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Occupy Wall Street!

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Posted: 11/10/2012 7:09 AM

Occupy Wall Street! 


Look, someone needs to go in there and do something!

The world heard the cry as that camp grew and inspired other ones around the globe. Ultimately, though, little was accomplished in the ways of policy change, and Occupy became largely a punch line. But core members, and a spirit, have persisted and found a new cause in Occupy Sandy.

It started at St. Jacobi Church in Brooklyn the day after the storm, where Occupiers set up a base of operations and used social media like Twitter and Facebook to spread the word.

There is a sense of camaraderie reminiscent of Zuccotti, as young people with scruffy beards and walkie-talkies plan the day's activities. Donations come in by the truckload and are sorted in the basement, which looks like a clearinghouse for every household product imaginable, from canned soup and dog food to duvet covers.

"This is young people making history," said Mark Naison, a professor at Fordham University who has been studying Occupy Wall Street. "Young people who are refusing to let people suffer without putting themselves on the line to do something about it."

The source? Yahoo....

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Posted: 11/10/2012 11:14 AM

Re: Occupy Wall Street! 


Whats their point?  They runing a food drive to feed "the homeless" aka urban outdoorsmen?

 "In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f**k ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go  f**k off."           -  George Carlin

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Posted: 11/12/2012 6:30 AM

Their point is.... 


....that this is how we take care of each other whilst the fiddler plays in Rome. FEMA can't handle it all. Much has to be done by local gov. But they don't or they aren't. All you can get maximum from FEMA is around 37k to rebuild with. That doesn't cover a whole home. Where is the rest going to come from. It doesn't. The people, if they are going to rebuild, have to come up with the rest. That is a whole infrastructure problem. Those gas mains that broke. You saw all that, didn't you? It's not a demiocratic problem or a republican one. It's a deficit problem thanks to the powers that were.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 6:18 AM

Rollingjubilee.org. 


This is what Occupy is doing for the people. A hell of a lot more than just lip service!

to abolish $6,195,781 of debt

A bailout of the people by the people

Rolling Jubilee is a Strike Debt project that buys debt for pennies on the dollar, but instead of collecting it, abolishes it. Together we can liberate debtors at random through a campaign of mutual support, good will, and collective refusal. Debt resistance is just the beginning. Join us as we imagine and create a new world based on the common good, not Wall Street profits.

 

Last edited 11/21/2012 4:03 AM by slvrblckstang

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Posted: 11/22/2012 8:19 AM

Re: Rollingjubilee.org. 


So occupy wants to prevent people from repaying money they have borrowed???eek1
slvrblckstang wrote: This is what Occupy is doing for the people. A hell of a lot more than just lip service!

to abolish $6,195,781 of debt

A bailout of the people by the people

Rolling Jubilee is a Strike Debt project that buys debt for pennies on the dollar, but instead of collecting it, abolishes it. Together we can liberate debtors at random through a campaign of mutual support, good will, and collective refusal. Debt resistance is just the beginning. Join us as we imagine and create a new world based on the common good, not Wall Street profits.

 

 "In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f**k ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go  f**k off."           -  George Carlin

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Posted: 11/23/2012 3:09 AM

Occupy wants to take people's debt and retire it. 


The bank is trying to throw you out in the streets. Occupy is trying to buy your house for you seeing as how you didn't do anything to deserve it! You don't understand that? You, as an employer, have the power to hire and fire. The worker doesn't have the power to just get a new job right away. If a person was unjustly thrown out on their ear, occupy will evaluate and decide whether you need a liddle help to become an owner. Just like I will own this home in 2013. The banks are the ones who put this whole world into the shytter. They sjpould be the ones taking a haircut. Not creating a whole new poor class as they leave their carnage behind while socking it away in the Caymans.

Homes are bought for pennies on the dollar, just like bass did, and given to the person who is that close to being thrown out in the snow. I donated. All those collection agencies that get reimbursed by government for "their loss" will be eliminated....well, not all of them but you see where this is going. Greedy phuckin' banks that want you to pay 285k for a 120k house. I know about these things. Phan knows. Cactus knows. Ask okie about how they are doing his house. They can't even firesale his place. There is no market because people don't qualify. Some people will not buy a repo because they will have to pay the taxes even if it's empty. It will need to be rented. Only the rich can afford to pay taxes on an empty house. Maybe that is what this is all about. All the rich people buying what the poor can't afford anymore. Working in cahoots with bankers that make pennies on the dollar? Instead of refinancing? Something smells really fishy.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 9:30 PM

Re: Occupy wants to take people's debt and retire it. 


"Collective refusal" and "debt resistance" imply some kind of agenda to prevent lenders from collecting the money that is owed to them.

 "In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f**k ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go  f**k off."           -  George Carlin

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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:09 AM

Spin it, ADIG! 



AlDavisisGod wrote: "Collective refusal" and "debt resistance" imply some kind of agenda to prevent lenders from collecting the money that is owed to them.

