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Posted: 12/26/2012 2:57 AM

Head Coach Choices 


Saints Offensive Coordinator, 41 year old Pete Carmichael Jr.?
Sure he had the luxury of Drew Brees but he knows the passing game. Has been calling plays for the Saints this year. Struggled early this year with playcalling but has improved.  Has potential.

Greg Roman, Niners Offensive Coordinator, and Harbaugh's assistant from Stanford.
Was a candidate for the Penn State job.  Consistently GREAT offense with no passing game. Hard to ignore this guy. Plus he should be a local favorite: he's a south Jersey guy (Ventnor). Can also blend well with the Reid coaching tree and even retain elements of the current coaching staff. Problems with coaching the offense this year are at the HC level. Roman is calling the plays on the offense with the best production to talent ratio over the last several years. He's going to cost the Eagles but he would undoubtedly draw a great coordinator into the Eagles staff to come in with him.

Chip Kelly. A winning coach but no pro experience. He's already about into his 50s and is just grabbing his first successes. He's poised to leave the Ducks because he's got troubles in his house. That's not the sort of leadership the Eagles need. This would be a mistake.

I prefer someone young and really connected. My pick would be Roman.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 8:26 AM

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I'd prefer a defensive minded coach, but I get the feeling Lurie is in love with offense...you know the whole "offense sells tickets" thing.

I wonder how much a guy like Brees calls his own plays.  Not sure I'd go with Carmichael.  I wouldn't mind Greg Roman and I share your skepticism over Chip Kelly.  Gimmicky offenses don't last long in the NFL.  The wildcat was figured out quickly and the read-option will be by the start of next season.  I have a bad feeling Chip Kelly is their guy.  Hopefully he goes to KC and takes Geno Smith.

Other guys I'd like them to look at:

Stanford HC David Shaw
Notre Dame HC Brian Kelly
Penn State HC Bill O'Brien
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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:50 AM

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Agree with both of you. Skeptical about Chip Kelly. Don't know who I want, but it's not him. Not interested in gimmicks. Somebody to bring more discipline to the team. That's the biggest problem that we've had the last 2 years. Turnovers and mistakes. Like D4TW, I'm leaning towards a more D oriented coach, although I don't think that's the way they're going to go.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 1:12 PM

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I hear what both of you are saying, but successful teams from a pragmatic standpoint are run by offensive coaches who can breed QBs and co-manage playcalling with OCs. Rex Ryan is defensive minded and that didn't work out too well for the Jets. Even with the Niners, they suffer from that general lack of quality input from the HC.

Speaking of Ryan, wouldn't it be fantastic for us to hire Roman and he brings in Rex Ryan as his DC? Dare to dream.

For the record I'm not down with bringing in a Gruden, Billick, or Cowher. These guys have done it but they've  been out of it. They'd spend their time catching up not moving ahead.
Eagles1976 wrote: Agree with both of you. Skeptical about Chip Kelly. Don't know who I want, but it's not him. Not interested in gimmicks. Somebody to bring more discipline to the team. That's the biggest problem that we've had the last 2 years. Turnovers and mistakes. Like D4TW, I'm leaning towards a more D oriented coach, although I don't think that's the way they're going to go.
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Posted: 12/26/2012 5:25 PM

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1993Heel wrote: I hear what both of you are saying, but successful teams from a pragmatic standpoint are run by offensive coaches who can breed QBs and co-manage playcalling with OCs. Rex Ryan is defensive minded and that didn't work out too well for the Jets. Even with the Niners, they suffer from that general lack of quality input from the HC.

Speaking of Ryan, wouldn't it be fantastic for us to hire Roman and he brings in Rex Ryan as his DC? Dare to dream.

For the record I'm not down with bringing in a Gruden, Billick, or Cowher. These guys have done it but they've  been out of it. They'd spend their time catching up not moving ahead.
Eagles1976 wrote: Agree with both of you. Skeptical about Chip Kelly. Don't know who I want, but it's not him. Not interested in gimmicks. Somebody to bring more discipline to the team. That's the biggest problem that we've had the last 2 years. Turnovers and mistakes. Like D4TW, I'm leaning towards a more D oriented coach, although I don't think that's the way they're going to go.
I mentioned Ryan in another post. Would love to have him here as DC. Don't care who HC would be. And as long as they get rid of Marty I will be extremely happy!
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Posted: 12/28/2012 6:27 PM

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If I were to choose a defensive-minded coach, I would go with Joe Vitt.  But my pick is Rick Dennison from the Texans because I want someone who can build a strong running game and take this offense to an elite-level.  Dennison has done a great job utilizing Arian Foster and Ben Tate, imagine what he could do with McCoy/Brown/Lewis/Havili.

