spikes is suspended by his coach for 1/2 game for eye gouging an oppenant and the SEC will not address it.  What a JOkE  I can't wait to see how the SEC's biggest schill will spin this, go for it ESPN.

typical, what do you expect from schools that have majors in long haul trucking and waffle house waitressing, not that there is anything wrong with those professions...

 just it doesn't usually take people 4 years to learn how to do them without actually doing them

its the funniest thing about how much the media fluffs tebow, talking about him circumsizing third world children and so on...the fact they need to go to such lengths to pronounce the exception, proves the rule.

its Vanderbelt, he should be suspended for, at least, an entire game.

The worst part is the SEC 'accepting' or 'agreeing' with Florida's decision.

It is a joke.

fellasheowed wrote:

typical, what do you expect from schools that have majors in long haul trucking and waffle house waitressing, not that there is anything wrong with those professions...

 

 just it doesn't usually take people 4 years to learn how to do them without actually doing them

 

 

its the funniest thing about how much the media fluffs tebow, talking about him circumsizing third world children and so on...the fact they need to go to such lengths to pronounce the exception, proves the rule.

alot of people go to college for 7 years.   Yeah they're called doctor's.

Tebow is nothing without that dive option play.  I want to see him actually run a real offense not run that stupid dive option every 3 out of 5 plays.

BettisFromDetroit wrote: that is typical urban meyer...arrogant ahole. what makes Spikes even a bigger coward for the incident is the fact he wears a shield on his helmet. you'd think a player that is aware of the dangers of eye injuries to the point he'd wear the shield, would be decent enough to respect a competittor. Spikes is a coward and would make a good Raven.

I agree that it should be at least a 1 game suspension. However, the UGA player was taking tons of shots against Spikes during the entire game. The UGA RB ripped Spikes helmet off after a play. He also put his hand underneath Spike's facemask and face shield and tried to poke his eyes earlier in the game. He also chop blocked Spikes on a couple of plays.

It does not make Spike's actions, ok, but it just shows that these things go both ways.

fellasheowed wrote:

typical, what do you expect from schools that have majors in long haul trucking and waffle house waitressing, not that there is anything wrong with those professions...

 

 just it doesn't usually take people 4 years to learn how to do them without actually doing them

 

 

its the funniest thing about how much the media fluffs tebow, talking about him circumsizing third world children and so on...the fact they need to go to such lengths to pronounce the exception, proves the rule.

The funny thing about your post is that the University of Florida is higher rated in academics than your beloved PITT and it is tied as the 47th best University in America with PENN STATE. So much for your COWTOWN references.

http://colleges.usnews.ranking...rankings/page+2

littleducecoupe wrote:

spikes is suspended by his coach for 1/2 game for eye gouging an oppenant and the SEC will not address it.  What a JOkE  I can't wait to see how the SEC's biggest schill will spin this, go for it ESPN.

I agree Meyer should do more in the Spikes case, but what about your boy Joe Pa????

"the mystery of how Paterno allowed a defensive back named Anwar Phillips to play in the Capital One Bowl on Jan. 1, three weeks after his expulsion from the university following sexual-assault allegations."

Pot this is Kettle.......Kettle this is Pot!!

the key word is allegation.  spikes did the infraction and there is video to prove it.  to my knowledge anwar was never proven guilty and you refused to mention the other 23 arrests that BFD made reference to.  please don't look to espn witch hunt for allegations paterno has disciplined player and if you wanna go on a witch hunt I'm off on friday and will gladly spend my day digging up charges and allegations into players from any program and i'm sure that 85% of the programs have more history than PSU. 

It was a chippy game, and UGA made it that way. They came in trying to out-tough the Gators and the game got ugly. I think it's pretty hypocritical to just decry Spikes' actions when he took multiple cheap shots from Bulldog players and another Gator nearly had his neck snapped by a vicious facemask out of bounds on a kick return.

Nobody is complaining that UGA isn't suspending any of their players that were guilty of those infractions. It's just so much easier to take the cheap shot at the champions and claim they are dirty. Everybody hates a winner. 

