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Dennis Allen not concerned with Raiders pass def deficiencies

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Posted: 08/17/2014 10:27 PM

Dennis Allen not concerned with Raiders pass def deficiencies 


"I think it's still an area that needs to be improved. It's not the finished product, but that's not a huge concern of mine," said Allen in conference call Saturday. "I think when last year we were kind of in a little bit of the same boat. When you have that many new players and that many changing parts, it takes a little while to get that part of your defense down. It's really not a concern of mine. Obviously, there are things that we've got to get better at, but when we get ready to kick the ball off against the Jets, I'm confident that we'll play good defense." eek

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Posted: 08/18/2014 3:43 AM

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I'm sure we will improve.  We have two more preseason games and our first two regular season games aren't against dynamic passers.  So we have four tuneups for Brady.  Then the pass rush will be critical because Brady like Brees can only be stopped by a good pass rush. 

Side note:

Minnesota's Bridgewater and Cassel combined for 28/36, 330 yrds, and 3 TD, 0 TD.
This was against the cardinal defense that was supposed to be pretty good. 

And Palmer was 4/8, 91 yrds, 0 and 0.

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Posted: 08/18/2014 6:01 PM

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I'm thinking the overwhelming need for massive blitzing is going to be required....might as well blitz from the corner who can't cover

 

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Posted: 08/18/2014 6:39 PM

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rawhead wrote: "I think it's still an area that needs to be improved. It's not the finished product, but that's not a huge concern of mine," said Allen in conference call Saturday. "I think when last year we were kind of in a little bit of the same boat. When you have that many new players and that many changing parts, it takes a little while to get that part of your defense down. It's really not a concern of mine. Obviously, there are things that we've got to get better at, but when we get ready to kick the ball off against the Jets, I'm confident that we'll play good defense." eek

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It is more more than obvious you have a dislike or hate for RM and DA. what do you want DA to say ? Would you feel better if he  said the our Defense is sub par or would you like him to say our secondary sucks and I don't know what to do we are in a world of S**t?



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Posted: 08/18/2014 6:45 PM

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4thringtime wrote: I'm thinking the overwhelming need for massive blitzing is going to be required....might as well blitz from the corner who can't cover
I think I have said it before I will say it again I know he is retired but hell he would be an upgrade call nimandi we were the only ones who ever used him right eagles missed used playing zone 49ers underused hell you know he would be better
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Posted: 08/18/2014 6:46 PM

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We have had two preseason games JT is playing a very basic defense you will not see what the defense do until a few weeks into the season. Now if they still look like they have thus far after two PREseason games going into the season  then it is time to worry right now it is to premature to judge any of the team way to early.



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Posted: 08/18/2014 6:52 PM

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howieraider wrote:
4thringtime wrote: I'm thinking the overwhelming need for massive blitzing is going to be required....might as well blitz from the corner who can't cover
I think I have said it before I will say it again I know he is retired but hell he would be an upgrade call nimandi we were the only ones who ever used him right eagles missed used playing zone 49ers underused hell you know he would be better
If he is shape sign him to a vet minimum and see what he can do, Only thing the NFL has been keeping a close eye on bump and run man to man coverage you can't chip them like before and even if the jersey is touched they have been throwing flags.



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Posted: 08/18/2014 7:13 PM

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howieraider wrote:
4thringtime wrote: I'm thinking the overwhelming need for massive blitzing is going to be required....might as well blitz from the corner who can't cover
I think I have said it before I will say it again I know he is retired but hell he would be an upgrade call nimandi we were the only ones who ever used him right eagles missed used playing zone 49ers underused hell you know he would be better
If he is shape sign him to a vet minimum and see what he can do, Only thing the NFL has been keeping a close eye on bump and run man to man coverage you can't chip them like before and even if the jersey is touched they have been throwing flags.
True but wouldn't that be the sh@# if nimandi came back and showed he the man he was by getting comeback of the year award if he did what he did with us even with the new rules he shows everyone of his doubters he is the true and only shutdown corner
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Posted: 08/18/2014 8:22 PM

