I dont know if its BS or not...but I thought I should share. Very interesting if true..

I have said it before the guy hasn't done anything before and has been turned down before for the GM job several times and must have a HUGE ego to fire our whole coaching staff just for the sake of doing it "his way" There was no need for that shyt. Instead of building on something that was here he mailed in our entire season for the almighty goat fvckin Greg Knapp. What a joke. We have talented people on our team and they're not being used correctly or to their strengths now. I hope everyone loved the Denver game because the rest of our season unless shyt changes with our offense it's gonna look just like that game. 

Thanks for sharing Ecnirp. I only believe half of what I see, but that does seem like a pretty elaborate story for somebody to make up. Was it a reputable poster on RFN?

I think some of Reggie's early moves have made his ego clear as day, so I wouldn't be surprised if this story was true. Why bring in such a young and unproven coach if his plan wasn't to mold the coach? It's not as if Dennis Allen is some seasoned guru, he's just a prospect.

I would hope that if this is true, Rod Woodson and others go straight to Mark Davis to voice their concerns. Even though I doubt Mark would want the hassle of making changes too soon, it should be fresh in his mind, so after Reggie runs the organization into the ground for a few years Mark won't be too tolerant.

Hope all this stuff is nonsense and Reggie is doing things the right way, but I really don't like some of the moves he's made thus far, and it definitely seems he's more insistent on doing things "his way" than the right way. Releasing both of last years 3rd round picks, both who contributed to the team as rookies, really rubbed me the wrong way. These guys were given no development time. And Willie Smith, Joselio Hanson etc, the guys we replaced them with, have performed far worse than DVD and Barksdale did as rookies last season.

The story about Routt would make sense, considering how much hostility Routt has held toward the Raiders organization since he left.

Seems like Reggie is just trying to get rid of Al Davis fingerprints, so if he indeed builds a winner, the credit will be fully his. But I have no faith Reggie knows how to build a winner. Will have to sit back and watch, see how it goes, but my gut never liked Reggie, my brain doesn't like Reggie, so I don't have any faith.

The Oakland Raiders have fired coach Hue Jackson, less than a week after hiring Reggie McKenzie as general manager.

McKenzie explained the decision at his introductory news conference Tuesday.

"No. 1: I want my guy," McKenzie said. "My approach is old school. ... We will win championships here."

McKenzie did not elaborate as to who was on his short list to replace Jackson, but said the search would begin immediately. He said it would not matter if the coach was defensive-minded or offensive-minded, experienced as a head coach or not.

Jackson was in disbelief after being notified Tuesday.

He said of McKenzie, "He's going to gut this place," in an interview with CSN San Francisco. "He wants to bring in his own guys. No job is safe right now."


So...Reggie had nobody in particular in mind for the head coaching job. He just wanted "his guy".

Reggie canned Hue after just about a week of being GM. That's not enough time to even research the whole 2011 season and evaluate Hue. He didn't even evaluate him...he fired him because he wasn't "his guy".

Obviously, Hue wasn't happy about losing his job. But his quote is telling.

I hope you Reggie fluffers have faith in this lisp talking, stubborn piece of shyt still after this disastrous 1-3 start and bringing back Knapp. Knapp, BTW, was probably another ego based decision by Reggie. He thought Knapp could get this offense to perform, which is why he left most of the key pieces in place. He wanted to make it clear that Hue Jackson wasn't responsible for this offenses success, that Hue just got lucky and came in when this offense had the pieces to function. Bringing back a guy who AD already shyt canned once?

Dude is an ego-maniac.

BanditoB wrote: Thanks for sharing Ecnirp. I only believe half of what I see, but that does seem like a pretty elaborate story for somebody to make up. Was it a reputable poster on RFN?

I think some of Reggie's early moves have made his ego clear as day, so I wouldn't be surprised if this story was true. Why bring in such a young and unproven coach if his plan wasn't to mold the coach? It's not as if Dennis Allen is some seasoned guru, he's just a prospect.

I would hope that if this is true, Rod Woodson and others go straight to Mark Davis to voice their concerns. Even though I doubt Mark would want the hassle of making changes too soon, it should be fresh in his mind, so after Reggie runs the organization into the ground for a few years Mark won't be too tolerant.