I saw this quickly on ESPN, but I don't know what happened.  Can someone fill me in?

littleducecoupe wrote:

the key word is allegation.  spikes did the infraction and there is video to prove it.  to my knowledge anwar was never proven guilty and you refused to mention the other 23 arrests that BFD made reference to.  please don't look to espn witch hunt for allegations paterno has disciplined player and if you wanna go on a witch hunt I'm off on friday and will gladly spend my day digging up charges and allegations into players from any program and i'm sure that 85% of the programs have more history than PSU. 

Dude....I actually respect the way Joe Pa has always run his team, but your the one b1tching about Spikes. When I bring up the fact that Joe Pa looked the other way with a player that WAS EXPELLED FROM PSU, you lose your mind. Fact is Joe Pa either "did not know" and I have NO idea how a coach does not know that a player has been EXPELLED or Joe Pa looked the other way. Either way, it is a bad mark on a guy that for most of his coaching tenure has been known to run a squeaky clean program.

In the last 15 years, PSU has had many players arrested etc. So, don't act like Joe Pa is the POPE and the PSU football program is the Vatican.  I think this is more of a reflection of society as a whole than on a particular coach or football program.

As for the 24 arrests of Gator players, ALL of them were suspended and MOST of them kicked off the team. Not to mention, most of these infractions came from players that RON ZOOK recruited. Meyer inherited a great number of these "bad apples" and he had to deal with them.

ReversePass wrote:

It was a chippy game, and UGA made it that way. They came in trying to out-tough the Gators and the game got ugly. I think it's pretty hypocritical to just decry Spikes' actions when he took multiple cheap shots from Bulldog players and another Gator nearly had his neck snapped by a vicious facemask out of bounds on a kick return.

 

Nobody is complaining that UGA isn't suspending any of their players that were guilty of those infractions. It's just so much easier to take the cheap shot at the champions and claim they are dirty. Everybody hates a winner. 

WINNER....WINNER...CHICKEN DINNER!!!!

+1000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnPj3aeAzZU

(another Bulldog had been penalized earlier for pulling up on Spikes' hair so hard his helmet came off)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDvFbD7wIAg

SteelGators wrote:

 

littleducecoupe wrote:

the key word is allegation.  spikes did the infraction and there is video to prove it.  to my knowledge anwar was never proven guilty and you refused to mention the other 23 arrests that BFD made reference to.  please don't look to espn witch hunt for allegations paterno has disciplined player and if you wanna go on a witch hunt I'm off on friday and will gladly spend my day digging up charges and allegations into players from any program and i'm sure that 85% of the programs have more history than PSU. 

Dude....I actually respect the way Joe Pa has always run his team, but your the one b1tching about Spikes. When I bring up the fact that Joe Pa looked the other way with a player that WAS EXPELLED FROM PSU, you lose your mind. Fact is Joe Pa either "did not know" and I have NO idea how a coach does not know that a player has been EXPELLED or Joe Pa looked the other way. Either way, it is a bad mark on a guy that for most of his coaching tenure has been known to run a squeaky clean program.

 

In the last 15 years, PSU has had many players arrested etc. So, don't act like Joe Pa is the POPE and the PSU football program is the Vatican.  I think this is more of a reflection of society as a whole than on a particular coach or football program.

 

As for the 24 arrests of Gator players, ALL of them were suspended and MOST of them kicked off the team. Not to mention, most of these infractions came from players that RON ZOOK recruited. Meyer inherited a great number of these "bad apples" and he had to deal with them.

I didn't lose my mind i simply stated that espn went on a witch hunt and I can easily find evidence of much worse from other "respected" programs.  I never said nor do I believe PSU is squeeky clean, by relative standards it is spotless however that is another matter.  I cannot and will not expect coaches to control these kids at all times, facts are facts most of these kids are from communities with no or little law and order and social norms most of this board cannot begin to understand(I have some limited insight as I work in a ghetto with gangbangers).  the fact is meyer could make a statement but refused he suspended a player for half a game against vandy none the less.  You may also want to fact check.  Phillips was not expelled until Feb.  the 4.  an entire month after the cap. one bowl he expelled for the sping and summer semesters.

SteelGators wrote:

 

fellasheowed wrote:

typical, what do you expect from schools that have majors in long haul trucking and waffle house waitressing, not that there is anything wrong with those professions...

