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Stock of players so far in camp

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Posted: 8/3/2014 11:42 AM

Stock of players so far in camp 


I'm basing this on media reads, including some excellent stuff form Steeler Depot. Which if the young players are doing well?

Stock up:

Wheaton. Tough to cover and has a high targets to catch conversion ratio.

Shazier. As advertised.

Dangerfeild. This safety doesn't get enough respect. From what I gave read he's out playing the other young safeties including Thomas . Hits a ton and is all over the place.

W. Johnson. Very capable, and versatile.

J Brown. Having a good camp. Bryant is too raw to play, even though he has more upside

Howard Jones. My pick as the best rookie free agent his raw tools are flashing ability.

Tuitt - based on reports he has big time potential.

Decastro. Could be our best OL player this season

Stock down:

Adams is having all sorts of problems. If the season started next week, I think he'd be cut

Zumwalt. Missed mini camp, and he's hurt. Can't make the club from the tub as a 6th round pick.

McCullers - too tall and slow.

Landry jones. He's awful. We need better for the third qb. We might only keep two QB's and give another player a spot if there is a really good 54th man.


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Posted: 8/3/2014 11:52 AM

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starting to hear better things about McCullers lately. he was a very late pick, and seems to be coming on slowly but surely. I have said this before, but there will be a few players(I would guess 1 or 2) that make the final cut primarily because of their potential. right now that could be McCullers and the wr Bryant. they may not be nfl players right now but will be on the 53 as "projects".
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Posted: 8/3/2014 11:57 AM

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No chance Bryant gets cut. None. 

If Jones plays good in preseason, I think he'll be the #2 and we'll trade or release Gradkowski. Saves a roster spot and money. 3rd QB on PS. 

Joel calling Jones awful is Joel being Joel. #JoelLogic. It should make us all feel better about Jones.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 11:59 AM

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Jones' YPC has been too low in camp so far. 

That said I've heard a ton of good about Bryant, and more good than bad about McCullers soooooo
Hiesenburg wrote: No chance Bryant gets cut. None. 

If Jones plays good in preseason, I think he'll be the #2 and we'll trade or release Gradkowski. Saves a roster spot and money. 3rd QB on PS. 

Joel calling Jones awful is Joel being Joel. #JoelLogic. It should make us all feel better about Jones.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 12:13 PM

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yea I have read-heard nothing but very good things the last 2 days about Bryant and McCullers


 

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Posted: 8/3/2014 12:15 PM

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JoelBushbaum wrote: I'm basing this on media reads, including some excellent stuff form Steeler Depot. Which if the young players are doing well?

Stock up:

Wheaton. Tough to cover and has a high targets to catch conversion ratio.

Shazier. As advertised.

Dangerfeild. This safety doesn't get enough respect. From what I gave read he's out playing the other young safeties including Thomas . Hits a ton and is all over the place.

W. Johnson. Very capable, and versatile.

J Brown. Having a good camp. Bryant is too raw to play, even though he has more upside

Howard Jones. My pick as the best rookie free agent his raw tools are flashing ability.

Tuitt - based on reports he has big time potential.

Decastro. Could be our best OL player this season

Stock down:

Adams is having all sorts of problems. If the season started next week, I think he'd be cut

Zumwalt. Missed mini camp, and he's hurt. Can't make the club from the tub as a 6th round pick.

McCullers - too tall and slow.

Landry jones. He's awful. We need better for the third qb. We might only keep two QB's and give another player a spot if there is a really good 54th man.
Pretty much about what I have been reading from various camp  reports from both well known sites and hard core fans who are visiting the TC.  I started doing something just like this a couple days ago.  I was compiling a list of the comments made by top writers about various players and would credit them.  But after a bit it got too tedious and I forgot about it. 

