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Are you ready for CHip Kelly???

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Posted: 1/16/2013 1:24 PM

Are you ready for CHip Kelly??? 


ESPN states he will be the new coach. Are you ready???
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Posted: 1/16/2013 5:51 PM

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BumBuck wrote: ESPN states he will be the new coach. Are you ready???
Not sure how I feel about this. Glad that it's all over with. But I never liked the idea of Chip Kelly as our coach. Guess that I'll have to get used to the idea now. Hope that I was wrong about him.

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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:23 AM

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Mixed feelings:

On the negative side, I kind of wanted a defensive guy. I think the biggest reason we've stunk is our failure to draft and defensive talent, and since to my dismay, the front office is remaining status quo, I was hoping getting a defensive guy in the war room would help that. I also worry if he's "all in", being that he initially said no. I just hope he doesn't skulk away when things get tough like Saban and Petrino did. Lastly, I worry about the lack of NFL experience. I'd feel better about this if we had a stronger front office, but we don't.

On the plus side, he's an obviously brilliant football mind, and has an outstanding collegiate record. The "upside" here is real, real, high. I'm also not incredibly concerned about him running the Oregon offense here. He's already said that he'd have to adapt wouldn't use it in the NFL in it's current form. I also think the idea of needing a running QB, and being a second lease on life for Vick is seriously overblown. It's been well documented that he's commiserated with Belichek, and New England has incorporated elements of his offense into what they do. Last time I checked, New England's quarterback is known for his pocket passing, not his legs.

Net net, I was on the "Gus Bus", but am excited about Kelly.  His defensive coordinator will be a key, key hire.

Eagles/Indiana/Mets/Villanova: it's a long story

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Posted: 1/17/2013 11:24 AM

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After seeing the video of Gus ranting at his players I realized that's not a good thing with the oversized egos of pro football.  No one wants to be seen as a chump as an adult. 

I am very excited about Chip Kelly. Sure we don't know what's going to happen, but no coaching hire comes with guarantees about the future. One thing is clear is that Chip Kelly is an extraordinarily intelligent moneyball coach with real success, so much so that the most moneyball coach there was in the NFL before yesterday, Bill Belichick, is already imitating Kelly.

I'm quite curious about the details. I had speculated openly that a major concession had to be made, a concession that arose at the very least within multiple coaching negotiations, including Kelly's. But Kelly needing to get out of an NCAA investigation is also a factor, so who knows. The "Roseman is a hero" story has been circulating but everything on that is a "my sources" thread.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 12:51 PM

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1993Heel wrote: After seeing the video of Gus ranting at his players I realized that's not a good thing with the oversized egos of pro football.  No one wants to be seen as a chump as an adult. 

I am very excited about Chip Kelly. Sure we don't know what's going to happen, but no coaching hire comes with guarantees about the future. One thing is clear is that Chip Kelly is an extraordinarily intelligent moneyball coach with real success, so much so that the most moneyball coach there was in the NFL before yesterday, Bill Belichick, is already imitating Kelly.

I'm quite curious about the details. I had speculated openly that a major concession had to be made, a concession that arose at the very least within multiple coaching negotiations, including Kelly's. But Kelly needing to get out of an NCAA investigation is also a factor, so who knows. The "Roseman is a hero" story has been circulating but everything on that is a "my sources" thread.
Generally speaking, as an adult, if you don't act like a chump, you won't have to worry too much about being seen as one. I liked Bradley and wish that we would've hired him. But Chip Kelly does present some interesting possibilities. I'm willing to give him a chance. Wouldn't be the first time that I've been wrong about something. Doubt that it'll be the last.

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Posted: 1/17/2013 1:07 PM

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PhilaMet wrote: Mixed feelings:

On the negative side, I kind of wanted a defensive guy. I think the biggest reason we've stunk is our failure to draft and defensive talent, and since to my dismay, the front office is remaining status quo, I was hoping getting a defensive guy in the war room would help that. I also worry if he's "all in", being that he initially said no. I just hope he doesn't skulk away when things get tough like Saban and Petrino did. Lastly, I worry about the lack of NFL experience. I'd feel better about this if we had a stronger front office, but we don't.

On the plus side, he's an obviously brilliant football mind, and has an outstanding collegiate record. The "upside" here is real, real, high. I'm also not incredibly concerned about him running the Oregon offense here. He's already said that he'd have to adapt wouldn't use it in the NFL in it's current form. I also think the idea of needing a running QB, and being a second lease on life for Vick is seriously overblown. It's been well documented that he's commiserated with Belichek, and New England has incorporated elements of his offense into what they do. Last time I checked, New England's quarterback is known for his pocket passing, not his legs.

Net net, I was on the "Gus Bus", but am excited about Kelly.  His defensive coordinator will be a key, key hire.

I was for taking Bradley too. But since that's obviously not going to happen, I've been a little more encouraged by some of the things that I've been reading about Kelly. The biggest thing for me is that he supposedly really hates turnovers (so we might avoid necessarily being stuck with Vick and his overinflated salary). AFAIC, that's what's been really killing us for the past 2 years. If true, Kelly could work out better for us than I'd originally expected. I'm willing to give him a chance.

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Posted: 1/17/2013 7:41 PM

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Oregon Duck fan here.

I can tell you this much, it's a very depressing day here in Eugene Oregon.
Just when we thought we had him for at least another year, this happens.
Don't know how he can possibly make his system work in the NFL, but he sure took us to levels never seen.

Good luck, it will be interesting to see what happens.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 1:34 AM

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ZXERBOY wrote: Oregon Duck fan here.

I can tell you this much, it's a very depressing day here in Eugene Oregon.
Just when we thought we had him for at least another year, this happens.
Don't know how he can possibly make his system work in the NFL, but he sure took us to levels never seen.

Good luck, it will be interesting to see what happens.
So. Do we pick up some new Eagles fans in Oregon as a result of hiring him, or do they hate us more for taking him away from the Ducks?

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Posted: 1/18/2013 10:02 AM

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What I wouldn't give for my perpetual doormat Indiana football team to have enough success that we'd lose a HC to the pros......

Eagles/Indiana/Mets/Villanova: it's a long story

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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:07 AM

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Our problem this year wasn't the offense (well minus the OL). It was the defense. Kelly brings an explosive offense but who will he tap to fix the defense. We can score 40 points a game with this offense, but give up 40 with the defense.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:35 AM

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yankeeboy1046 wrote: Our problem this year wasn't the offense (well minus the OL). It was the defense. Kelly brings an explosive offense but who will he tap to fix the defense. We can score 40 points a game with this offense, but give up 40 with the defense.
Sorry yank, but our D was top 10 at the start of the season (top 5 at one point). It didn't totally melt down until Juan was fired. Without the outstanding play by our D we probably wouldn't have won any of those first 3 games. And our O, especially our QB was turning the ball over at a record setting pace. If Kelly just gets that under control, he'll immediately put us back in the competition. But you are correct. It doesn't do any good to be scoring 40 ppg if the other guys are scoring 41.

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