 

 just it doesn't usually take people 4 years to learn how to do them without actually doing them

 

 

its the funniest thing about how much the media fluffs tebow, talking about him circumsizing third world children and so on...the fact they need to go to such lengths to pronounce the exception, proves the rule.

The funny thing about your post is that the University of Florida is higher rated in academics than your beloved PITT and it is tied as the 47th best University in America with PENN STATE. So much for your COWTOWN references.

 

http://colleges.usnews.ranking...rankings/page+2

us news and world report rankings? i guess that is what a southern education yields as far as definitive proof....not that even your best shot shows much, even if taken at its most superficial, which is i'm sure the only way it could have been intended...

hysterical....but don't take my word for it...

It's a given that the SHYMP schools -- Stanford, Harvard, Yale, MIT and Princeton -- will make the Top 10 in these rankings. The order in which they are found, however, mysteriously shifts around from year to year. Other less well-known schools move up and down more dramatically. There is no rational basis for any of this. Yet every year, 94 percent of institutions bow down to U.S. News by dutifully filling out its detailed questionnaires in a quest, however remote, for a high ranking.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/...0#ixzz0VovPGJEb

There are really three broad components that make or break an institution in media-based rankings: 1) its wealth; 2) how well it uses that wealth to establish its scholarly reputation; 3) and its ability to keep students pleased about their college experience. In essence the media is saying that the quality of a university depends more upon its endowment than anything else.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/...0#ixzz0VoveHnT6

so in otherwords, as long as espn shows up every so often, and the students get to make clever signs about tebow, herbstreet, or corso, the academic reputation of the university of florida shall be impeccable

College rankings are mostly about money

a further contemplation on the matter

The Best, The Top, The Most - The New York Times

and even more:

The principal weakness of the current approach is that the weights used to combine the various measures into an overall rating lack any defensible empirical or theoretical basis.

The NORC Report on U.S. News and World Report

now do you root for other sec schools in the rankings too, like you do in revenue sports?

SteelGators wrote:  

As for the 24 arrests of Gator players, ALL of them were suspended and MOST of them kicked off the team. Not to mention, most of these infractions came from players that RON ZOOK recruited. Meyer inherited a great number of these "bad apples" and he had to deal with them.

for those not living in florida and exposed daily to florida fan on talk radio and in sports bars....this is typical of them. every negative thing about gator football is blamed on zook, despite the fact he been gone for 4 years now. All these player arrests that were zook recruits seemed to be better citizens off the field while he was there.  Seemed they didnt get into trouble till they were under the watch of urban meyer.

BettisFromDetroit wrote:

 

SteelGators wrote:  

As for the 24 arrests of Gator players, ALL of them were suspended and MOST of them kicked off the team. Not to mention, most of these infractions came from players that RON ZOOK recruited. Meyer inherited a great number of these "bad apples" and he had to deal with them.

for those not living in florida and exposed daily to florida fan on talk radio and in sports bars....this is typical of them. every negative thing about gator football is blamed on zook, despite the fact he been gone for 4 years now. All these player arrests that were zook recruits seemed to be better citizens off the field while he was there.  Seemed they didnt get into trouble till they were under the watch of urban meyer.

worked that way at the U too every previous coach was the reason for the multiple arrests and typically thuggish behavior.  So long the SEC has Espn to schill for them all is good in the SEC  the best confernce in the whole damned universe.  go UF  cause charleston southern, troy, FIU and vandy are sooooooooooooo tough.

I think the problem with this whole thing is the length of the suspension.  I would almost believe if there were no suspension, people would be taking it different.

We are fooling ourselves if we don't think this happens every single game in almost every single scrum.  Duece Staly had his career shortened by one of these scrums, against the Pats.  He was in the bottom of the piled and someonein the pile started hitting him in his bad hammy.  He never really returned to form after that.

By suspending him for half a game, Meyer is admitting that this is wrong but at the same time sending a message that he isn't taking it seriously.

Addressing the fact that it's Vandy, it's not Urban's fault.  Would it make sense for them to let him play this game and then suspend him later in the season against a better team?  It's just the way the schedule worked out.