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well the defense has nowhere to go , but up I suppose at this point. They can't cover for shyt thus far. I am hoping ONE of these corners can cover we got. I'm starting to miss Jenkins and Porter. lol banghead
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Posted: 08/18/2014 11:22 PM

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My thoughts about RM and DA don't play a thing into it except when they say stupid stuff like this. DA should be concerned about EVERYTHING coming of 2 4-12 seasons.  How about something like "obviously we are concerned about every position and are doing our best to put the best team out there and I am confident when the season starts they will be ready to compete at the highest level."  What he said was arrogant and flippant and a slap in the face of every fan who has had to watch and listen to him coach. Now if Coach Harbaugh said "we're not concerned with the offense right now" after only scoring 3 points in 2 PS games, that's fine because they were in the last 3 NFC Championship games and went to the SB after one of them. Hardly the case for the Raiders. Who the F does DA think he's talking to? A bunch of idiots?


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Posted: 08/19/2014 8:38 PM

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IERaiderFan wrote:
rawhead wrote: "I think it's still an area that needs to be improved. It's not the finished product, but that's not a huge concern of mine," said Allen in conference call Saturday. "I think when last year we were kind of in a little bit of the same boat. When you have that many new players and that many changing parts, it takes a little while to get that part of your defense down. It's really not a concern of mine. Obviously, there are things that we've got to get better at, but when we get ready to kick the ball off against the Jets, I'm confident that we'll play good defense." eek

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It is more more than obvious you have a dislike or hate for RM and DA. what do you want DA to say ? Would you feel better if he  said the our Defense is sub par or would you like him to say our secondary sucks and I don't know what to do we are in a world of S**t?
RM is an idiot and DA is a moron, or maybe RM is a moron and DA is an idiot.  I forget their nomenclature.

I grew up in Michigan and was a Lion and Tiger fan before I was Raider fan.  I was to young to watch Bobby Layne win NFL championships unfortunately.  But I watched the once proud Tiger franchise that once had Cobb, Newhouser, Greenberg, Gehringer, Kaline, McLain, Lolich, Cash, Horton, Morris, Trammell and Whitaker go to the team that almost passed the franchise Mets as the worst team in history. 

The hardest thing was trying to get a proven star come to that team through free agency because they avoided them like they were lepers.  Then Dave got Pudge to sign and Maggs followed and and later Cabrera.  They went from a train wreck to a team that was penciled in to win the division every year.  They were in two world series.  But Pudge started it all.  And Tiger fans love him for that.

RM has taken a team that had huge financial problems and a recent history of sucking and has got finances in order.  Tuck, Woodley, MJD, Schaub, and Woodson came.  Some may be beyond their best years, but I think they have some left in the tank.  He wanted winners and didn't break the bank to get them.  He kept the guys that he felt he could afford and would contribute.  This isn't fantasy football and we don't start over every year.  I am extremely happy with what Reggie has done.  I have seen what it takes to fix a train wreck and put it back on the tracks.  Back in the day Al could spot talent and won championships with Lyle, Hayes, Plunk and many other castoffs. 

We will see how this plays out, but barring injuries, I expect the playoffs this season.  I don't expect RM and DA hanging around for any other reason than they earned it.

And when Al picked up my favorite player of all time, Plunk had went from the first pick that took down mighty Ohio State in the Rose Bowl to a guy that was a beaten mess.  I am sure there were a bunch of experts that thought Al was crazy.  But he saw the talent and competitive fire in Jim and was rewarded with two super bowls.

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Posted: 08/19/2014 10:10 PM

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So you're saying that RM and DA should be fired if they don't make the playoffs? Don't know what you're talking about. The Raiders start over every year. Always with false hope and ends with excuses.
Just because Al Davis did something in the past doesn't guarantee RM can do it even once in his life.
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This isn't fantasy football and we don't start over every year.  I am extremely happy with what Reggie has done.  I have seen what it takes to fix a train wreck and put it back on the tracks.  Back in the day Al could spot talent and won championships with Lyle, Hayes, Plunk and many other castoffs. 