Uhh!  It will be interesting to see how these evaluations shake out.  Wonder how many of them I will agree with after finally actually seeing what these guys look like.  One thing already surprised me was the very good reports coming out of that Bleacher site.  Usually I go right past that site but this year it is very thorough and worth a look.  Apparently some of their top guys are doing Pit.  Anyway the report on Landry was very negative.  Even suggesting that the new guy had  a better grasp of things.  This surprised me. Those preseason games can't start soon enough to suit me.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 12:22 PM

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In my mind it sounds like the guys who may not be doing as well as the other guys are Mike Adams and Jarvis Jones.
It sounds like Wheaton, V. Williams, Tuitt and Will Johnson are really impressing.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 12:28 PM

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Moats-way up.

Eric waters- up til he got hurt

Branchflower, Paulson-down
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Posted: 8/3/2014 12:50 PM

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Seems like no one can cover Bryant in the red zone. The rest of his game needs work but jump balls are his strength.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 1:21 PM

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It will take a year or two for Bryant to get solid in his technique, but thats fine. He doesnt need to be more than a deep threat//endzone guy for us this year anyways.

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Posted: 8/3/2014 1:31 PM

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Posted: 8/3/2014 1:52 PM

Pat Kirwan's take on Steelers camp 


Not that there is anything earth shattering here, but he seems to be a lot more positive about the Steelers coming year.

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Posted: 8/3/2014 2:03 PM

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From pat Kirwan's review of his camp visit:

Can the offense replace the production of Jerricho Cotchery and Emmanuel Sanders? Sanders and Cotchery caught a combined 113 passes and 16 touchdowns. After visiting camp, Markus Wheaton and Lance Moore appear to be the front runners to do the job. Keep an eye on rookie Martavis Bryant who looked good in the team scrimmage and is a deep threat.


 

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Posted: 8/3/2014 2:13 PM

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He also said S Thomas is having a great camp

Seems like the team and most writers are really high on the following young/new players that will play early and often

1. Shazier
2. Tuitt
3. Archer
4. Thomas
5. Bell
6. Blount
7. Wheaton
8. Moore
9. Cam Thomas
10. McCullers


Bryant, Waters, and H Jones seems to be pushing for time in certain packages and Heyward, Worilds and Timmons are getting a lot of praise

That's a lot of new faces getting good reviews. More that I can every remember. This is turning into a whole new team very, very quickly
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Posted: 8/3/2014 2:29 PM

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Kirwan said he "heard" thomas and Justin were having great camps.


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He also said S Thomas is having a great camp

Seems like the team and most writers are really high on the following young/new players that will play early and often

1. Shazier
2. Tuitt
3. Archer
4. Thomas
5. Bell
6. Blount
7. Wheaton
8. Moore
9. Cam Thomas
10. McCullers


Bryant, Waters, and H Jones seems to be pushing for time in certain packages and Heyward, Worilds and Timmons are getting a lot of praise

That's a lot of new faces getting good reviews. More that I can every remember. This is turning into a whole new team very, very quickly

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Posted: 8/3/2014 2:29 PM

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From what I have read I would put Shazier in a neutral category.  His stock isn't up or down in my book.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 2:30 PM

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im sure who he hears things from are a lot better than us hearing them from other fans who's uncle went to 1 open practice and told them


 

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Posted: 8/3/2014 2:31 PM

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What or who have you been reading?


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From what I have read I would put Shazier in a neutral category.  His stock isn't up or down in my book.

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Posted: 8/3/2014 2:32 PM

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The defense could be really exciting to watch this year.  I am sure there will be some blown assignments but I expect more big plays.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 2:39 PM

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Just read things on this board and other sports boards, and occassionally an article.  I have also read various camp notes from Wex and others.  I remember Shazier getting worked by some o-lineman (can't recall who) in one-on-one drills.  I expect him to have a learning curve.  I didn't mean to be down on him but just that he is where I expected from what I have read.
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From what I have read I would put Shazier in a neutral category.  His stock isn't up or down in my book.

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