Hope all this stuff is nonsense and Reggie is doing things the right way, but I really don't like some of the moves he's made thus far, and it definitely seems he's more insistent on doing things "his way" than the right way. Releasing both of last years 3rd round picks, both who contributed to the team as rookies, really rubbed me the wrong way. These guys were given no development time. And Willie Smith, Joselio Hanson etc, the guys we replaced them with, have performed far worse than DVD and Barksdale did as rookies last season.

The story about Routt would make sense, considering how much hostility Routt has held toward the Raiders organization since he left.

Seems like Reggie is just trying to get rid of Al Davis fingerprints, so if he indeed builds a winner, the credit will be fully his. But I have no faith Reggie knows how to build a winner. Will have to sit back and watch, see how it goes, but my gut never liked Reggie, my brain doesn't like Reggie, so I don't have any faith.

Trust me I hope its BS. Or we're fked with Reggie in charge.

Sounds like Al is alive and well.

Al Davis never had Mark Davis in charge of anything. So the blame goes higher than Reggie, who hired Reggie?  More of thought procees should have gone into retaining Hue Jackson? Reggie was quick on the trigger to let Hue go after 8-8 without careful evaluation. Thats obvious now.

Right now Hue Jackson is laughing like hell

 Reggie your going fire my azz

This clears a lot up for sure and the times and events with their statements...it's very hard to not believe. Plus as stated, they are in the football world and they should know. Living here in Texas I found it very strange Dennis Allen wasn't running the Spread Offense, that part I believe hands down. Coming from A & M and with the personnel in Oakland...we could have be a scoring machine under Neal Brown. Maybe it will eventually happen...

Go Raiders...

This **** makes my sick to read.

Up yours McKenzie you scumbag.

Poster is only been on RF for about a month or so and since he posted this is yet to respond to any of the questions that is been brought up to him on this .

I tend to think this is bullshyt as Dennis was hired on January 24th 
Rod,Bres , Ross , and Biekert were released on February 3rd .

That Why would Dennis even mention yet of the things he wants to do for the team to a staff that he isn't planning on keeping as his ?

That Why onlt being on the job for one day would Reggie be talking to the assistant corners back coach about Routt is future when he had much more important things to be doing like finding his new head coach over talking with Rod ?

That Reggie has no previous connections to Knapp that it is Allen that worked with Gregg in Atlanta when Gregg was the OC In Atlanta from 2004-06, Knapp’s offense featured the top rushing attack in the league, averaging 169.9 yards per game on the ground over three seasons.
In 2005, the Falcons led the league in rushing by averaging 159.1 yards per game and produced a 1,000-yard rusher and three Pro Bowlers on offense.  In 2004, the Falcons averaged 167 yards while advancing to the NFC Championship game.


For being an intern in the Raiders com department that is saying he is friends of these two guys . 
Why is it that he is posting their conversions on a internet message board ?

That this does bring in some Legal issues for him as did either of these guys say this is on the record or off the record for this luncheon ?

BanditoB wrote: Thanks for sharing Ecnirp. I only believe half of what I see, but that does seem like a pretty elaborate story for somebody to make up. Was it a reputable poster on RFN?


I think some of Reggie's early moves have made his ego clear as day, so I wouldn't be surprised if this story was true. Why bring in such a young and unproven coach if his plan wasn't to mold the coach? It's not as if Dennis Allen is some seasoned guru, he's just a prospect.

I would hope that if this is true, Rod Woodson and others go straight to Mark Davis to voice their concerns. Even though I doubt Mark would want the hassle of making changes too soon, it should be fresh in his mind, so after Reggie runs the organization into the ground for a few years Mark won't be too tolerant.

Hope all this stuff is nonsense and Reggie is doing things the right way, but I really don't like some of the moves he's made thus far, and it definitely seems he's more insistent on doing things "his way" than the right way. Releasing both of last years 3rd round picks, both who contributed to the team as rookies, really rubbed me the wrong way. These guys were given no development time. And Willie Smith, Joselio Hanson etc, the guys we replaced them with, have performed far worse than DVD and Barksdale did as rookies last season.

The story about Routt would make sense, considering how much hostility Routt has held toward the Raiders organization since he left.

Seems like Reggie is just trying to get rid of Al Davis fingerprints, so if he indeed builds a winner, the credit will be fully his. But I have no faith Reggie knows how to build a winner. Will have to sit back and watch, see how it goes, but my gut never liked Reggie, my brain doesn't like Reggie, so I don't have any faith.

Does a towel boy/assistant water boy even laugh at all ?

