I worked an hour (which by their rules is a days worth a of work) and lose a days worth of unemployment pay to collect a check for $27 bucks.
And by the way, why are you so enraged about my former employer having to pay my rent and food bill for 1/2 a year? You're not. Do some reading before you lip off about something.

So it's not that you CAN'T find employment, it's that the government has granted you the power to be lazy and not take a job unless it meets your standards. 

That's the problem with the unemployment system. It doesn't promote getting a job, it promotes people being lazy, making excuses and soaking up government checks. 

Our economy would instantly improve if we stopped paying unemployment. Lazy people would be forced to get a job. Ditto for welfare and nonsense disability claims. 

Sounds to me like you are part of a long list of lazy people in this country who want a paycheck, not a job or not to EARN a living. 

Enjoy your welfare/unemployment while it lasts. All of us out here earning and growing our businesses are glad our taxes are being wasted so soundly.

Your laziness makes your signature all that more comical.

Again, read about where the unemployment funds come from. Mine? Not from you.
Remaining unemployed isn't a choice I made. There are hundreds of places that made that choice for me, internet tough guy.
The level of ignorant thinking that the worst the economy has been since 29' is based just on laziness is staggering.
Its a wonder you can type with your head so deep in the sand. or is it up your a$$hole?

ahrncitypahnder wrote: 5 star thread guys, keep up the great work.

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote:

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote:

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote: 

Maybe the NFL would hire me since I am on my 3rd year of unemployment to be one of the speakers at the rookie seminar. On second thought no, they won't hear the message cuz they know they are getting theirs even if they can't do their job.

Unemployment for 3 years is ridiculous. The fact you can collect unemployment for 3 years is even more ridiculous. 
Its what the law allows because of the state of the economy. 

I guarantee the minute the government cuts off your unemployment, you'll get a job. 
And I can guarantee once my 3rd year is up I'll have sent out CV/interviewed for the 200th job with the same results: i am too experienced at exhibition production (which by the way, in business speak means I won't be given the chance to request a competitive salary) and the other is I lack the requisite teaching experience, which I don't.

Weeden isn't the problem, people like you milking unemployment for 3 years is a much bigger problem. Weeden has a job. He's just negotiating.
I wouldn't go that far junior. The last full time job I had was with a name brand museum that newly opened a satellite space in Manhattan. It folded in a year. During the interview process i was asked why us? I said because you are an institution that will always be and I wasn't looking for a 3 year stint. They assured me contracts were in place for the lease of the space and the artifacts and if one partner tries getting out they can't, they will be sued. Didn't matter. I am the kind of unemployment milker that will go on a moments notice via public transportation for an hour, clean some artifacts for 40 minutes, get paid for an hour, take public trans for an hour back home and when it comes time to claim weekly benefits will admit I worked an hour (which by their rules is a days worth a of work) and lose a days worth of unemployment pay to collect a check for $27 bucks.
And by the way, why are you so enraged about my former employer having to pay my rent and food bill for 1/2 a year? You're not. Do some reading before you lip off about something.

So it's not that you CAN'T find employment, it's that the government has granted you the power to be lazy and not take a job unless it meets your standards. 

That's the problem with the unemployment system. It doesn't promote getting a job, it promotes people being lazy, making excuses and soaking up government checks. 

Our economy would instantly improve if we stopped paying unemployment. Lazy people would be forced to get a job. Ditto for welfare and nonsense disability claims. 

Sounds to me like you are part of a long list of lazy people in this country who want a paycheck, not a job or not to EARN a living. 

Enjoy your welfare/unemployment while it lasts. All of us out here earning and growing our businesses are glad our taxes are being wasted so soundly.

Your laziness makes your signature all that more comical.

Again, read about where the unemployment funds come from. Mine? Not from you.
Remaining unemployed isn't a choice I made. There are hundreds of places that made that choice for me, internet tough guy.
The level of ignorant thinking that the worst the economy has been since 29' is based just on laziness is staggering.
Its a wonder you can type with your head so deep in the sand. or is it up your a$$hole?

Never said the economy was based on lazy people like yourself who feel too proud to take a job beneath them. 

I said it would instantly improve if the lazy people like yourself were no longer receiving handouts as you would likely quickly take a job you wouldn't have with checks rolling in weekly or bi-weekly. Ditto for those on welfare. 

Make unemployment 3 months max and welfare 2 years max per lifetime and this country would be in a far better state. 

Unemployment for 3 years is just an enabler for lazy people. Post again and prove me more correct. I'm out. People like you make me sick!

begby wrote:

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote:

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote:

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote: 

Maybe the NFL would hire me since I am on my 3rd year of unemployment to be one of the speakers at the rookie seminar. On second thought no, they won't hear the message cuz they know they are getting theirs even if they can't do their job.

Unemployment for 3 years is ridiculous. The fact you can collect unemployment for 3 years is even more ridiculous. 
Its what the law allows because of the state of the economy. 