What it sounds like? How about what it really is doing about the worker that gets thrown out in the street to line the pockets of the rich bankers. Did that worker know that Bain capital was out to close their plant after 35 years? Now, he can't pay a 1500 mortgage because he has no job. So, the bankers are still owed that 1500 every month whether the person has it or not. Yeah, that's the kind of contract that makes people rich! Sell that house over and over again as those people never have a job for 30 years in order to pay that mortgage off. Yep, all the cards belong to the bankers. They could even be in cahoots with the businesses that can close their doors before people actually pay their debt off. That would be criminal but I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Your assumtion that those "terms" mean what you say says alot about how you view things in general. It's not the bankers fault that the worker lost his job after 25 years and can't pay off that mortgage without UI benefits. At $360/wk, you don't pay 1500/mnth. Or you don't eat. Which will it be to satisfy an uber-rich venture/vulture capitalist?

We know how the capitalist thinks. The 1%ers. ALL THESE WORKERS ARE THERE SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAKING MONEY FOR THE OWNER. That is all. It's written under every blog by every capitalist. The worker is there only to make money for the boss. that is how they think. Forget the philanthropic view of bettering society. This is about my money!!! I should be able to have the freedom to do whatever I want with it. As long as I can take that money I make off of the American economy and sock that away in some taxhaven in the Bahamas, I couldn't give a dammm.devil

Last edited 11/24/2012 5:23 AM by slvrblckstang

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Posted: 11/24/2012 6:05 AM

Words have meanings - and loans are made to be repaid 


If you borrow money from a person or a bank, you are obligated to repay the money at the agreed upon terms.  If your political friends "fix it" so that people are able to refuse to pay back loans, then people and businesses will stop making loans, since only a great fool would loan money with no assurance or repayment.

The banks are almost all publicly traded companies, so the profits that they make from financial services line the pockets of retirees, pension funds, small investors, big investors etc.  Many pension funds are HEAVILY invested in the banking sector, so your desire to punish the "greedy bankers" would wind up hurting more hard working Americans, 99%ers and 1%ers.

Employers DO hire workers in order to make a profit - thats what motivates us to take the risks and grow our businesses.  If the politicians remove the profit, what motivation would I possibly have to work 60  hours a week and risk my money?  Even if I somehow DID want to risk it all with no hope of reward, how would I ever get investors who were that stupid?

Workers are free to work where they wish, and to quit for any reason or no reason, and employers are free to hire who they choose and to terminate that employment for any reason or no reason as well (at least in my state).  No one ever forced anyone to work for any particular company, and my employees work for me because in their opinion it is the best position for them...... likewise I have hired them because I believe that they are the finest people to take care of my wonderful customers.

I am preparing to purchase a bigger home, and I am currently shopping for a mortgage --- I will choose the best mortgage for my needs (probably a 7/1 or 10/1 ARM), and then I will live up to the terms of my mortgage agreement or they will take my new home.

Thats how it works for me and for you.

 "In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f**k ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go  f**k off."           -  George Carlin

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Posted: 11/25/2012 4:01 AM

Tell that to all the people.... 


....thrown out of their homes by the bankers that created CDOs. Every person that was caught up in the banks' excesses(predatory lending) should have some kind of opportunity to refi. The banks won't do it because they lose the promise of that 300k loan for a 100k house. That is called greed and bad fortune in a toxic soup. Toxic soup will be made of rental property instead of home ownership. bass pointed that out a long time ago. The landlord will be king once again. Now is the time to get these people into homes, if the market has bottomed out?/! The banks can't make any money that way. They will cry "socialism" and use their own form of spite....who will rent? Simplify the loan process and put a clause in there that you don't lose your house over a temporary jobloss. Lots of people upside down. Not just the poor. That million dollar home isn't worth 1/2 that today. Everybody got burnt. Not just those who lost their jobs.

Occupy has an agenda of pointing out the inequalities in all their grandeur. Instead of working with people like okie, they hold the never ending threat of a firesale from the bank. No negotiations, just repo in order to fatten the bottom line.

That's how it works.eek

Last edited 11/25/2012 8:19 AM by slvrblckstang

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Posted: 11/27/2012 6:02 AM

Occupy L.A.! 


This guy is not alone!

Castaldo’s story mirrors that of countless homeowners who were hit hard by the housing crisis and fell victim to predatory lending. He was advised to take an interest-only loan to buy an overpriced property.

An interest-only loan to buy an overpriced property? If you don't call that predatory....eek1

It was only advice!

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Posted: 12/19/2012 8:01 AM

Re: Occupy L.A.! 


In modern times we call it grand theft. I think those who refuse to lay their debts belong in an Iraqi prison.

 

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Posted: 12/29/2012 4:43 PM

Re: Occupy L.A.! 


these people should spend their time to "Occupy" a job.

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Posted: 12/30/2012 7:38 AM

Re: Occupy L.A.! 


All the "jobs" are occupied!excited
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