GoRaiders2005 wrote: Al Davis never had Mark Davis in charge of anything. So the blame goes higher than Reggie, who hired Reggie?  More of thought procees should have gone into retaining Hue Jackson? Reggie was quick on the trigger to let Hue go after 8-8 without careful evaluation. Thats obvious now.

Right now Hue Jackson is laughing like hell



 Reggie your going fire my azz

Lol, yeah, Hue's laughing like hell as a DB coach in Cincy or trying to coach where the gunners run on special teams.  He's tickled pink right now...  

Reggie worries me . . . degenerative brain disease anyone?

Reggie fired a ton of our scouting staff rather than teach him what he wants them to find just canned them. I believe his twin brother the high school football coach is running the scouting now. 

Player Personnel
Teddy Atlas
Calvin Branch
Joey Clinkscales
Zack Crockett
Shaun Herock
Von Hutchins
Brad Kaplan
Larry Marmie
Mickey Marvin
David McCloughan
Raleigh McKenzie
Trey Scott
Dane Vandernat

It's okay those that got canned only knew how to use a stopwatch to gauge a players anyways .
Shaun Herock is likely training these guys as to what Reggie seeks in his players since he worked with him in Green Bay .
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Reggie fired a ton of our scouting staff rather than teach him what he wants them to find just canned them. I believe his twin brother the high school football coach is running the scouting now. 

Player Personnel
Teddy Atlas
Calvin Branch
Joey Clinkscales
Zack Crockett
Shaun Herock
Von Hutchins
Brad Kaplan
Larry Marmie
Mickey Marvin
David McCloughan
Raleigh McKenzie
Trey Scott
Dane Vandernat

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From what I've seen Reggie is a TERRIBLE judge of talent. Bergestorm, Brisiel, Spencer, Matt Leinart... the 'talent' he's brought in is phucking EMBARRASSING 

nascarford0688 wrote:
It's okay those that got canned only knew how to use a stopwatch to gauge a players anyways .
Shaun Herock is likely training these guys as to what Reggie seeks in his players since he worked with him in Green Bay .
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--- DEMONKING wrote:

Reggie fired a ton of our scouting staff rather than teach him what he wants them to find just canned them. I believe his twin brother the high school football coach is running the scouting now. 

Player Personnel
Teddy Atlas
Calvin Branch
Joey Clinkscales
Zack Crockett
Shaun Herock
Von Hutchins
Brad Kaplan
Larry Marmie
Mickey Marvin
David McCloughan
Raleigh McKenzie
Trey Scott
Dane Vandernat

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I think Al needed to have a succession plan in place. He and Mark both knew Mark wasn't suited for the job. He should have at least identified people who he thought could carry this organization forward.

By Firing Hue and the roster turnover, it feels like we have taken many steps back.

raiders65 wrote: From what I've seen Reggie is a TERRIBLE judge of talent. Bergestorm, Brisiel, Spencer, Matt Leinart... the 'talent' he's brought in is phucking EMBARRASSING 

nascarford0688 wrote:
It's okay those that got canned only knew how to use a stopwatch to gauge a players anyways .
Shaun Herock is likely training these guys as to what Reggie seeks in his players since he worked with him in Green Bay .
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--- DEMONKING wrote:

Reggie fired a ton of our scouting staff rather than teach him what he wants them to find just canned them. I believe his twin brother the high school football coach is running the scouting now. 

Player Personnel
Teddy Atlas
Calvin Branch
Joey Clinkscales
Zack Crockett
Shaun Herock
Von Hutchins
Brad Kaplan
Larry Marmie
Mickey Marvin
David McCloughan
Raleigh McKenzie
Trey Scott
Dane Vandernat

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No kidding. And when asked about picks he had his hand in and took pride in over all those years with the Packers, Greg Jennings was the only great pick he named...and that was a 7th round, shot in the dark. It's like giving the Pats credit for drafting Brady, or the Saints for Colston...if they were so high on these guys, they would've secured them before the 7th round. They got lucky.

Anyway, his list was uninspiring for a guy who was a scout for so many years.

Reggie obviously didn't have his hand in on the Rodgers pick, or even the Matthews pick. All this talk about the great Packers organization is, had such a great QB's not fallen into their laps, they'd just be another team with a **** o-line and no rings over the past 20 years.

Gotta agree with that.

raiders65 wrote: From what I've seen Reggie is a TERRIBLE judge of talent. Bergestorm, Brisiel, Spencer, Matt Leinart... the 'talent' he's brought in is phucking EMBARRASSING