I guarantee the minute the government cuts off your unemployment, you'll get a job. 
And I can guarantee once my 3rd year is up I'll have sent out CV/interviewed for the 200th job with the same results: i am too experienced at exhibition production (which by the way, in business speak means I won't be given the chance to request a competitive salary) and the other is I lack the requisite teaching experience, which I don't.

Weeden isn't the problem, people like you milking unemployment for 3 years is a much bigger problem. Weeden has a job. He's just negotiating.
I wouldn't go that far junior. The last full time job I had was with a name brand museum that newly opened a satellite space in Manhattan. It folded in a year. During the interview process i was asked why us? I said because you are an institution that will always be and I wasn't looking for a 3 year stint. They assured me contracts were in place for the lease of the space and the artifacts and if one partner tries getting out they can't, they will be sued. Didn't matter. I am the kind of unemployment milker that will go on a moments notice via public transportation for an hour, clean some artifacts for 40 minutes, get paid for an hour, take public trans for an hour back home and when it comes time to claim weekly benefits will admit I worked an hour (which by their rules is a days worth a of work) and lose a days worth of unemployment pay to collect a check for $27 bucks.
And by the way, why are you so enraged about my former employer having to pay my rent and food bill for 1/2 a year? You're not. Do some reading before you lip off about something.

So it's not that you CAN'T find employment, it's that the government has granted you the power to be lazy and not take a job unless it meets your standards. 

That's the problem with the unemployment system. It doesn't promote getting a job, it promotes people being lazy, making excuses and soaking up government checks. 

Our economy would instantly improve if we stopped paying unemployment. Lazy people would be forced to get a job. Ditto for welfare and nonsense disability claims. 

Sounds to me like you are part of a long list of lazy people in this country who want a paycheck, not a job or not to EARN a living. 

Enjoy your welfare/unemployment while it lasts. All of us out here earning and growing our businesses are glad our taxes are being wasted so soundly.

Your laziness makes your signature all that more comical.

Again, read about where the unemployment funds come from. Mine? Not from you.
Remaining unemployed isn't a choice I made. There are hundreds of places that made that choice for me, internet tough guy.
The level of ignorant thinking that the worst the economy has been since 29' is based just on laziness is staggering.
Its a wonder you can type with your head so deep in the sand. or is it up your a$$hole?

Never said the economy was based on lazy people like yourself who feel too proud to take a job beneath them. 

I said it would instantly improve if the lazy people like yourself were no longer receiving handouts as you would likely quickly take a job you wouldn't have with checks rolling in weekly or bi-weekly. Ditto for those on welfare. 

Make unemployment 3 months max and welfare 2 years max per lifetime and this country would be in a far better state. 

Unemployment for 3 years is just an enabler for lazy people. Post again and prove me more correct. I'm out. People like you make me sick!

Maybe your head got stuck in the couch looking for your remote, i don't know.

December 2007, the United States officially entered its worst economic recession since the Great Depression. By March 2009, an additional 5.1 million Americans had lost their jobs leaving more than 13 million workers unemployed. The national unemployment rate stood at 8.5 percent and rising. By the end of March 2009, an average of 656,750 Americans a week were turning in their first-ever applications for unemployment compensation. Where does the money to pay those benefits come from? How does unemployment compensation work?

Defense Against Economic Despair

The federal-state unemployment compensation (UC) program was created as part of the Social Security Act of 1935, in response to the Great Depression. Millions of people who had lost their jobs were unable to buy goods and services, which just led to more layoffs. Sound familiar? Today, unemployment compensation represents the first and perhaps last line of defense against the ripple effect of joblessness. Then intention of the program is to provide eligible, unemployed workers with a weekly income adequate to allow them to afford the necessities of life, including food, shelter and clothing while they look for new jobs.

But don't let this information challenge your judgement based, cable TV absorbing life, couch potato.

I know you don't actually say anything, you judge based on nothing but lazy assumptions. God help you if you ever lose what you have.

kentw wrote: With unemployment at 8%+, sure Steelerect must be right; businesses are hiring nationwide. It's just all these lazy Americans who cause unemployment stats to be so high.

I have no idea whether begby is lazy or industrious, but neither does steelerect. Rather than showing some kind of humanity towards a person who has been trying to find employment, steelerect instead assumes he's lazy. Well, begby can't be any more lazy that steelerect is uninformed and mean-spirited. But I am impressed with how tough steelerect must be: strong body, weak mind?

What any of this hasds to do with the Steelers, I can't fathom.

Maybe your head got stuck in the couch looking for your remote, i don't know.

December 2007, the United States officially entered its worst economic recession since the Great Depression. By March 2009, an additional 5.1 million Americans had lost their jobs leaving more than 13 million workers unemployed. The national unemployment rate stood at 8.5 percent and rising. By the end of March 2009, an average of 656,750 Americans a week were turning in their first-ever applications for unemployment compensation. Where does the money to pay those benefits come from? How does unemployment compensation work?