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Posted: 12/29/2012 2:26 PM

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Bringing in Chip Kelly wouldn't be too bad. But not as a HC. He is too offensive minded. Oregon's D isn't that great. But they don't have to be when the offense puts up 40 pts a game. 

Kelly as OC would be nice, but won't happen. He wants HC job.
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Posted: 12/30/2012 12:07 PM

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I like this guy's resume:

www.packers.com/team/coaches/t...af-00f437249c9f

Kelly would be an exciting pick, but I'm just not on board with it. The combination of his inexperience in the NFL, coupled with, IMO, a giant question mark at GM makes me really uncomfortable. If we had a GM I felt good about, then maybe. For what it's worth, I think the higher priority should be to hire someone above Roseman, but I know it ain't happening.

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Posted: 12/30/2012 6:37 PM

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I would rather have Bill O'Brien from Penn St than Kelly. He has some Pro experience with the patriots at least....
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Posted: 12/31/2012 8:23 AM

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I said it beofre and I'll say it again...no big name/hot property HC is going to come here and call 37 year old boy genuis Howie his boss, so we can write off Cowher, Gruden, and any other HC with SB hardware.  The hot property candidates have their pick, and teams like SD are closer to being a winner and are more desirable destinations.  The pathetic effort this team put out in the finale may have turn off a few guys that might have considered this job, especially if he doesn't have final say in personnel.

I get the feeling we'll end up getting some 2nd tier OC or QB coach as our next HC.
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Posted: 12/31/2012 12:20 PM

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I dont think any HC will have an anti Howie obsession...now the top guys might care that there is a GM here at all.   a Gruden might want his own guy, or, be the guy himself.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 12:41 PM

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Defense4tehwin wrote: I said it beofre and I'll say it again...no big name/hot property HC is going to come here and call 37 year old boy genuis Howie his boss, so we can write off Cowher, Gruden, and any other HC with SB hardware.  The hot property candidates have their pick, and teams like SD are closer to being a winner and are more desirable destinations.  The pathetic effort this team put out in the finale may have turn off a few guys that might have considered this job, especially if he doesn't have final say in personnel.

I get the feeling we'll end up getting some 2nd tier OC or QB coach as our next HC.
Actually according to Lurie it's been Howie, not Reid that has made the better personnel decisions the past year or two. I don't think Lurie would throw Reid under the bus like that just to get Howie some respect, especially after all Reid has done here. Maybe Howie is actually a pretty good GM. With Reid gone we should see with the draft this year.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 12:48 PM

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Funny how Howie was the one on TV when they thought those past off seasons were successful.  Now that they're regarded as epic fails, it's Banner and Reid who were behind them.  Yeah...not buying it.  We can just as easily credit the apparently successful 2012 draft on Mickey Loomis.

Lurie also said he didn't decide until Monday to fire Andy.  ROFLMAO.

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Posted: 1/2/2013 8:01 AM

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I was driving into work this morning listening to WIP (I wanted to hear Angelo going beserk celebrating Reid being gone lol) and they had a segment including audio clips of Howie and quotes from newspaper interviews with him that pretty squarely put the organizational love for drafting Watkins on Howie's shoulders.  So yeah, excuse me when I call BS on Lurie saying previous drafts weren't on him.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 3:35 PM

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After doing some reading on the matter, these are the guys that I like best for the job;
1.Bill O'Brien- PSU HC
2.Mike McCoy- Broncos OC
3.Mike Zimmer- Bengals DC
4.Rick Dennison- Texans OC
And I really hope that we can get O'Brien. Although I don't think that it's very likely that he's going to leave Penn State. Hope that I'm wrong.

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Posted: 1/2/2013 5:28 PM

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O'Brien isn't going anywhere. There is a $18 million buyout for him.... I can't see any team (except dallas) spending that type of money on a coach, plus pay his regular salary.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 8:10 PM

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I was driving into work this morning listening to WIP (I wanted to hear Angelo going beserk celebrating Reid being gone lol) and they had a segment including audio clips of Howie and quotes from newspaper interviews with him that pretty squarely put the organizational love for drafting Watkins on Howie's shoulders.  So yeah, excuse me when I call BS on Lurie saying previous drafts weren't on him.

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Yep, for Lurie to completely wash Roseman's hands of the draft mistakes that have absolutely crippled this team really stretchesmthe bounds of credibility. I hope I'm wrong about Roseman, but I have no confidence in him.

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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:57 PM

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to be fair, alot of that could of been Howie just being a good soldier and vocally supporting the team's draft.
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Posted: 1/3/2013 5:09 PM

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OK he busted on Watkins... did anyone here think he would be a bust too? Not that I can remember. Cant get all the picks right....
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Posted: 1/3/2013 8:12 PM

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I honestly never like taking a lineman that was a man playing among boys...when we took Watkins it reminded me of McDougal.
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