We will see how this plays out, but barring injuries, I expect the playoffs this season.  I don't expect RM and DA hanging around for any other reason than they earned it.

And when Al picked up my favorite player of all time, Plunk had went from the first pick that took down mighty Ohio State in the Rose Bowl to a guy that was a beaten mess.  I am sure there were a bunch of experts that thought Al was crazy.  But he saw the talent and competitive fire in Jim and was rewarded with two super bowls.


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Posted: 08/19/2014 10:32 PM

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rawhead wrote: So you're saying that RM and DA should be fired if they don't make the playoffs? Don't know what you're talking about. The Raiders start over every year. Always with false hope and ends with excuses.
Just because Al Davis did something in the past doesn't guarantee RM can do it even once in his life.
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This isn't fantasy football and we don't start over every year.  I am extremely happy with what Reggie has done.  I have seen what it takes to fix a train wreck and put it back on the tracks.  Back in the day Al could spot talent and won championships with Lyle, Hayes, Plunk and many other castoffs. 

We will see how this plays out, but barring injuries, I expect the playoffs this season.  I don't expect RM and DA hanging around for any other reason than they earned it.

And when Al picked up my favorite player of all time, Plunk had went from the first pick that took down mighty Ohio State in the Rose Bowl to a guy that was a beaten mess.  I am sure there were a bunch of experts that thought Al was crazy.  But he saw the talent and competitive fire in Jim and was rewarded with two super bowls.
Of course not.  Reggie is not Al.  But I seem to remember when they asked the Great John Madden who could fix the Raiders he said Reggie. 

Fans want winners.  Some cry and whine but if an financial adviser was to look at their finances they would say you need make tough choices, you can't own Disneyland until can afford a ticket.  Let's not forget where we were before Reggie came.  This team was a disaster and now I think we are ready to roll.  Everything is going in the right direction.  Has any one heard one peep from the players that think otherwise?  Because they would be complaining if they thought we were as fuk*d as I read here.

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Posted: 08/20/2014 7:42 AM

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DA is the Ativan coach of the league. So far he has said he is not worried about our pass defense deficiencies.  He is not worried about Kahlil Mack developing his game. He is not worried about our receivers.
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Posted: 08/20/2014 6:08 PM

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For me it is to early to worry now if we suck, say after the 4th regular season game things don't click then it is time to worry and if it gets worst then it ill be time for Mark to clean house. We should see some improvement by then barring Key injuries. I still do not see us winning more than six games this season why, we have this scheduled against us this scheduled is brutal. The other thing is playing back east we have always sucked playing back in the east I am not trying to make excuses for them but this does not help. As far as some of these draft picks it is to early to judge them to know if they are worth a crap. Two pre season games is not even a snap shot to to judge the team or players it usually takes a good three years for a player to develop.




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Posted: 08/21/2014 10:52 AM

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4thringtime wrote: I'm thinking the overwhelming need for massive blitzing is going to be required....might as well blitz from the corner who can't cover
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But on a side note we have been in the top 5 for several years now in the QB sack category. A few of those years we were going back n forth #1 with the steelers i believe? Anyway, we have more ability to get after the QB this year than i've seen in a while and look forward to the patties game. 
If only we could still manage to get a legit DT before the season starts.
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Posted: 08/21/2014 11:05 AM

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4thringtime wrote: I'm thinking the overwhelming need for massive blitzing is going to be required....might as well blitz from the corner who can't cover
which one?


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Posted: 08/21/2014 1:31 PM

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Posted: 08/21/2014 2:10 PM

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My only thoughts are vets dont usually go all out during pre season.They are more concerned not getting hurt usually so tuck woodly smith and simms arent going full throttle which leaves the secondary hanging.Could be why allen isnt worried or maybe he is just in denial.I thought brown was an excellent signing at cb but he looks pathetic.cb rodgers was our only cb doing anything last game but struggled in the 1st game.Hopefully chewki returns and keeps improving as if he can hold his own rodgers and carrie have had thier moments and maybe brown or hayden finally will show something.time will tell if allen is mad or a genius but history isnt on his side
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Posted: 08/21/2014 5:40 PM

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