Defense Against Economic Despair

The federal-state unemployment compensation (UC) program was created as part of the Social Security Act of 1935, in response to the Great Depression. Millions of people who had lost their jobs were unable to buy goods and services, which just led to more layoffs. Sound familiar? Today, unemployment compensation represents the first and perhaps last line of defense against the ripple effect of joblessness. Then intention of the program is to provide eligible, unemployed workers with a weekly income adequate to allow them to afford the necessities of life, including food, shelter and clothing while they look for new jobs.

But don't let this information challenge your judgement based, cable TV absorbing life, couch potato.

I know you don't actually say anything, you judge based on nothing but lazy assumptions. God help you if you ever lose what you have.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. Businesses are hiring nationwide. The problem with people like you is the government has enabled you to be lazy and you have taken it hook, line and sinker. 

If you can walk, talk and aren't a complete loser, you could have a job next week. Granted, someone might not hand you a check. You may actually have to "earn" your worth, something you clearly are unfamiliar. 

It's okay though, blame the unemployment, me, other people, economy, etc. It's what lazy people do. 

What is funniest is, anyone smart who does hiring for a living(like myself) wouldn't touch you as they see you have "chosen" to sit home and collect instead of take a job they may have to earn or they may feel is "beneath" them. Who wants lazy people working for them? Certainly not me. I delete resume's like yours constantly. 

You want a paycheck, not a job. Your laziness is already proven for well over 2 years. Hope you have a lot of money saved because nobody smart enough to count to 10 would hire you. Too many people who want to work and want to earn that haven't sat on their behind for years making excuses. Those people are now working while people like you are stuck sitting at home making excuses. 

You have become nothing but a drag on the economy. Keep blaming others but the problem is you, your laziness and the government that has enabled your laziness.

begby wrote:
Its obvious you are awful at your job. Even in your job you are judging people in an ignorant way. People who collect unemployment are lazy and a drag on the economy and you won't hire them because of that? Way to lend a helping hand.

I'm not about lending a helping hand. I'm about providing opportunities for those that want them. You clearly don't. 

You've never seen my resume and you don't know my background. And I would sniff you out in a second during an interview and leave. People like you think you leave what you are at work at the end of the day but you don't magically leave what it is about you behind at the end of the day. Its always with you because it is you. You probably think you are respected at work because it seems people do. Don't fool yourself. They HAVE to keep that appearance up.

I don't care if I am respected. I care about results. Those that achieve the results get paid very very well. Those that don't get let go. 

I have worked more than I have collected over the past 2 years, but don't let that keep you from your self-righteous indignation.

But you said above you will soon be on your 3rd year of unemployment. Changing your story now?

There are whole families, rendered homeless for a while during the transition from being laid off to welfare. Why welfare? Unemployment can't cover their rent and feed their families. They are a drag on the economy? Its pathetic and delusional you think people less fortunate, are less than you.
Its obvious you don't understand cause and effect. Your insulated, corporate hind teet dependent head is stuck where it is unwilling to educate yourself. So keep being sick of people like me and really, really be done with this, this time.

Steelerect wrote:

begby wrote:
Its obvious you are awful at your job. Even in your job you are judging people in an ignorant way. People who collect unemployment are lazy and a drag on the economy and you won't hire them because of that? Way to lend a helping hand.

I'm not about lending a helping hand. I'm about providing opportunities for those that want them. You clearly don't. 

You've never seen my resume and you don't know my background. And I would sniff you out in a second during an interview and leave. People like you think you leave what you are at work at the end of the day but you don't magically leave what it is about you behind at the end of the day. Its always with you because it is you. You probably think you are respected at work because it seems people do. Don't fool yourself. They HAVE to keep that appearance up.

I don't care if I am respected. I care about results. Those that achieve the results get paid very very well. Those that don't get let go. 

I have worked more than I have collected over the past 2 years, but don't let that keep you from your self-righteous indignation.

But you said above you will soon be on your 3rd year of unemployment. Changing your story now?

There are whole families, rendered homeless for a while during the transition from being laid off to welfare. Why welfare? Unemployment can't cover their rent and feed their families. They are a drag on the economy? Its pathetic and delusional you think people less fortunate, are less than you.
Its obvious you don't understand cause and effect. Your insulated, corporate hind teet dependent head is stuck where it is unwilling to educate yourself. So keep being sick of people like me and really, really be done with this, this time.

I came from nothing and those that want an opportunity with me get one. I'm not insulated and I am the farthest thing from corporate that you could find. I'm just motivated, creative and didn't take unemployment as an excuse to be lazy. I created a living from an opportunity, like many do with me. 

I guarantee  you wouldn't take a job with me as it isn't a salaried position, where you can be lazy and collect your Friday checks. If you produce, you earn with me. My top producers make over $250k a year. None of it salary. You wouldn't have to sniff me out as you would never get a second interview.